Haha, as if that wasn't co-ordinated by the IFA. They'll still demand we get punished. Shameless.
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Haha, as if that wasn't co-ordinated by the IFA. They'll still demand we get punished. Shameless.
Ah, I don't know CD, it looks pretty off the cuff. Spontaneous.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
It's not a poppy, it's a 4 leaved red clover.
http://images.clipshrine.com/wheel/t...33.3-18204.png
FIFA has opened disciplinary proceedings against England and Scotland also.
Hope UEFA really stick it to them for being grasses.
Is that more poppy/lilies/four-leaf-clover references?Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Wales and NI being investigated also for their displays.
http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/38077727
A hefty fine for 3 FAs for their overt political display and childish disobedience, but a points deduction for the snitching.
FAI to get a polite reprimand.
FAI fined €4,670 without the right to appeal.
England and Scotland have been ordered to pay almost €45,000 and €20,000 respectively over their decision to have players wear armbands with poppy symbols when the two sides met each other at Wembley. They have the right to appeal as the fine exceeds 15,000 CHF.
The Football Association of Wales were fined £15,692 and the Irish Football Association £11,769 for related offences.
FAI hit with a fine for commemorative 1916 shirts
I'm just happy to be wrong on the extent to which the book got thrown at us. We got off very lightly relatively. We're lucky our fine doesn't dwarf the four UK associations fines combined. They appear to have been fined for being defiant where as we appear to have been fined for being a bit thick.
Why so?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lionel Ritchie
what nonsense. there are stadiums in the world named after revolutions, dates of independence etc. Should countrys be fined every time they play there?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lionel Ritchie
what about Barcelona and Bilbao who constantly use Catalan and Basque flags and emblems without fine? sure Barcelona have / had an away kit in the catalan colours.
There's a level of deniability there though. If it went to court Barcelona could just say they liked the color. If Barca were playing with St George's Crosses or something more overt in regards Catalan independence a case could be made.
Did the FAI get permission or not? Basically I think that's all that matters. It seems clear enough now that they must not have but I was pretty sure they did at the time for some reason.
did they get permission for Amhrán na bhFiann at the same time? cant get much more political than a national anthem.... particularly oursQuote:
Originally Posted by DeLorean
I think it's fair to say that FIFA/UEFA have a basic level of political symbols they will tolerate, in the form of flags and anthems. What the "home nations" and Ireland did went beyond that.
There's no way the FAI got permission for it, unless it was some kind of verbal agreement.
FAI and Umbro needed (and presumably got) permission from the government to use the logo (to be more exact - they needed permission to alter the existing crest, which is government owned, to include the 1916 logo). Perhaps that is the permission people remember being granted.
Like the St George's cross on their crest?Quote:
Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter
Fair comment to an extent. I'm unaware of any rules regarding the naming of stadia though. The rules that are there relate to political displays. We were in breach of those -letter and spirit.Quote:
Originally Posted by jbyrne
The UK associations asked. They were given warnings not to -with the exception of Wales I believe who were given a much more diluted wishy washy "cannot guarentee you won't be in breach" response. They were fined for ignoring a rule they were fully aware of.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeLorean
We, on the other hand, manifesting the national motto "ah sure it'll be grand" never even bothered asking. We just fired away and did it. I reckoned they'd bend us over a bench. I'm pleasantly surprised to be wrong.