Today I'm ashamed to be Irish

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Originally Posted by Silvio

Shame on any one calling themselves Irish who ignore tyranny...

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I assume you mean 'all' tryanny - and in that case Irish fans should be getting a hostile welcome everywhere we travel thanks to the muderous IRA who are deemed representatives of the people of this country at times (although nothing could be further from the truth) by foreign people. I assume you would be happy to see Irish fans abused at regular international games?

Thankfully many Irish fans and other countries do not see football events as the only way of making political statements. We all have opinions on what's going on in Isreal and other places but my only concern was supporting the Irish Team on Saturday.

I do not see abusing fellow football fans becuase of their nationality as an effective method of solving the problems that exits in their country and with their goverment.

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Originally Posted by Silvio

THe UN never set up the West Bank and Gaza as prison camps, the UN never sanctioned the Israelis to go into these camps in helicopter gunships and blow men, women and children to smithereens, the UN never sanctioned the confiscation of Palestinian lands so that the Zionist occupiers could profit from their harvests, the UN never sanctioned the building of settler camps in Palestinian areas for people from Russia, America etc to take over as their own.

The list goes on. Educate yourself...

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Educate myself? And where did you get your education from? SF pamplets??

I served in the Leb. I'd say I know more about that region that you do.

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Originally Posted by Silvio

THe UN never set up the West Bank and Gaza as prison camps, the UN never sanctioned the Israelis to go into these camps in helicopter gunships and blow men, women and children to smithereens, the UN never sanctioned the confiscation of Palestinian lands so that the Zionist occupiers could profit from their harvests, the UN never sanctioned the building of settler camps in Palestinian areas for people from Russia, America etc to take over as their own.

The list goes on. Educate yourself...

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These are very firmly established facts. However, once you start mixing politics with sport, no one ends up being a winner. It's embarrassing that people choose to do so. The Israeli team was there for themselves and their country, not for political reasons.
Next you'll be chanting "You killed Jesus!!"
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Nazi salutes are obviously unacceptable, and much of the stuff that is outlined in this thread is also out of order. I didn't see anything or hear anything I've got to say...

However, wasn't there an outcry before when Ireland were criticised for the booing of people based on their (perceived) religion? People can't have it both ways.

While personally trying to draw a veil over this whole sickening episode, I think the political savvy of the majority of those who saw fit to wave colours other than our own at a home game is summed up by the following statement from the upper east:
Stadium Announcer : "Ladies & gentlemen, the National anthem of Israel"
Peanut-headed white shirt & tracksuit wearing skanger wrapped in palestinian flag: "F*ck off back to killing kids yez F*ckin B*stard Nazis."

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Originally Posted by Silvio

I don't need the boys in Parnell square to tell me whats going on in Zionist Occupied Palestine.
I have eyes of my own. ever wonder why UNIFIL were sent to South Lebanon in the first pace?

Ever hear of the SLA? The army funded by the Zionist regime to massacre Shia Muslims?

Pity you didn't study the history of the area while there... Thats assuming you were in the first place...

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Took you're time researching that. Of course I knew why I was there.

Let me guess, you support the Basque cause as well?

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Originally Posted by Silvio

A sporting event is sometimes the only oppertunity to express your horror of a regime.
We used it to the full and have no regrets.

Your last line is chidish at best...

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As opposed to your rants on here, ie. reducing this thread to a political rant , attacking an elected government and country.
(BTW knew it would get your attention :p )

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Originally Posted by Silvio

A sporting event is sometimes the only oppertunity to express your horror of a regime.

We used it to the full and have no regrets.

Your last line is chidish at best...

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You really are an idiot. I try my best to go along with the Foot.ie 'attack the post, not the poster' but this is too much. There was a few guys behind me holding up the Palestinian flags throughout the anthem. When the keeper was diving all over the place, one of them made reference to the keeper getting bombed in a pizza parlour. These were the idiots that were at the game and you went along with all that. F*ck this rubbish. This wasn't a proper protest, this was people there to hurl abuse at a bunch of guys who were playing a game of football. All the evidence that's come before you of ignorant abuse of Israeli fans before and after the game and you sit there like a robot churning out Palestinian press releases, "Zionist Occupied Palestine, Zionist Occupied Palestine..." You bleat on about moral courage as if you're some guardian of or warrior for justice whereas the rest of us know that's a load of balls. The Israeli team brought about the bad atmosphere in the ground but f*cking idiotic clowns like you with your Palestinian flags introduced politics into what was a sporting occasion. F*ck off with that sh!te.

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Originally Posted by Silvio

I don't need the boys in Parnell square to tell me whats going on in Zionist Occupied Palestine.
I have eyes of my own. ever wonder why UNIFIL were sent to South Lebanon in the first pace?

Ever hear of the SLA? The army funded by the Zionist regime to massacre Shia Muslims?

Pity you didn't study the history of the area while there... Thats assuming you were in the first place...

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Are you David Brent?

I am genuinely waiting for a reference to 'The Judean Peoples Front' to crop up here somewhere.

Can we bin this now?

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Originally Posted by Conor74

You talking about that 'leg crossing' scene in Fatal Attraction?

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Basic Instinct wasnt it.

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Originally Posted by Silvio

I have had a keen interest in the plight of the landless Palestinians for some years now.

You claim to know why UNIFIL were sent into South Leb. Care to inform us of the actions of the SLA and indeed Sharon's actions when a commander of Israeli forces in certain refugee camps...?

Or do you know the first thing about them...?

I'd say the latter judging by your posts...

