Bray statement

Dundalk couldn't have known he was going to pull the plug so tbf you couldn't blame the administration in dundalk. I don't think they would have had much compeitit ion for his signature no other loi club could afford 40k and if there was any interest from the UK 40k wouldn't have put a Uk team off if they wanTed him last week. But as they couldn't have known what was going to happen the fact that they could probably have got him for less is irrelevant. If they hadn't paid the 40k bray would have held on for a couple of weeks while looking to move him.

The council should wait until they go into liquidation then take the lease back.
Build a new stadium 6000 seats with training facilities bar etc just outside the town with a direct link financed by selling Carlisle ground. Let the council make the money instead of a developer and put a first class facility in place for bray nua.

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Originally Posted by sbgawa

The council should wait until they go into liquidation then take the lease back.
Build a new stadium 6000 seats with training facilities bar etc just outside the town with a direct link financed by selling Carlisle ground. Let the council make the money instead of a developer and put a first class facility in place for bray nua.

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Moving a club from their home place is usually a complete disaster. Rovers fans of all people should know that.

I'm talking a couple of miles and have a set up that gives the club a fighting chance not 10 or 20 miles away. Spurs west ham type moves not mk dons. Completly get the base support issue

If you have 1500 at a game what percentage of those actually pay into the game ?. I'm sure all other clubs are the same boat with free complimentary tickets.
The Shamrock Rovers attendance v. actual ticket sales/Season tickets shows a lot of free admission. I think St. Joseph's Boys schoolboys all get free Bray season tickets. Rovers is Bray's biggest home game of the season so more people will go to that game and use their free tickets to games against lesser teams.

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Originally Posted by sbgawa

I'm talking a couple of miles and have a set up that gives the club a fighting chance not 10 or 20 miles away. Spurs west ham type moves not mk dons. Completly get the base support issue

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The field of dreams theory of "build it and they will come" rarely works, unless you already have built up a solid rapport with a large number of fans who'd be willing to move. Bray don't have that. They'd be better off losing their current owner, staying in their traditional home and re-establishing ties with local clubs, schools businesses and trying to build organically over a period of 5-10 yrs. If that works then maybe consider a move.
If you've barely any fans to begin with, how many would you have if you moved Wanderers out the the edge of town?

Don't think continuation of the status quo is a viable option. Would be interesting to see what bray supporters would say if they were offered a new stadium with a bar training ground etc within reasonable distance. Ask the fans now theres a mad idea ��

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Originally Posted by sbgawa

I'm talking a couple of miles and have a set up that gives the club a fighting chance not 10 or 20 miles away. Spurs west ham type moves not mk dons. Completly get the base support issue

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Limerick moved from the Markets Field only 5km away to Hogan Park and look what happened.

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Originally Posted by sbgawa

I'm talking a couple of miles and have a set up that gives the club a fighting chance not 10 or 20 miles away. Spurs west ham type moves not mk dons. Completly get the base support issue

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Which quite a few Hammers fans seem to be regretting at the moment

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Originally Posted by total hoofball

Dundalk would certainly have had competition from Cork, Shamrock Rovers and some cross channel clubs for Connolly's signature if he was on a freebie. No guarantee they would have got him for free next week, they should not look at that as 30-40k wasted if they thought he was worth the money last week

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I think that's a fair point, if he had been a free agent he could gone around loads of clubs looking to see who would pay the biggest wages and possibly a significant signing on fee too built in too, there is absolutely no way Dundalk could have known this was happening today, he's a Dundalk player now and that's that.

What now for Bray, will they limp on to the final week with a junior squad or will the FAI even let them get that far?

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Originally Posted by oriel

I think that's a fair point, if he had been a free agent

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Totally hypothetical and far-fetched to debate that scenario

Why do you think there was any possibility of Dylan Connolly becoming a free agent? Bray has a contract with him to end of 2018

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Originally Posted by tippex

I reckon within the town itself there are enough football people to get involved with the club and ultimately the town to get behind the club but in fairness it needs a complete start from scratch and get rid of the reasons for the town not supporting the club.

