Ireland v Chile, 24/05/06

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23/05/2006, 1:30 PM
Kingdom

Bit of a head scratcher the team Staunton selected. Good idea picking Kelly and Kilbane as full-backs, certainly in the case of Kilbane as the left back area is a bit of a problem.
But picking Gary Breen, and Steve Finnan as a right-winger are stupid choices. I understand him maintaining the stance on Kav/JOS. He knows what Kavanagh can do. He doesn't know what Sheasy(!) can do yet. Lets continue with it for this game and if its a disaster then so what.

If, as it would seem, that he sticks with 4-3-3 and Finnan is at left back, then you'd have to believe that he's going to restore Carr(van) to right full. Which will p*ss many people off no end. And you've have to feel for Kav because he's basically being told "sorry mate, I've 3 central midfield positions but I'm not playing you".

But still if it makes sense to play the best right full in the Premiership at right wing or left back go ahead Staunton.
23/05/2006, 1:33 PM
Roo69

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Originally Posted by Kingdom

But still if it makes sense to play the best right full in the Premiership at right wing or left back go ahead Staunton.

Finnan is the best right back in the Premiership ? seriously though :D
23/05/2006, 1:34 PM
Kingdom

Name one better. And none of this chimbonda sh!t-talk.
23/05/2006, 1:41 PM
Stuttgart88

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Originally Posted by Roo69

Finnan is the best right back in the Premiership ? seriously though :D

I had an e-mail conversation with Richard Williams of the Guardian two weeks ago & he agrees that Finnan is quality. A Liverpool regular at work here who absolutely loves putting me and anything to do with Irish football down, says Finnan is the best in the PL and that Chimbomba's selection was astonishing.
23/05/2006, 1:42 PM
colster

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Originally Posted by Kingdom

Bit of a head scratcher the team Staunton selected. Good idea picking Kelly and Kilbane as full-backs, certainly in the case of Kilbane as the left back area is a bit of a problem.

Kilbane may play CM and Kelly as LB. Kelly has played a few times there for Spurs.

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Originally Posted by Kingdom

But picking Gary Breen, and Steve Finnan as a right-winger are stupid choices. I understand him maintaining the stance on Kav/JOS. He knows what Kavanagh can do. He doesn't know what Sheasy(!) can do yet. Lets continue with it for this game and if its a disaster then so what.

Breen, Dunne and O'Shea are the only fit CBs in the squad. Finnan will probably play FB.

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Originally Posted by Kingdom

If, as it would seem, that he sticks with 4-3-3 and Finnan is at left back, then you'd have to believe that he's going to restore Carr(van) to right full. Which will p*ss many people off no end.

Finnan could do well at LB. Irwin never had a problem switching between the 2.

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Originally Posted by Kingdom

And you've have to feel for Kav because he's basically being told "sorry mate, I've 3 central midfield positions but I'm not playing you".

I don't think Kavanagh is up to it. I think O'Shea is a lot more mobile and has the potential to be a v. good DCM.
23/05/2006, 1:49 PM
Roo69

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Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

I had an e-mail conversation with Richard Williams of the Guardian two weeks ago & he agrees that Finnan is quality. A Liverpool regular at work here who absolutely loves putting me and anything to do with Irish football down, says Finnan is the best in the PL and that Chimbomba's selection was astonishing.

I'm not saying that Finnan is'nt a very good player but i don't think he's the best right back playing in the premiership, personally i would pick Gary Neville (even though i hate the little dope) ahead of him every time.
23/05/2006, 1:52 PM
Kingdom

I left something out of my initial post that relates to gary Breen. Seeing as this is a nothing friendly, and Staunton of all people knows what Breen has to offer (which in my opinion is nothing more than experience), then why wasn't Paddy McCarthy called up or the McShane lad. If they were injured then fair enough, my bad, but I don't believe that for a second.

Ps Colster we'll just have to disagree over O'Shea :D
23/05/2006, 1:54 PM
Stuttgart88

I think Stan had no choice but to pick Breen so I've no problem whatsoever with his inclusion. O'Brien & McCarthy are injured. And I think Colster's formation looks like it could be how they line up - good call that man. Makes sense on paper for a whole host of reasons. Would maybe like to see Andy Reid in Kilbane's position.
23/05/2006, 1:55 PM
Stuttgart88

Kingdom, McCarthy & McShane ARE both injured!
23/05/2006, 1:57 PM
colster

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Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

I think Stan had no choice but to pick Breen so I've no problem whatsoever with his inclusion. O'Brien & McCarthy are injured. And I think Colster's formation looks like it could be how they line up - good call that man. Makes sense on paper for a whole host of reasons. Would maybe like to see Andy Reid in Kilbane's position.

Andy Reid would be a good call. I wouldn't mind seeing McGeady in on the right of the 3 man forward line as well.
23/05/2006, 1:57 PM
oconghc2

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Originally Posted by Roo69

I'm not saying that Finnan is'nt a very good player but i don't think he's the best right back playing in the premiership, personally i would pick Gary Neville (even though i hate the little dope) ahead of him every time.

id tend to agree with you there - reckon finnan has the potential to be the best and reckon hes a close second to neville
23/05/2006, 2:01 PM
Stuttgart88

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Originally Posted by Roo69

Finnan is the best right back in the Premiership ? seriously though :D

In fairness Roo69, I'd also have interpreted this remark as thinking you didn't rate Finnan.

I think he & Neville are both very good full backs, and both are underrated because they're not flashy players. Check out a post by jimbob110 recently, on a Stephen Carr thread.
23/05/2006, 2:04 PM
Kingdom

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Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

Kingdom, McCarthy & McShane ARE both injured!

As i said, my bad so! Under the circumstances then Staunton you had no choice. You win this time Staunton you ginger dastard.

Altogether now.....

"We all dream of a team of Gary Breens...."
23/05/2006, 2:07 PM
drummerboy

Interesting to hear that there are a few stand and terrace tickets still available in Merrion square. Thats the first time that has happened in a while. Just wondering how good are Chile? Is it their best possible team and have they any players playing in Europe?
23/05/2006, 2:30 PM
KK77

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Originally Posted by Roo69

I'm not saying that Finnan is'nt a very good player but i don't think he's the best right back playing in the premiership, personally i would pick Gary Neville (even though i hate the little dope) ahead of him every time.

Dear Dear me:rolleyes:
23/05/2006, 2:49 PM
Kingdom

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Originally Posted by bwagner

kingdom your a joke calling staunton a ginger ba*tard. What kind of ANGLO CRAP is that you idiot....

It's actually you're a joke (as in you are a joke) unless of course you're (as in you are) referring to my poor sense of humour in which you really meant your joke, but then forgot to finish the sentence. Enlighten me. Either way I wasn't calling Staunton a Ba$tard. I don't know his parents situation so I've no reason to call him one. I called him a dastard. You may remember it from a Simpsons episode. I'm sorry that I didn't point that out. Either way cut out the insults you idiot. :D
23/05/2006, 3:04 PM
Drumcondra Red

I'd just like to share that JO'S is total sh�te...

Hopefully Gamble and J. Byrne get a decent run out!
23/05/2006, 3:09 PM
as_i_say

yeah i'd have doherty in the squad, by a nose.
23/05/2006, 3:15 PM
TheJamaicanP.M.

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Originally Posted by as_i_say

by a nose.

Doherty's nose or Andy O'Brien's nose.:D
23/05/2006, 3:33 PM
as_i_say

yes the nose mark 2. think the ginger pele has broken his less times!

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