Manchester atrocity

How xenophobic against those poor Americans you all have become lads. Very sad and disheartening. Against everything Foot.ie has ever stood for. Paul O'Shea would be ashamed of you God Rest his soul.

Post Office won't go into high immigration area due to safety concerns:
https://heatst.com/world/danish-post...d-to-go-there/

And: The Tower fire was revenge.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9LexAusBQk

When did this thread just become about immigrants?

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Originally Posted by KrisLetang

Caveat: One time Rather showed up for work with a black eye. He claimed a "deranged maniac" came up to him out of nowhere and shouted "What's the frequency Kenneth" and punched him in the face. REM wrote a song about it. He was terrible at lying.

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He might be terrible at lying, but the assault was proven, and a man arrested for it, in 1997: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Ra...requency.3F.22

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In 1997, a TV critic writing in the New ​York Daily News solved the mystery, publishing a photo of the alleged assailant, William Tager, who received a  12 ¹⁄₂-to-25-year prison sentence for killing NBC stagehand Campbell Montgomery outside The Today Show studio in 1994. Rather confirmed the story: "There's no doubt in my mind that this is the person." New York District Attorney Robert M. Morgenthau said, "William Tager's identity as the man who attacked Mr. Rather was established in the course of an investigation by my office." Tager claimed he thought television networks were beaming signals into his brain. When he murdered the stagehand, Tager was trying to force his way into a NBC studio with a weapon, in order to find out the frequency the networks were using to attack him, so that he could block it. Tager was paroled in October 2010 and is believed to be living in New York City

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That was definitely the guy who killed the stage hand but I doubt he was the one who punched DR....supposedly it was an angry husband. Don't even get me started on Morgenthau.

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Originally Posted by KrisLetang

Post Office won't go into high immigration area due to safety concerns:
https://heatst.com/world/danish-post...d-to-go-there/

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Finley Peter Dunne once said that the job of good journalism was to afflict the comfortable and comfort the afflicted. This sort of gutter journalism is just dressed-up immigrant-bashing. I would suggest that crime and safety concerns have most likely arisen primarily due to inequality issues within Danish society - or due to the poverty, unemployment and sense of alienation experienced by the inhabitants of that area in particular, in other words - rather than some inherent moral or cultural failing on the part of demonised immigrants who happen to make up a significant proportion of the population in the poverty-stricken area most likely on account of their marginalisation and exclusion from the Danish social and economic mainstream. Inequality, poverty and alienation are direct causes of higher petty crime rates.

Just scrutinising the details of this story a little closer, I note that Postnord took the decision not to deliver post in Vollsmose due to two of their delivery workers having been threatened and one of their vans broken into. I haven't even seen any evidence to suggest immigrants were responsible for the threats or the break-in. Not that that would justify tarring all immigrants with the same brush anyway.

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Originally Posted by KrisLetang

And: The Tower fire was revenge.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9LexAusBQk

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An understandably angry member of the public is vox popped and engages in some impulsive (and admittedly paranoid) conspiracy theorising after an utterly disgraceful and politically-preventable tragedy. What's your point? Are her comments really that noteworthy?

Several people injured after a van ploughed into Muslims observing Ramadan outside a mosque in Finsbury Park in Jeremy Corbyn's constituency: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-40322960

I assume the usual suspects must have encountered internet trouble on their way to post this so I've done them the liberty.

KrisLetang, as the others have said, there is no indication that the "no-go" for the postal service in Denmark is anything to do with immigration.

You might be interested to have a look at these google search results: https://www.google.com/search?q=fire...hrome&ie=UTF-8

The fire brigade have a major problem with being called out and attacked by youths who are overwhelmingly white and Irish.

Certain bridges over the M50 in Dublin have had to be retroactively covered in mesh, because white Irish people were throwing stones into 120km/h traffic and causing a threat to life.

The common factor is almost always social deprivation and alienation, not Islam, or any other religion.

In Derry and Belfast, even ambulances tending to patients have been pelted with missiles and ambulance crews have been abused whilst on duty: https://www.derrynow.com/news/ambula...h-today/139418

It's something that has been happening for years: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/360831.stm

Such instances of anti-social behaviour have absolutely nothing to do with immigration or Islam, considering those engaged in such behaviour locally are white Irish (or white British). As Peadar says, it's social deprivation and alienation that fuels it.

Forget the north, that happens here. Bus Eireann stopped a route going down the Hyde Road in Limerick a few years ago because of "anti-social" attacks from local morons.

Peadar and Danny have built quite a convincing case that we need to stop immigration from the northside and Derry.

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Originally Posted by DannyInvincible

it's social deprivation and alienation that fuels it.

