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11/07/2005, 12:55 PM
EnDai

We played that game about 3 weeks ago, it was brough forward, and we got the 3 points from it! :p :D
11/07/2005, 1:24 PM
dcfcsteve

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Originally Posted by EnDai

We played that game about 3 weeks ago, it was brough forward, and we got the 3 points from it! :p :D

Apologies for my lack of intimate knowledge of the Shels fixture list..... :cool: :)

You're still only a few defeats away from looking unlikely to win the league though, which is why I'm convinced Setanta have been hanging round you like vultures, looking to capture another classic 'Olly goes Bananas' moment if and when it happens..... :p
12/07/2005, 1:12 AM
Slash/ED

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Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

Really ? So what happened to you in 1985 - the very first time that relegation was introduced into Irish football ? I'll admit that most of the PARENTS of your fans now probably weren't even born then, but surely falling at the first hurdle in Irish football should be a bad enough memory to see through any collective amnesia...?

Just out of curiousity, let's see which of the other big clubs in the league have to-date ever been relegated :

Cork..? No.
Derry...? No - though we did manage to end-up in a superb play-off once.
Bohs - came close, but no.
Rovers - no (though this season is looking a bit ominous).
St Pat ? - no.

Fancy that - seems like only Shels of the 'big' clubs in the league have ever been relegated. And at the very first time of asking as well ! Maybe Shels fans should have a better understanding of the word 'relegation'.... :eek: :D

He's a Rovers fan you clown.
12/07/2005, 2:56 AM
mypost

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Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

Really? So what happened to you in 1985

What happened in 1985? We won the league and cup double. Happy days. :)
12/07/2005, 1:04 PM
pineapple stu

The Drogheda forum says the Dundalk website says Dundalk v. Drogheda is the live Cup game at the end of next month.
12/07/2005, 1:09 PM
EnDai

August 26th apparently. Saw it somewhere last night, probably in this thread somewhere! Will be a cracking match! And in Oriel with the new pitch too! :)
12/07/2005, 4:42 PM
Slash/ED

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

The Drogheda forum says the Dundalk website says Dundalk v. Drogheda is the live Cup game at the end of next month.

I read that somewhere too, the game has even been moved for the TV so it's more than likely true. I'm suprised but pleasantly so, it's the one tie I really wanted to watch.
12/07/2005, 9:27 PM
pineapple stu

And we're playing Longford away the next day, so for once I'll actually get to watch! Don't think I've seen any game outside the Setanta Cup live this season (only chance was Rovers-Bohs on the opening day when we played on the Wednesday, but I was at that match).
27/07/2005, 5:48 AM
mypost

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Originally Posted by patsh

:confused:
The city of Dublin has a population of over a million and is much, much bigger in area than Cork, or did you not know that???:confused:

Time to get out that dusty atlas, ahem!!

Now, when you leave the very small city of Dublin, you can be in Meath, Kildare, Wicklow or beyond, in less than an hour, whereas when you leave Cork City heading North, you can still be in Co. Cork 90 minutes later!!

The Cork region is enormous compared to Dublin, so it's no surprise that a one-club city can have regular big crowds at it's home games, given the size of the place. Dublin is small in comparison, and has 4 clubs and 2 amateur ones all competing for support against each other, with the same amount of NL fan base as Cork City. That explains why Shels have a relatively poor fan base, and Cork has so much.
27/07/2005, 9:04 AM
pete

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Originally Posted by mypost

Time to get out that dusty atlas, ahem!!

To compare the county of Cork with Dublin you'd also have to include Wicklow, Kildare & Meath. Its like comparing 300k to 1,300,000.

The reason some Dublin clubs fail to attract fans is lack of community. I don't think your average dubliner identifies with any club in the City.
27/07/2005, 9:13 AM
sullanefc

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Originally Posted by EnDai

Will be a cracking match! And in Oriel with the new pitch too! :)

Did that synthetic pitch actually get built? I read an article in Ireland on Sunday (before the season started) that the club ran into financial trouble over the pitch.
27/07/2005, 9:43 AM
Cosmo

Sullanefc, http://drogs.irishfootie.net/viewtopic.php?t=3697
27/07/2005, 10:18 AM
sullanefc

Cheers Cosmo. I hope it works out for them.
27/07/2005, 12:15 PM
Slash/ED

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Originally Posted by pete

The reason some Dublin clubs fail to attract fans is lack of community. I don't think your average dubliner identifies with any club in the City.

that's exactly it. When your average Cork man with no interest in the EL sees Cork have done well he'll be happy, straight away he sees it's Cork City playing and straight away he feels that's his team, even if he'll never go out to support them there is already a connection made.

Your average dubliner sees St Pats, Shelbourne, Shamrock Rovers, UCD, CHF and Bohs and they mean nothing to him whatsoever. There's no connection made between him and the clubs and so there is a much much smaller chance he'll go out and support them at any stage. The only EL club with that sense of community that I can see is Pats.
27/07/2005, 1:36 PM
pete

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Originally Posted by Slash/ED

When your average Cork man with no interest in the EL sees Cork have done well he'll be happy, straight away he sees it's Cork City playing and straight away he feels that's his team, even if he'll never go out to support them there is already a connection made.

Its the exact same in Dublin. How many Shels fans will be at Tolka tonight? 3000? How many neutrals along for the big occasion?

Pointless debate but have to have Last Word ;)
27/07/2005, 1:47 PM
sullanefc

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Originally Posted by Slash/ED

that's exactly it. When your average Cork man with no interest in the EL sees Cork have done well he'll be happy, straight away he sees it's Cork City playing and straight away he feels that's his team, even if he'll never go out to support them there is already a connection made.

Your average dubliner sees St Pats, Shelbourne, Shamrock Rovers, UCD, CHF and Bohs and they mean nothing to him whatsoever. There's no connection made between him and the clubs and so there is a much much smaller chance he'll go out and support them at any stage. The only EL club with that sense of community that I can see is Pats.

I agree entirely. And I said the same thing on the "Phrase that Pays" thread. An advertising campaign should be put together to get the people of Dublin thinking about which club they support.

Many EL fans also watch the English PL. Why not have it the other way around.

There are many people in Dublin who follow soccer across the water. But they have no association with a club in Dublin. If they had to sit down and think about and eventually decided on a club then they would be more likely to come. A clever advertising campaign asking the question "What's your team?" with a catchy tune could achieve this.
27/07/2005, 1:47 PM
Slash/ED

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Originally Posted by pete

Its the exact same in Dublin. How many Shels fans will be at Tolka tonight? 3000? How many neutrals along for the big occasion?

Pointless debate but have to have Last Word ;)

Europe is the exception. Last year Cork got a sell out crowd of 7,400 for a big league match v Bohs, I don't think Dublin teams get near the same floating support as the public don't see the same instant connection with the team as a Cork man would instantly with Cork City, someone from Sligo with Sligo Rovers etc etc

As if I'd let anyone get in the last word :p

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