Haven't found anywhere worse than Bray although Pats were a clear second up to a couple of years ago. Never noticed anything in Drogheda or Sligo.
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Exactly. Out of all the grounds I've visited the most unpleasant experience with the opposing team's fans always stands out as Bray on every occasion. Skangers, knackers, cretins, call them as you will but there's a distinctly larger crowd of irritating little creatures at the Carlisle.
Worst for me is Athlone Town, by a mile. Then probably Bray, then Galway.
Can't remember how many times our coach has been bricked up in Drogheda :rolleyes:
At the Brandywell we used to allow under 14's in for free when accompanied with an adult. We cant know due to season ticket holders. Our problem is our ground. When its re-developed, we should have a family stand where a family and children should be allocated with a shope there for refreshments.
As a parent, I have to agree that bringing your kid to eLeague games can be on the expensive side. Especially if they are young as you have to take them into the seated areas as they get tired quite quickly if they have to stand.
On the topic of Bray and Bohs, I normally bring my young lad but made a point not to on Friday night as I had a good idea what it would be like.
Shels fans at their usual antics before, during and after the game in Ballybofey on Friday night. Hope they enjoyed their 'ruck' when they finally got one.
The locals don't usually show the same restraint as Harps fans so hopefully they will have learned their lesson.
Normally who we would be playing is what my decision to bring my son is based on. Any other parents like that or are you happy enough with the security arrangements at grounds? Our own, incidently is a joke at present.
You see you dont have to call them 'knackers' as this word has many conotations which arent really suitable. It can be perceived as upper class snobbery, all you hve to do is call them cheeky little ****s that need a proper slap to cop the fuk on. Believe me i know, bray is full of them, the pre puberty green army.
At the end of the day the KIDS are the main people you need to please...
I'll explain why...
Pleasing the adults you get 1 lot of gate money.. and if the parent takes a child in you are not certain of the parent being happy with a nagging kid or unhappy child...
Provide good entertainment and get the child wrapped up by the club you get the child FORCING the parent to take them to the game.. Yes do you not get the gate money from letting the U-12 into the game BUT you do get the extra sales based on food, souvies and so forth..
ALSO you get them as a fan for many years... and then you get them as hooked when they have a family..
The parents are happy with seeing good football.. yes the kids are the same but the attension span is never as long as the adults...
Its simple maths which some clubs do not understand.. not just in Ireland.. but the world...
What are you on about?! How is it "upper class snobbery" to expect to go somewhere and not have your flag ****ed on/spat on?!
I'm aware of what the term "knackers" means, and I find it quite suitable, thank you. If you want to start adding in extra "connotation", that's your own look out.
Anyways, back on topic - Tazskool is right, obviously.
Knackers is to good a term for them.
You mean suburban scumbags?
But I think we're being a bit harsh here. Kids left unsupervised will act the maggot like that. The problem is that the Wanderers are being used as a babysitting service on Friday nights and the stewards aren't interested in keeping the kids under control.
Never noticed it in Waterford to be honest and I sit over near the away fans block in the stand.
On a separate note, thought there was a good crowd in Inchicore on Friday night - 20 yoyo very steep considering we still had to stand to see anything though. How much of the crowd was down to the Kerr effect and how long will it last?
I'd say a fair bit was down to all the Kerr/Kelleher publicity plus the club were promoting it all week. Loads of flyers sent out to surrounding areas (Clondalkin, Tallaght, Palmerstown, Crumlin etc) offering a deal for that game and the next two @ €45 (and the aforementioned family deals). I'd say it doesn't hurt to have beaten Cork 3-1 live on TV the monday beforehand either. As ever with these things, the marketing/PR can only get people to go to one or two games but a winning side (playing attractive football it has to be said) may get them coming back regularly. I have to say I thought the crowd was a good deal north of the 1,800+ official figure