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You could put any manager in the world in charge of the team and we wouldn't be competitive in terms of qualifying from this group. But that's not to offer any early excuses for Kenny who carries much of the blame for us finding ourselves in this position.
Ireland Euro 2024 qualifying fixtures
27/03 – Republic of Ireland v France
16/06 – Greece v Republic of Ireland
19/06 – Republic of Ireland v Gibraltar
07/09 – France v Republic of Ireland
10/09 – Republic of Ireland v Netherlands
13/10 – Republic of Ireland v Greece
16/10 – Gibraltar v Republic of Ireland
18/11 – Netherlands v Republic of Ireland
7 points required from those first 3 fixtures to have any hope. Realistically going on previous starts and performances we could have 1 point after 2, would that be enough to spell the end then?
This just isnt true, and I am not having a go at you, there's some really weird stuff peddled about that just doesn't seem to be questioned. We got 2 points from a possible 12. We were way off second and much closer to 4th. Mccarthy got 3 draws for example and the previous regimes had one or two scalps in qualifying.Quote:
Originally Posted by CSAD
We should be aiming to draw at home to France, beat Greece away and obviously beat Gibraltar. Greece are ranked lower than us currently which is saying something looking at our results.Quote:
Originally Posted by Real ale Madrid
In 3 of those 4 games we got battered. Serbia home and away. We were very lucky to only lose 3-2 away and also to draw at home. Portugal got late goals against us to win 2-1 but they could easily have won 4 or 5-1.Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
You are right in saying there are these myths that get peddled that have absolutely no basis in reality. Even in the most recent Nations league against more modest opponents, we only picked up 4 points out of 12.
France away is likely to be Lyon with the rugby world cup starting that weekend also with games on in Paris, St Etienne, Bordeaux, and Marseille. They might not want the football game on in Paris the day before the tournament kicks off.
It was more how we played rather than the result. It was a campaign of transition and we acquitted ourselves well in those games (Serbia for the first 60 in Dublin was shocking but we caught back well to get a point)Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
What I?m saying is if you look at the truly shocking performances they?ve all come against teams like Armenia, Azerbaijan, Luxembourg, teams thy park the bus against us whereas teams like Scotland, Ukraine etc we did well against.
It?s a decent schedule and a decent start as we have a free hit against France in the opening game after a WC, after seeing how Ireland acquitted themselves against Portugal x2 and Belgium (I know it wasn?t their best team but still a top nation) I do think Ireland could at least give France a rattle especially when you consider France have a tendency to play down to their oppositions level and consistently drop points when the probably shouldn?t.
Athens in June. What will it be, 30 degrees plus?
Worst case scenario tbh, in deep ****. Can't Eire get the E, GH, I, J
Welsh and Scottish FA tweeting they've been told to UEFA to disregard the fixtures sent out as they've found an issue and a new list will be sent out. Not sure if it's just certain groups and not every group.
Am I wrong in saying it?s the hardest group we?ve ever had?
The 2002 group was really tough but I don?t think Portugal were as good as France are now and the Dutch side is probably of similar level.
For reference, the bookies have France as the 2nd favourite to win the World Cup and Netherlands 7th favourite, which makes them the favourite and 4th favourite of sides who will be in the euro 24 qualification
Dutch aren?t as good now as they were then, they were like top 4 in the world or something like that back then.Quote:
Originally Posted by elatedscum
France would be better on paper but of course the French are just very inconsistent in qualifying, they are certain qualifiers but they are the sort of side that will draw against us Greece & Netherlands away and then win the home games and qualify in first regardless.
FAI reported it and have yet to amend it so that tells me this is the fixture list so maybe it?s just certain groups.Quote:
Originally Posted by JR89
It wasn't a campaign of transition, that's another myth. It only became that after we got effectively knocked out in game 2. Look at the teams he selected.Quote:
Originally Posted by CSAD
Imagine if the 5th was Slovakia.Quote:
Originally Posted by elatedscum
For me is time for Kenny to step down.
Yeah Welsh FA tweeting now their fixtures haven't been impacted.Quote:
Originally Posted by CSAD
1982. France, Belgium and Holland.Quote:
Originally Posted by elatedscum