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How can a (largely) self segregating society say they feel sad or violent about alienation? I was listening to Mark Steyn guest host for Rush on the radio last week. He said the vibrant Jewish and Gay communities of East London were run out by Muslim communities. Is there any truth to that? Really asking anyone but Danny BC I already know his answer. Muslim countries seem largely self segregated. To say the least. Isn't it fairly obvious the trend tends to continue when they move to the West? There is a huge problem with the Somali community in Minnesota...they don't like gay people and are harassing them. MSM is trying desperately to keep the lid down on it. But there are videos out.

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Originally Posted by KrisLetang

How can a (largely) self segregating society say they feel sad or violent about alienation? I was listening to Mark Steyn guest host for Rush on the radio last week. He said the vibrant Jewish and Gay communities of East London were run out by Muslim communities. Is there any truth to that? Really asking anyone but Danny BC I already know his answer. Muslim countries seem largely self segregated. To say the least. Isn't it fairly obvious the trend tends to continue when they move to the West? There is a huge problem with the Somali community in Minnesota...they don't like gay people and are harassing them. MSM is trying desperately to keep the lid down on it. But there are videos out.

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Christ. Where do you start with this nonsense?

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Originally Posted by KrisLetang

How can a (largely) self segregating society say they feel sad or violent about alienation? I was listening to Mark Steyn guest host for Rush on the radio last week. He said the vibrant Jewish and Gay communities of East London were run out by Muslim communities. Is there any truth to that? Really asking anyone but Danny BC I already know his answer.

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What were you expecting me to say? Do you actually expect anyone else to say anything other than "no", considering Mark Steyn was so obviously talking total baloney?

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Muslim countries seem largely self segregated. To say the least. Isn't it fairly obvious the trend tends to continue when they move to the West? There is a huge problem with the Somali community in Minnesota...they don't like gay people and are harassing them. MSM is trying desperately to keep the lid down on it. But there are videos out.

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What do you mean when you say Muslim society and Muslim countries are "largely self-segregating"? Like how Zionist Jews have created a Jewish state in Israel, you mean?

When migrants/refugees move to a new country generally, they're naturally in a rather vulnerable and precarious position given their general lack of social, cultural, political and economic roots or connections in that new country. Thus, it is entirely common for them to concentrate together in higher numbers for security, safety, solidarity and to maintain a sense of community. Grouping together is a means of mitigating marginalisation and potential alienation, although it doesn't necessarily prevent the experience of such either. Of course, this doesn't mean that Muslim migrants or refugees can't or don't want to integrate, nor does it mean mutual respect and compromise aren't possible.

This phenomenon isn't something that is unique to Muslims either. There are areas in the UK - Kilburn in London, for example - that are historically considered to be "Irish areas". There are other areas in the UK historically regarded as "Jewish areas". Don't you have the same along the eastern US seaboard with "Irish areas" and "Italian areas", for example?

Muslim attitudes in relation to homosexuality are complex, but do you think homophobia is a problem that is unique to Islam and Muslims? Doesn't the Catholic Church too regard homosexual acts to be sinful? Far-right white nationalist groups also often express profoundly homophobic views.

An interesting piece on the largely-ignored (suppressed?) voice of Salman Abedi's sister when it has come to the mainstream British media's "analysis" of why the Manchester Arena attack happened: https://www.peacenews.info/node/8747...pearing-sister

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Originally Posted by Milan Rai

While there was a lot of confident speculation [as to why the massacre happened] by people who never met Salman Abedi, there is one person who has spoken up who definitely knew Abedi well:

‘Abedi’s sister, Jomana Abedi, said her brother was kind and loving and that she was surprised by what he did this week. She said she thought he was driven by what he saw as injustices. “I think he saw children – Muslim children – dying everywhere, and wanted revenge. He saw the explosives America drops on children in Syria, and he wanted revenge,” she said. “Whether he got that is between him and God.”’

This quote was given to the Wall St Journal and published on 25 May under the headline: ‘Manchester Bomber Believed Muslims Were Mistreated, Sought Revenge’. It’s possible that Jomana Abedi is wrong about what motivated her brother. What is not in doubt is that her explanation (not a justification) remains the single best piece of publicly-available evidence about Salman Abedi’s state of mind when he carried out mass murder at the Manchester Arena. How did the British mainstream media handle this important piece of information about the Manchester attack?

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In this case, what we find is that Jomana Abedi’s evidence has been reported in the British press – and it has also effectively been suppressed. On the face of it, you might have expected this startling and newsworthy story to become part of the conversation about the Manchester attack. Far from it. What we find, repeatedly, is that her statement is often buried at the end of a story; it is noted casually; and it has been mentioned only once or twice most of the elite newspapers.

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I was totally unaware of her words until I came across this piece a short while ago.