Northern Ireland 1-1 Republic of Ireland (WCQ - Windsor Park, 17th November 1993)

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Originally Posted by SkStu

I know because I heard it directly from those who were there at the time but I actually don’t give a sh!te what you think to be honest, you absolute bore. Every post from you is the same crap, just packaged differently. Thinly veiled elitist and bigoted crap.

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Here is what Kevin Gallen himself said, in tribute to Big Mac:

“Alan McDonald was a hero to me as a boy and then when I joined QPR there I was playing alongside the man.
“To be honest, he gave me a hard time at first – it was non-stop banter with him around – and I didn’t like it.
“But I got used to it and I realised that not only was Macca a great player, he was a great man – someone I looked up to so much.
“He had a reputation as this hard man. He wasn’t like that at all. He was a gentle giant – a genuinely nice person who everyone thought the world of.
“Macca’s a proper legend and was a great bloke who’ll be missed by so many people. It’s an absolute tragedy that he’s gone.”

And while we're at it, here's what another ROI international said upon hearing of his death:
Gary Waddock, another fans’ favourite during his time as a QPR player, brought McDonald in as his right-hand man after being installed as manager of the club in 2006.
Waddock, now manager of Wycombe, said: “He was not only a great player, but a great person too.
“The word legend gets used too much, but Macca was a real legend. He’s right up there with the finest players QPR have ever had.
“As a player, and as a man, he was one of the very best. I’m shocked and saddened by what’s happened and feel for his family."
https://www.westlondonsport.com/feat...-to83-qpr-hero

Meaning that when you and your (supposed) sources denigrate him as some kind of sectarian "scumbag", it is your bigotry and prejudice which is coming out.

Fortunately all the many Irish people, North and South, who played with and for Big Mac, know better - and have all said what a great guy he really was, loud and clear.

Meanwhile, I'll probably get blamed by the "usual suspects" for dragging this thread further off topic, blithely ignoring who it was brought up Bingham, and now McDonald, in the first place.

Which would be a bit like eg Bohs fans posting a lot of offensive lies about Shamrock Rovers, causing Shams fans to stick up for themselves, then finding that they (Shams) were to "blame".

All of which is the sort of thing which you might expect eg from YBIG, but I must say, I thought rather better of this forum. Mods?

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Originally Posted by EalingGreen

Mods?

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The Mod has posted a multiple link quotes post about the reality of that evening.

Even the Gallen quote is heavily qualified, basically saying if you could put up with him being an absolute c**t for long enough he'd move onto others, not the usual eulogy content there & he must have been a right f*cker if Gallen still after all these years felt the need to say that upon his passing. So I'm perfectly happy to take Stu's word on it.

I'm moving back on topic.
Maybe time you moved on somewhere too. You add nothing.

Can we take the historical debate to another thread

Norn Iron are not in the play offs

Insidetherock implying EG should go live under a rock, interesting!:)

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Originally Posted by EalingGreen

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... this gave rise to claims about eg singing of The Billy Boys etc. Yet if you watch the actual game (above), where the soundtrack is clear, that song was not sung once!

Now it is true that there were some occasional, rather desultory choruses of The Sash from a section of the crowd, which I don't defend or deny. But other than that, plus some nasty booing of a couple of individuals (Phelan, Kernaghan), there was nothing else objectionable about any of the chants or songs from the NI support throughout the entire game.
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We're not bigots, but...

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Originally Posted by gastric

Insidetherock implying EG should go live under a rock, interesting!:)

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He's halfway there with his caveman ideology.