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09/12/2006, 12:29 PM
gael353

I think the targetting of Thomas Davis sponsors and the GAA as a whole is the way to go. Just like the "JOHN 3:16" signs which can be seen on tv, similar signs (clever and witty) need to be made up and gotten onto tv. Tg4 are doing club matches all over the country week in week out and this could be a start but the leagues are also starting in January so while your doing nothing waiting for our season to start we could stay out of hibernation and do something proactive yet peaceful. Attend games in your LOI jerseys, or if holding a banner, wear your county colours thus showing support for the code but not for Thomas Davis/Sponsor etc.

On another point i see as well as the �178 million the GAA recieved in public monies for Croke Park they were also given �3 million of public monies for the instillation of floodlights. I think they have had enough, dont you? :ball: :ball:
09/12/2006, 12:37 PM
BohDiddley

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Originally Posted by gael353

On another point i see as well as the €178 million the GAA recieved in public monies for Croke Park they were also given €3 million of public monies for the instillation of floodlights. I think they have had enough, dont you? :ball: :ball:

This is the part where someone inevitably comes in and says that the GAA deserves its success because of its administrative and fund-raising genius.
09/12/2006, 1:32 PM
Mr A

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Originally Posted by BohDiddley

This is the part where someone inevitably comes in and says that the GAA deserves its success because of its administrative and fund-raising genius.

The GAA deserves its success because of its administrative and fund-raising genius.
09/12/2006, 7:29 PM
BohsFans

Best of luck to the GAA!

That stand/pitch should be for the whole Tallaght community and therefore cater for a range of sports, not just for the Shamrocks.

Amen.
09/12/2006, 11:19 PM
BohsFans

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Originally Posted by Hooperatzi

forever in our shadow

A statement that is wrong on so many levels!

and the sad thing is YOU know it too!
10/12/2006, 11:39 AM
pete

I think the GAA are getting nervous that may not be able to fill their shiney new stadium for their own sports in the future. The extra games in the Championship have been a boost over the last numbers of years with some teams playing in Croke Park for first time in decades. Now that the novelty has worn out attendances are not as good & only get event junkies for the summer games.

The eL may not be much threat to the GAA but international football & rugby as well as the hype surrounding provincial rugby must be affecting them in the heartlands.
10/12/2006, 11:41 AM
BohDiddley

Here's a little more of the reality of the bigotry towards the poor, persecuted GAA.
10/12/2006, 3:45 PM
khoop

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Originally Posted by A-Mayo-Sheep

Lads ye love the word bigot here i noticed

"Bigot" is actually a fairly harmless description. More fitting descriptions would probably be banned from this forum.
10/12/2006, 3:56 PM
BohDiddley

GAA keep building � but the fans won�t be coming (S. Times)

A good exposition the GAA mindset when it comes to stadia. It seems they have no need for any more, and their current programme essentially is about bigging themselves up.
10/12/2006, 4:08 PM
BohDiddley

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Originally Posted by Rorymon

Complaining about a 12 million euro grant to build a 50,000 seater stadium is pitiful, the stadium will be at full capacity during an Ulster Final. No Eircom League club can even dream of recieving that sort of grant for a stadium as it would be uneconomical

You need to stop bleating about the b-word, and try grappling with some facts and the arguments around them. You might start with the post immediately above yours, which addresses the very point about the economic sense, or lack of it, of building more stadia for the GAA.
This thread is about what the GAA is attempting to do to football, a game struggling for its very survival in this country, and the blatantly unapologetic hostility that entails. I suggest that, if you want everyone to be nice, you start with them. Very few people who oppose the massive imbalance of subvention of GAA in general, and the Thomas Davis outrage in particular, are interested in fostering hostility between codes for its own sake.
As for those horrible expressions you refer to, if all the GAA ever did was dream up not-nice words to characterise football, that would represent a century's or so progress.
10/12/2006, 4:49 PM
pete

If Thomas Davis get away with this in Tallaght then other clubs could be next.

eL people do not not generally complain about GAA funding such as Croke Park as long the eL & FAI get their fair share too.

