Shelbourne V Liverpool

[QUOTE=4tothefloor]But only people who know nothing about Liverpool (the city and it's people that is) would bring that up, because religion doesn't come into it over there. You're either red or blue, that's it.QUOTE]


that is what i always thought about football in liverpool. but strangely enough i was over there for paddys day this year and during the course of conversations with 3 different people, they all brought up the topic of religion and how everton were the "catholic" club of liverpool. The 2 Everton fans i was talking to seemed to be trying to impress me with this :mad: and I`m not quite sure why the Liverpool fan was going on about it :confused:

this kind of rubbish i expect if i`m in glasgow but was surprised at it in liverpool

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Originally Posted by Bald Student

Be carefull there Gerrit. You don't want to give people the impression that Belgium is just a made up country.

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:D

Wonder how up on their history people here are?!

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

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Wonder how up on their history people here are?!

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Didn't the Belgian King remark he is the only actual Belgian? :p

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Originally Posted by D2 Red

especially if playing them shams sh*tpool

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You mean, 'especially if playing the five time and current European Champions Liverpool'? :D

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Originally Posted by mypost

Horse manure!! :mad: :mad:

There's no religious connection to either club. Liverpool is a welcoming place to all religions and nationalities. That bile is made up by people who hate LFC. There is only one place in Britain, where there are sectarian hatreds between the two major clubs, and it's a city in Scotland that begins with G.

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Don't forget the one beginning with a B ;)

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Originally Posted by Bald Student

Be carefull there Gerrit. You don't want to give people the impression that Belgium is just a made up country.

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Well ehm, my Belgian friends here (few other expats at the company) will kill me for this, but honestly: it is. Two regions that wanted to break up with the Netherlands, formed their own country, imported a German lad and named him King, and then moved on to see the two regions fight with each other instead of the Dutch :D

Sorry for a bit of irony here, but yes, Belgium is quite artificial. And that I admit as a unionist. (unionist as in Belgian unionism, not related in any way to Northern Ireland)

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Originally Posted by Gerrit

Don't forget the one beginning with a B

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If the B stands for Belfast, I will forget it. Belfast is not in Britain, it's only in the United Kingdom. :o

The only team I don't want Liverpool to face in the CL qualifiers, is the long trek to Kazachstan to face Kairat Almaty. Travel nightmare if we draw them, together with a 6 HOUR time difference between here and there, not what you want in pre-season. Let Dinamo Tbilisi play them instead. ;)

TNS, Torshavn, or Sliema Wanderers will do.

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Originally Posted by Éanna

I have nothing against Shels fans tbh, there's too few of them to really hate anyway ;) Seriously though, my dislike/hatred of Shels is down to the individuals running/managing the club and a few of the players, not the fans. As for Waterford, Queenstown and Limerick? I dislike Waterford intensely, but TBH I'm not that bothered about them- we have bigger fish to fry. Cobh- usually go and see them when I can, and always like to see them do well, maybe it would be different if they were in the premier. And limerick- well I lived there, know a lot of their fans, and I have a soft spot for them- again, I guess it would be different if they were in the premier.

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Hating a club based purely on how they run themselves, is not enough to hate a club. I don't like the way several clubs are run, but that doesn't mean I hate them. If you "hate" a club, it's because they are a)local, b)successful, or c)a club that you hold a grudge against, e.g. over a game or trophy you lost to them. It appears that some of your fans base their hatred of Shels on how their club is run, whereas others hate them because they are successful, and are jealous of that success, which is wrong. If Shels are successful in Europe, and are rewarded financially as a result, that is to the detriment of ALL other NL clubs, not just Cork. Despite this, fans of other NL clubs will continue to wish Shels well in Europe, for the sake of the league.

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Originally Posted by Éanna

Exactly. I have nothing against Shels fans tbh, there's too few of them to really hate anyway ;) Seriously though, my dislike/hatred of Shels is down to the individuals running/managing the club

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I hope you dont mind the webmaster.....:)

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Originally Posted by Gerrit

Well ehm, my Belgian friends here (few other expats at the company) will kill me for this, but honestly: it is. Two regions that wanted to break up with the Netherlands, formed their own country, imported a German lad and named him King, and then moved on to see the two regions fight with each other instead of the Dutch :D

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You mustn't have sarcasm in Belgium! ;)

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Originally Posted by mypost

Hating a club based purely on how they run themselves, is not enough to hate a club. I don't like the way several clubs are run, but that doesn't mean I hate them. If you "hate" a club, it's because they are a)local, b)successful, or c)a club that you hold a grudge against, e.g. over a game or trophy you lost to them. It appears that some of your fans base their hatred of Shels on how their club is run, whereas others hate them because they are successful, and are jealous of that success, which is wrong. If Shels are successful in Europe, and are rewarded financially as a result, that is to the detriment of ALL other NL clubs, not just Cork. Despite this, fans of other NL clubs will continue to wish Shels well in Europe, for the sake of the league.

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Why do I hate them?
1. Ollie Byrne
2. The manager- first Keely, now Fenlon.
3. They robbed us in the setanta.
4. Their players pushing a ref around in the cross a few years ago.
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I'm not jealous of them, sure I'd like their succes, but I'd like Chelsea's money too, and I don't hate them

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Originally Posted by Éanna

4. Their players pushing a ref around in the cross a few years ago.

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In most cases I'd consider that a plus point. :D

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Originally Posted by mypost

Hating a club based purely on how they run themselves, is not enough to hate a club. I don't like the way several clubs are run, but that doesn't mean I hate them. If you "hate" a club, it's because they are a)local, b)successful, or c)a club that you hold a grudge against, e.g. over a game or trophy you lost to them.

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Hating or loving a club is based on emotions, emotions are feelings, feelings know no ratio and should not even be tried to explain.

If he hates Shels, fair enough. (though I'd have prefered to see it otherwise obviously)
Does he actually need a reason for it ? The feeling he has is reason enough, should not even try to analyse why he feels like that. When you have a crush on a woman, are you analysing why you like her ?! (if yes, explain, this could get interesting :D )