Foreign born but were only ever going to play for Ireland

How do you know ? ~ Did they turn down offers to play for England ?

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Originally Posted by Olé Olé

Ogbene moved to Ireland when he was 8. I think living here and growing up here and being schooled here and playing football and gaelic football all adds up to a little more than exploitation of FIFA's eligibility rules. That's a fairly ridiculous assertion.

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Yeah grew up in Ireland and became, I am quite sure, full Irish citizen.

If he can't play for Ireland then nobody can!

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Originally Posted by Trequartista20

You seem to have missed my main point, which is that I don't think it matters all that much whether a player grew dreaming of playing for Ireland and whether we were his first choice, as long as he is committed and does his best on the pitch. I was simply using Ogbene as an offhand example.

I don't doubt Ogbene feels a genuine affinity for Ireland, but the point is that he was neither born in Ireland nor does he have any historical ties to the country. It is FIFA who ultimately decides on the eligibility of a player and whether he qualifies to play for Ireland, and these rules are often subject to revision and change. What school a player goes to and whether he's ever played gaelic football doesn't have a great deal of bearing on the matter. I don't think this is a 'ridiculous assertion'.

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He's an Irish citizen, FIFA have nothing to do with it.

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Originally Posted by brine3

He's an Irish citizen, FIFA have nothing to do with it.

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Correct!

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Originally Posted by seanfhear

How do you know ? ~ Did they turn down offers to play for England ?

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Hoddle made a big play to presuade Hughton to play for England.

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Originally Posted by seanfhear

How do you know ? ~ Did they turn down offers to play for England ?

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Hoddle made a big play to presuade Hughton to play for England.

yes as for good old Tony Galvin it is in archives that he was mocked several times for being irish with teammates from ENGLAND

Galvin.. there's a blast from the past. Great player on his day. He was also the intellectual in the squad at that time with a degree in Russian, I think.. at least that's what the match programme used to say :)

Yep - that great story that he was listening in on the tactical info from the USSR bench at Euro 88 and translating everything back for us

good old Tony Galvin was so good that Jack waited until late in 1990

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Originally Posted by Bielsa´s irish

good old Tony Galvin was so good that Jack waited until late in 1990

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This sentence confuses me

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Originally Posted by Fixer82

This sentence confuses me

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And the rest of Bielsa doesn’t ? ? ?

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Originally Posted by seanfhear

And the rest of Bielsa doesn?t ? ? ?

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Good point, well argued!

Tony Galvin did use his education after football ~ ~ He is now a, Quality Manager for the Learning and Skills Council, ( In London I presume )

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Originally Posted by Fixer82

This sentence confuses me

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WAITED for him for the WC 1990 , but he couldnt make it was recovering from a big injury , I think he was invited as a guest for the IRELAND national team in Italy, but i believe he rejected that invitation

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Originally Posted by Bielsa´s irish

WAITED for him for the WC 1990 , but he couldnt make it was recovering from a big injury , I think he was invited as a guest for the IRELAND national team in Italy, but i believe he rejected that invitation

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pretty sure that was Gary Waddock.

Galvin. Waddock was replaced by The late McLaughlin

Galvin didn't attend 1990 because of injuries. He was touch and go if i recall correctly. He may have been invited as a guest i suppose, just dont remember or hadnt read it since.

Waddock was definitely asked to stay with the squad as a guest when JC brought in Alan McLoughlin but turned it down.

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Originally Posted by SkStu

Galvin didn't attend 1990 because of injuries. He was touch and go if i recall correctly. He may have been invited as a guest i suppose, just dont remember or hadnt read it since.

Waddock was definitely asked to stay with the squad as a guest when JC brought in Alan McLoughlin but turned it down.

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Correct.

And apparently a lot of the squad weren?t happy at Waddock being replaced at the 11th hour.
McLoughlin felt the vibes.

I guess coming on against England and being involved in the goal probably helped his cause

Actually just watched it back and he had nothing to do with the goal. He did come on against the Brits though and I think did ok