As soon as eL clubs get a few quid from the government the GAA are the ones who criticising...

:rolleyes:
10/12/2006, 5:11 PM
BohDiddley

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Originally Posted by Rorymon

Where is the economic sense in drogheda building a 10,000 seater stadium when, according to this site, their average attendance last year was 1751?

Here, as it happens.
They recognise that gates cover only 20% of costs, so they are integrating other leisure and commercial facilities, the better to support the game. And fair dues to them.
I don't think they'll be expecting 12 big ones from John O'Donoghue as of right though, do you?
10/12/2006, 5:29 PM
GavinZac

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Originally Posted by Rorymon

Ok, you've got me there, and fair dues to them! But as regards to Flancare Park what about that?

Well I'd expect Drogheda to gain a fair amount in grants from the minister due to the leisure and commercial facilities. The Drogheda board will get a grant from the Government, how much of the stadium will be funded by the F.A.I? Little I'd say, but maybe you can prove me wrong! Where-as, the 12 million will not build the stadium in Monaghan, the rest will come fron the G.A.A!

the rest will come from property developers, happy to pay for land the GAA was given.
10/12/2006, 6:09 PM
GavinZac

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Originally Posted by Rorymon

Where is this coming from? The stadium in Monaghan is not being sold, its being redeveloped.
From the Monaghan County Chairman, "We would hope that the government would come up with funding in the region of �12 million, and that the bulk of the remaining outlay would be provided by grants from the GAA and Ulster Council"

thought you were talking about a different one, apologies.
10/12/2006, 6:26 PM
khoop

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Originally Posted by Rorymon

Provide a link please, because nobody else has

From an E-mail sent in September 2005 by David Kennedy of Thomas Davis to Dublin County Board secretary John Costello - and seen by the Irish Independent:

"I'm confident that in any bout with Rovers that the GAA will be the last man standing"
10/12/2006, 6:37 PM
khoop

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Originally Posted by Rorymon

Complaining about a 12 million euro grant to build a 50,000 seater stadium is pitiful, the stadium will be at full capacity during an Ulster Final!

Whoopee!!! Full once a year!!! What a fantastic use of government funds!!! And what's the new stadium on the Maze Prison site supposed to be for??? It will be GAA compatible - so what will that be used for???

Building stadiums such as the new one in Monaghan isn't about filling a need - it's about the GAA using government funds to sponsor their hate-filled crusade to crush "foreign" sports in Ireland. Grabbing the lion's share of the funding means that the "foreign" sports don't get it.
10/12/2006, 6:46 PM
CollegeTillIDie

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Originally Posted by BohDiddley

I've been doing that for donkey's years. They haven't noticed. :(

Well there were a lot of Rovers fans who used to also support the Dubs perhaps if a bloc of Rovers fans, Pat's Fans, UCD Fans, Shels fans and your own Bohs fans were to do it , they might take notice.
10/12/2006, 6:51 PM
khoop

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Originally Posted by CollegeTillIDie

Well there were a lot of Rovers fans who used to also support the Dubs

Not any more. And as long as this farce continues, many Rovers fans won't be going to soccer matches in Croke Park either.
10/12/2006, 7:22 PM
CollegeTillIDie

khoop

I won't be going to soccer matches in Croke Park either, until Thomas Davis back off and leave the Hoops alone. And I don't even support Shamrock Rovers. However if Shamrock Rovers can do with my moral support at a time like this, then they will have it, because an attack on ANY EL club by the GAA is an attack on us all.

Tallaght Stadium should be for Shamrock Rovers and for soccer i.e. REAL football. If the Hoops decide to allow some other soccer team to share the facility then so much the better for the bank balance.
10/12/2006, 7:39 PM
BohDiddley

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Originally Posted by khoop

From an E-mail sent in September 2005 by David Kennedy of Thomas Davis to Dublin County Board secretary John Costello - and seen by the Irish Independent:

"I'm confident that in any bout with Rovers that the GAA will be the last man standing"

Link? Date? That quote should be up in lights.

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