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It won't happen while the O'Connors are in charge. Mulvey must know at this stage that they're not getting the ground so his chequebook is closed. The sooner they go the better.

Dundalk could have outbid anyone else to get him if he became a free agent in terms of signing on fee etc ( he probably would have been a free agent in a couple of weeks as clear money is gone) but they couldn't have known that so it's irrelevant. It's like regreting backing a losing horse pointless. Dundalk got screwed by bray but in the context of the euro millions it's nothing. An annoyance nothing else I'd say for them. He's there now time will tell if it was a good signing whether it was for 40. 30 20 or 10

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Originally Posted by Ezeikial

That's the question the players are currently asking - where will the money come form?

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My question was more where had the money come to date?

The Bray players have had a good season to date, hopefully it will help them all to get contracts until the end of the season.

In the event of Bray folding and results being expunged it will have an interesting impact on the lower half of the table. Top it will rid Cork of one win and Dundalk of a win and a loss. Sligo and Limerick will lose 4 i think, and Bohs will lose 3 points, Pats and Drogheda will lose 1 point all others will have GD adjusted and 1 loss knocked off. With tonights game not taken in to account Sligo go clear at the bottom and even with a win v Rovers will be joint bottom on 16 pts with Drogheda and Pats.

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Originally Posted by legendz

My question was more where had the money come to date?

The Bray players have had a good season to date, hopefully it will help them all to get contracts until the end of the season.

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McCabe is having a decent season. A move to Pats could be the difference for them to pull clear. Brennan to Drogheda lol

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Originally Posted by Seagull

It won't happen while the O'Connors are in charge. Mulvey must know at this stage that they're not getting the ground so his chequebook is closed. The sooner they go the better.

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That's the very reason I said start from Scratch. The writing was on the wall after the council meeting when it became apparent there was 0 support in doing a deal on the carlisle.

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Originally Posted by legendz

My question was more where had the money come to date?

The Bray players have had a good season to date, hopefully it will help them all to get contracts until the end of the season.

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See above from seagull for who was paying it/ speculating to accumulate.

Cliff notes are O'Connors came in, ousted the McGettigans takeover which would have been the best option for Bray, forced out pretty much all long term volunteers and most of what little local support they had, brought a shady property developer with them as a silent backer on the promise of a pie in the sky plan to convince the council to build apartments on the Carlisle & O'Connors/ Mulvey get the £££ for that and the council build Bray a shiny new stadium at no cost to them. All with Bray being leasees on the Carlisle and it being council owned. Council tell them to get rightly get stuffed, now O'Connors/ Mulvey play the woe is us card and try and pull as much out of Bray to line their pockets before they get caught with their hands in the till now the council didn't go for the magic beans they were selling.

Whatever about the ins and outs of the above, another prime example of how little f**ks the FAI & their "licencing" committee give. As was said, plain as day to anyone with even a passing interest in the league what was going on at Bray, and Athlone too as soon as they happened, never mind reviewing and approving budgets and licencing from what should be rock solid figures or projections.

If the governing body of the sport in the country doesn't give a rats arse about the domestic game and only takes a half arsed token approach to governance, licencing, sponsorship, facilities, tv rights etc, the whole lot, that only invites the absolute chancers and shysters who come along every year or two to a club trying to scam and make a fast buck.

Looks to have been a pure property play. Players have done well out of it and I am sure most realised what the game was. Will what happened at Sporting Fingal, Shels happen now, i.e. manager and majority of players move to another club(Pats and Bohs in those cases) and have success there? Of course because of the shorter time frame involved with Bray their success has been limited to a place in the Iran-Bru Cup.
Terrible for the fans/volunteers. Difficult to see how anyone can blame the FAI for this.

Bohs would lose 6 points if Bray fold and would land right back in the relegation dogfight.
And another thing.....
Am I right in thinking that Dundalk are contracted to pay tens of thousands of Euros to "Bray" for Connolly, and yet the Chair of the Board says they have no money to pay players wages?
PFAI should at least be referring this to the Office of the Director of Corporate Enforcement, and also possibly to the Gardai to investigate potential fraudulent acts by the company directors,.