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Originally Posted by Macy
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Now you're talkingQuote:
Originally Posted by Macy
What I'm saying is - if only the first series of Dublin City matches are taking into account, then why should the should the clubs who had to play DC away in the first series be penalised?
It is arguable that if both Drogheda and Derry had played their first DC games at home they could have achieved better results - as shown by the subsequent home matches in the second series.
Therefore rightly or wrongly, there will be arguments on both sides over what action the League should take. As I said, its a mess.
And yes, if Derry had won their first match, and Cork had lost - I'd probably be looking for the first round results to stand?!? :-)
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Originally Posted by Peadar
I think I'm leaning towards the expunging of points scenario. I know it doesn't favour Cork City but it seems right. I don't like the fact that players get goals and appearances stricken from the record yet suspensions still stand, but from a fairness point of view, I think the original decision was the fairest one.Quote:
Originally Posted by pete
In my local league a team dropped out. We had drawn with them twice but because of cancellation of fixtures earlier in the season some teams hadn't played them yet. We were going for promotion, but when the team in question left, all the teams around us were awarded 6 points and we lost out. If their results were made null and void we probably would have been promoted. Seemed unfair to us at the time.
On the other hand Cork City would gain from a similar scenario in this league, so I don't know. It's one big mess.
Well I don't favour UCD getting a 3-0 walkover for a game that will never be played.Quote:
Originally Posted by pete
It doesn't affect Pats (or me) one way or the other.
Certainly not. Why should they?Quote:
Originally Posted by pete
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Originally Posted by Macy
does that include when the longford players wear them after and before a match?:D
"does that include when the longford players wear them after and before a match?"
is this a case of not knowing whether they are coming or going?
If we could go back to the day Dublin City folded and left the league I would agree to the 1-0 win for everyone situation in the remaining fixtures.
My theory being that you either take away the points and punish the teams that have played and won or you award the 1-0 wins and punish the teams who have played and lost.
Its 50/50 on who you want to see lose out.
1 The teams who won
2 The teams who lost
Id agree with Dodge and go for walkovers until the end of the season.
Because the FAI jumped in and made a decision I'm kind of swaying the way of just shutting up and keeping things the way they are but maybe as a matter of principle it has to be challenged. Its unthinkable that the FAI just came up with a decision there and then and released it the same night of Dublin folding.
What should of happened is all 21 EL clubs got together to debate the issue and came up with a ruling that would be put in place for the next situation.
What the FAI did was wrong but it wasn’t so wrong that Id like to see Judge Judy get involved.
Longford and Shels challenged the decision to expunge the points, I agree with them doing that but I also agree that if they get told that’s the way it is going to be that they leave it there and accept it as another FAI mess.
turns out the FAI sent the letter informing shields of his suspension to the wrong address.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
i believe he wasnt on the list of suspensions from the FAI either.
neither himself, his old or new club were aware of the suspension and the fai didnt mention it on registration. the onus is on the league to inform clubs and players, not the clubs to ask every week who they can play
and besides, its just a story in the press at the moment.
Well Derry now in the clear, O'Flynns extra suspension only applies to St. Pats and Cork http://irishfootballonline.com/news_...hp?newsid=5145
Easily believe that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roverstillidie
Which makes me hate this league...
It beggars belief!,and we're letting these run our league from next season,God help us:eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Roverstillidie
Was the letter sent directly to the player or via Rovers? Surely the league at least knows the addresses of its clubs?
No.Quote:
Originally Posted by pete
Yes...Quote:
Originally Posted by pete
See my post here....
http://foot.ie/showthread.php?p=502136#post502136
Not easy with Rovers, though...Quote:
Originally Posted by Galway Harps
It was Sean Hargan apparently. He was suppose to be suspended for the Bohs game but played. Derry say they didn't receive notification until the following week and as a result didn't play him against Bray.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazzy
No I want whatever hurts Shels the most. Either way it doesn't make a big difference to us.
Irish Times says they will lose six points for playing him knowing he was suspended, and three if it's found that they didn't know.Quote:
Originally Posted by charliesboots
But do we have any redress on this match, and if not why not?
No. We were deducted 3 points for playing Jimmy Fullam while suspended v Athlone a couple of seasons ago. We won the game, Athlone got nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by BohDiddley
Don't know why not, but I think the rule book is pretty clear on this one at least.Quote:
and if not why not?