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I am quite aware of what happened in Sabra/shatila.

I am just not as blinkered as you. Israel has a right to nationhood. As do the Palestinians.

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Originally Posted by Bondvillain

I am genuinely waiting for a reference to 'The Judean Peoples Front' to crop up here somewhere.

Can we bin this now?

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No!!! It was the Peoples Front of Judea!

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Originally Posted by stojkovic

Basic Instinct wasnt it.

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Stojkovic knows his hollywood soft porn!! :D

:)

you actually beat me to it! :p

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Originally Posted by Bondvillain

I am genuinely waiting for a reference to 'The Judean Peoples Front' to crop up here somewhere.

Can we bin this now?

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Its 'The Peoples Front Of Judea'............... SPLITTER.

Could'nt resist

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Originally Posted by Donal81

You really are an idiot. I try my best to go along with the Foot.ie 'attack the post, not the poster' but this is too much. There was a few guys behind me holding up the Palestinian flags throughout the anthem. When the keeper was diving all over the place, one of them made reference to the keeper getting bombed in a pizza parlour. These were the idiots that were at the game and you went along with all that. F*ck this rubbish. This wasn't a proper protest, this was people there to hurl abuse at a bunch of guys who were playing a game of football. All the evidence that's come before you of ignorant abuse of Israeli fans before and after the game and you sit there like a robot churning out Palestinian press releases, "Zionist Occupied Palestine, Zionist Occupied Palestine..." You bleat on about moral courage as if you're some guardian of or warrior for justice whereas the rest of us know that's a load of balls. The Israeli team brought about the bad atmosphere in the ground but f*cking idiotic clowns like you with your Palestinian flags introduced politics into what was a sporting occasion. F*ck off with that sh!te.

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You, sir, are the idiot.
You and many others on here are examples of what has happened to this country. Too much wealth and too much selfishness.
You and your likes on here, cringe and whinge because some people believe it is right to peacefully protest at a sporting occassion. I held a Palestinian flag up high throughout the Israeli National Anthem. It was a small gesture to a downtrodden people - something we, as a nation, should be able to relate to. This mantra that "its sport not politics" is utter rubbish. Sport and politics are always mixed together - and you well know it. National anthems are played, nationalism encouraged, songs sung. Was that "Night in November" when we played Bingham's boys a friendly apolitical kick around? No - it stank to high heaven with politics and bigotry. But you and your likes no doubt had blinkers on. Moscow Olympics ring any sporting political bells with you or were the blinkers on again then?

You moaning, whingeing, self-centred, selfish cretins on here are representative of what is wrong these days.

Politics and sport are seperate? Bull. Get real.

For me its 'Freedom for Palestine'. For you its 'look at their cheatin keeper".
I know which is more important to me.

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Originally Posted by rqumentative

You, sir, are the idiot.
You and many others on here are examples of what has happened to this country. Too much wealth and too much selfishness.
You and your likes on here, cringe and whinge because some people believe it is right to peacefully protest at a sporting occassion. I held a Palestinian flag up high throughout the Israeli National Anthem. It was a small gesture to a downtrodden people - something we, as a nation, should be able to relate to. This mantra that "its sport not politics" is utter rubbish. Sport and politics are always mixed together - and you well know it. National anthems are played, nationalism encouraged, songs sung. Was that "Night in November" when we played Bingham's boys a friendly apolitical kick around? No - it stank to high heaven with politics and bigotry. But you and your likes no doubt had blinkers on. Moscow Olympics ring any sporting political bells with you or were the blinkers on again then?

You moaning, whingeing, self-centred, selfish cretins on here are representative of what is wrong these days.

Politics and sport are seperate? Bull. Get real.

For me its 'Freedom for Palestine'. For you its 'look at their cheatin keeper".
I know which is more important to me.

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Congratulations Silvio, look who's in your corner! Good old rqumentative...Good luck to the pair of ye.

I trust I'll see you both on Sky News in Ramallah? I assume you're booking your flights to Jerusalem as we speak, if you're not already there?

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Originally Posted by rqumentative

You, sir, are the idiot.
You and many others on here are examples of what has happened to this country. Too much wealth and too much selfishness.
You and your likes on here, cringe and whinge because some people believe it is right to peacefully protest at a sporting occassion. I held a Palestinian flag up high throughout the Israeli National Anthem. It was a small gesture to a downtrodden people - something we, as a nation, should be able to relate to. This mantra that "its sport not politics" is utter rubbish. Sport and politics are always mixed together - and you well know it. National anthems are played, nationalism encouraged, songs sung. Was that "Night in November" when we played Bingham's boys a friendly apolitical kick around? No - it stank to high heaven with politics and bigotry. But you and your likes no doubt had blinkers on. Moscow Olympics ring any sporting political bells with you or were the blinkers on again then?

You moaning, whingeing, self-centred, selfish cretins on here are representative of what is wrong these days.

Politics and sport are seperate? Bull. Get real.

For me its 'Freedom for Palestine'. For you its 'look at their cheatin keeper".
I know which is more important to me.

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It was a frickin footy game. The national team blew it and that's all there is to it. It isn't to be then turned into a political football on here, IMO.
I am sure, like myself, outside of this game, most people following this will agree with your political viewpoint on Israel to an extent. But that doesn't make it right to vent your political vitriol here.

How about we start a fund up to pay for flights for Silvio and rqumentative to put their words into action in Palestine. :D

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Originally Posted by Conor74

If I pay you money will you stop this thread?

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LOL!!

You should be allowed to give rep. on this site.