Thats the minimum demand that unites the whole campaign but even the official campaign literature in a vague way argues for natural resourses to stay in state hands.Quote:
Originally Posted by pete
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Thats the minimum demand that unites the whole campaign but even the official campaign literature in a vague way argues for natural resourses to stay in state hands.Quote:
Originally Posted by pete
Yeah, they want it treated to international standards - i.e. at sea not on land, due to the risks (which I'm sure have been covered). However, the decision to let shell build the terminal on land must be taken in the context and political climate that allowed them get those very rights for a song in the first place. Shady deal giving them the rights with no benefit to us, shady deal giving them the terminal on land with the safety implications for our citizens, shady deals that can mobilise 170 cops on overtime to clear a legitmate protest....Quote:
Originally Posted by pete
When World War III comes we will be glad we have an internal source of energy. :p
That brings me to Nuclear Power but need new thread for that...
Go for itQuote:
Originally Posted by pete
It's something I'm pretty strongly in favour of without having too many facts so I wouldn't mind hearing peoples views :)
interesting new development:
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€750k so far, so that a multi-billion euro company can avoid legitimate protests? How far would that have gone on various lawless estate's around the country?
From http://www.rte.ie/news/2006/1012/corrib.html?rss
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In another development, it has emerged that the cost of policing demonstrations at the Corrib gas terminal site has reached €750,000.
The figure was provided by the Department of Justice in reply to a written Dáil question by the Independent TD, Dr Jerry Cowley, who said that Shell should bear the cost
Gas explosion
Substitute sea with sinking bogland and tugboat with tractor...
good to see that its not only the people of Rossport that are carrying the flag on this issue, as i was driving home yesterday there was a protest at a Shell garage in kilmac ( wicklow )
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Originally Posted by BohsPartisan
The Shell to Sea protestors want the terminal off the coast so surely this proves more dangerous that way?Quote:
off the coast of Louisiana.
Lets say your place of work decided to build an extension to its building which it had planning permission for & a group of people were protesting by blocking the entry gate. What would you do? Would you pass the picket? What if your business could not pay you when not in the work place?
We take risks in our daily lives, if we did nothing risky the human race would still be travelling in horse in carts.
No it just shows these types of pipe can explode. Better it happens at sea than in a populated area where the chances of anything colliding with it are increased many times over. The pipelines that Shell used as an example of land based pipelines are not in populated areas I.E. there out the back of beyond in the desert, so they're not comparing like with like.
Very far indeed :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by Macy
There not legitimate protests though, they're stopping people from going about their work
I wonder would it be cheaper to lock these people up??
Also, now there's talk of the krustys coming to town, disgrace that our government is so powerless to deal with subversives like these Rossport protestors. I wonder does it have anything to do with the fact that they appear (in the main, don't want to generalise here ;)) to be oh so middle class
So you believe the lies being told by the venomous sunday rags? Remember who the people are who own these papers. Don't be so naive.
Check this:
Coverage of the coverage
You should read Noam Chomsky and Ed Herman's "Manufacturing Consent"
Coming as I do from Southill in Limerick I won't even bother going over my distaste for the mainstream media in this country....... When you read stuff about your own area that you know for a fact is lies it makes you question just how much of the rest of it is true...........Quote:
Originally Posted by BohsPartisan
Seriously though any constituents of Tony Gregory or Joe Higgins on here?
Personally, I'd be pretty miffed at them attending rallys in support of county Mayo ranchers when I'm sure there's pressing issues that need attending in their own constituencies.
The Socialist Party's willingness to become so deeply involved in this quagmire has also baffled me. If they think they'll be well thanked by a rural Mayo electorate come polling day they could be in for a nasty shock
I've said here already how I feel about the locating of the refinery and it's piping in or around Rossport.
I would however like to see a complete and unequivocal condemnation issued by Shell To Sea of ANY intimidation of ANY individual connected with the Rossport situation -notwithstanding their right to legitmate protest.
It would be very helpful, not least to themselves, if they cast as broad a net as possible with such condemnation and appealed to anyone engaged in such activity to cease and desist.
Which is what seperates us from the rest. We won't even have a candidate over there. We do not just get involved in campaigns for electoral gain.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lim till i die
Gardai are investigating a death threat issued against Natural Resources Minister Noel Dempsey.
The threat is believed to have been made in a telephone call to Mr Dempsey's office yesterday from a man claiming to support the Shell to Sea campaign.
The call came shortly after the minister criticised the group for its blockade of the gas terminal being built by Shell in Bellanaboy, Co Mayo.
Shell to Sea has distanced itself from the incident, which it has described as "utterly deplorable".
Asked about the matter in Dublin this morning, Mr Dempsey said he was worried about the threat, but would not be changing his support for the Corrib gas project.
Yet more "news" from un-named "sources".
sorry that was from http://www.unison.ie/breakingnews/in...?ca=9&si=99973
Sounds more like another attempt to hide behind a politicians family, a la Bertie. Very brave these FF politicians. Convenient foil to the story about Shell bribing people to support the project...
http://www.unison.ie/irish_independe...issue_id=14770Quote:
A FORMER army officer yesterday claimed Shell offered him €15,000 in return for his support for the construction of the controversial Corrib Gas pipeline and terminal.
Ciaran O Murchu, who heads up the Colaiste Uisce Adventure Centre in Elly Bay, said he had been assured by Shell company officials that nobody would know the money had come from Shell if he agreed to take it. Mr O Murchu turned down the offer.
I mean these articles never have any real sources. They always use phrases like "it is believed" without saying who "it is believed" by.Quote:
Originally Posted by manofthemoment