Worst ever Ireland Player ?

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31/05/2005, 1:21 PM
Lionel Ritchie

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Originally Posted by stojkovic

Do you think that Gary Kelly fulfilled his potential for Ireland ?
I probably am being a bit harsh though.

Beyond his having retired early (29 I think) I don't think there's much more he could've done. What he hasn't done which Howard Wilkinson predicted he would do is finish out his playing days as a center half. I dunno maybe Wilko thought he'd bulk up more as he got older but either way it's not happened. If he had done then maybe he'd have had something to offer us for a couple of more years -but he's stayed with a Championship side and we've got younger legs available playing Premiership football in his prefered position
31/05/2005, 1:23 PM
Stuttgart88

With Finnan & Carr out, we could do with Gary Kelly this weekend.
31/05/2005, 1:39 PM
Bluebeard

Carsley will be my vote for one of the weakest players ever to play in the Champions League, should Everton find themselves in the group stages next year - definitely would be top of my 20 caps or more muck list.
31/05/2005, 2:58 PM
dynamo kerry

butlers debut v czech we attacked north terrace in the first half. I was in the east tce watching butler get bullied by the big tall czech lad while berger and nedved looked like they wished they were elsewhere.

butler wasn't awful but he wasn'gt up to it completely either. mahon was just out of his depth in a game where he should have shone at the time. mick never picked him again.

as for tommy coyne- the man's a legend. I'm sorry he didn't play for us more.
31/05/2005, 3:16 PM
stojkovic

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Originally Posted by dynamo kerry

as for tommy coyne- the man's a legend. I'm sorry he didn't play for us more.

Ive nothing against Tommy Coyne, I just never took to him as I did others.
Can you enlighten me as to his qualities in an Irish jersey and I may change my mind.
31/05/2005, 3:54 PM
The Legend

Chris Morris... worst player in soccer ever full stop!

Also, I would rank Staunton as crap despite all his caps...
31/05/2005, 3:58 PM
stojkovic

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Originally Posted by The Legend

Chris Morris... worst player in soccer ever full stop!

Remember he got caught 'playing away'. Gardai got involved and everything. Muppet.

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Originally Posted by The Legend

Also, I would rank Staunton as crap despite all his caps...

Poor Stan was never the same after Orlando.
31/05/2005, 4:21 PM
Fergie's Son

So Staunton's performance in WC 2002 wasn't worth noting :rolleyes:

I'll also have to defend Chris Morris here as well. Not the best fullback in the world but he was by no means the worst Irish player ever. He was an exceptionally tough tackler who rarely put a foot wrong. Not the best going forward but very stable in defense.

AS for Tommy Coyne, he came into a tough situation and performed admirably. Do remember that Quinn was a surprise ommission due to a horrific injury in what many consider the prime of his career.

Also, I'll defend McGoldrick all day for that game in Denmark alone.
31/05/2005, 4:32 PM
stojkovic

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Originally Posted by Fergie's Son

AS for Tommy Coyne, he came into a tough situation and performed admirably. Do remember that Quinn was a surprise ommission due to a horrific injury in what many consider the prime of his career.

Twas no surprise.
He done his cruciate and was out for nine months.
We had known this for months before USA94 hence the reason why Tommy Coyne was brought back as Aldo was getting on a bit.
31/05/2005, 4:44 PM
Fergie's Son

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Originally Posted by stojkovic

Twas no surprise.
He done his cruciate and was out for nine months.
We had known this for months before USA94 hence the reason why Tommy Coyne was brought back as Aldo was getting on a bit.

He only injured it in April though if memory serves. Coyne was never expected to start up until then. He did a great job regardless.
31/05/2005, 6:33 PM
Troy.McClure

Ive seen Dominic Foley play for Bohs a few times since he's joined them and each and every time I thank God for us not buying him! He's one of the worst players Ive seen in the eL, not to mind international level!
31/05/2005, 9:44 PM
Poorly McGrorry

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Originally Posted by Fergie's Son

Also, I'll defend McGoldrick all day for that game in Denmark alone.

It's also worth noting that McGoldrick scored in that ill-fated "friendly" match back in Feb 1995. Had it finished 1-0 I'm sure his International career would be a bit more fondly remembered! :D
31/05/2005, 9:50 PM
Slash/ED

Wasn't that David Kelly?
31/05/2005, 9:59 PM
CollegeTillIDie

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Originally Posted by The Legend

Chris Morris... worst player in soccer ever full stop!

Also, I would rank Staunton as crap despite all his caps...

Was kept out of the Dundalk team by the legendary Martin Lawlor :)
31/05/2005, 10:01 PM
dr_peepee

If Tommy Coyne had have been a lttle bitfaster he could've been a huge asset to us...
31/05/2005, 10:13 PM
Poorly McGrorry

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Originally Posted by Slash/ED

Wasn't that David Kelly?

Apologies for the bad memory - I think McGoldrick provided the cross for Kelly's goal. I do recall that he did play a part for the goal and I was shocked at the time that he could deliver such a cross!

Edit - thanks for the confirmation SBM!
31/05/2005, 10:29 PM
Colbert Report

Quinn was lost on the first of December 1993, about two weeks after the 1-1 draw with Northern Ireland, when Alan McGloughlin came on as a sub and scored. Quinn had started every qualifier for us leading up to USA 1994 and the loss of him was what did us in from the start. Tommy Coyne was a replacement and did well with what he had, he was never good enough to play for us internationally in my opinion. Keep in mind our other strikers at the time were John Aldridge and Tony Cascarino, who were both getting up there and had lost a step.

Alan Kernaghan gets my vote, he was crap crap crap.
31/05/2005, 11:08 PM
Fergie's Son

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Originally Posted by smallbrownman

Agreed......pretty much think we're spot on with this one.

Actually it was John Sheridan who provided the vital through ball for Kelly to score. No cross was invovled. McGoldrick did, however, have a fine Irish career.
01/06/2005, 9:25 AM
stojkovic

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Originally Posted by Fergie's Son

Actually it was John Sheridan who provided the vital through ball for Kelly to score. No cross was invovled. McGoldrick did, however, have a fine Irish career.

You are correct Fergie. I cant believe how poeple get these things so very very wrong. The media is full of it misquoting facts.

I recall Terry Phelan doing very well done the left, with abit of interchange with someone (Townsend?) it was passed inside and John Sheridan gave a through ball that Kaka would be proud of and David Kelly slotted it under the keeper.

Fact is, just checked the FAI website, McGoldrick NEVER scored for Ireland.

Just the facts ma'am, just the facts.
01/06/2005, 11:05 AM
Donal81

Off on a bit of a tangent, I watched Charlton's Years for the first time in ages last night. I'm especially interested in the 1996 qualifying campaign, Charlton's last, since reading Niall Quinn's biography. That was by far the easiest group that we've ever had ever since I've been watching football (circa 1988) and we blew it most likely through too much alcohol and not enough players giving a sh!t. I suppose, the end of an era is rarely pretty.

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