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12/02/2013, 12:21 PM
Stuttgart88

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Originally Posted by balls.ie poster

When did Irish rugby attempt to generate a soccer-style atmosphere at our home ground?

Usual holier-than-thou nonsense. Soccer ain't perfect but a good soccer atmosphere is nothing rugby should be afraid of.
12/02/2013, 12:27 PM
peadar1987

Before we get on-topic again from the rugby-bashing, I'm going to throw this in:

It really annoys me when rugby fans act like their sport is better than football because "you wouldn't see rugby players diving on the floor like a ballerina every time someone comes near them". etc. etc.

That's not because rugby players are inherently better human beings or anything, it's because there's no advantage. You can bet your life if they could win a penalty by throwing themselves on the ground like they'd been shot, then they would. Instead, their cheating is more along the lines of stamping, punching, and eye gouging. Both sports have problems, don't act like yours is so saintly and perfect!!

Rant over!
12/02/2013, 12:30 PM
Charlie Darwin

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Originally Posted by peadar1987

Before we get on-topic again from the rugby-bashing, I'm going to throw this in:

It really annoys me when rugby fans act like their sport is better than football because "you wouldn't see rugby players diving on the floor like a ballerina every time someone comes near them". etc. etc.

That's not because rugby players are inherently better human beings or anything, it's because there's no advantage. You can bet your life if they could win a penalty by throwing themselves on the ground like they'd been shot, then they would. Instead, their cheating is more along the lines of stamping, punching, and eye gouging. Both sports have problems, don't act like yours is so saintly and perfect!!

Rant over!

Plus rugby players do dive when it is advantageous.
12/02/2013, 1:32 PM
paul_oshea

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Originally Posted by peadar1987

Before we get on-topic again from the rugby-bashing, I'm going to throw this in:

It really annoys me when rugby fans act like their sport is better than football because "you wouldn't see rugby players diving on the floor like a ballerina every time someone comes near them". etc. etc.

That's not because rugby players are inherently better human beings or anything, it's because there's no advantage. You can bet your life if they could win a penalty by throwing themselves on the ground like they'd been shot, then they would. Instead, their cheating is more along the lines of stamping, punching, and eye gouging. Both sports have problems, don't act like yours is so saintly and perfect!!

Rant over!

Its not though its usually done from the viewpoint of "its more manly" or a "proper mans sport", rather than a cheating one. In the rugby fans, and GAA fans, its that he is a weaker human being by getting hurt easier than their GAA or Rugby playing counterpart.
12/02/2013, 1:58 PM
peadar1987

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Originally Posted by paul_oshea

Its not though its usually done from the viewpoint of "its more manly" or a "proper mans sport", rather than a cheating one. In the rugby fans, and GAA fans, its that he is a weaker human being by getting hurt easier than their GAA or Rugby playing counterpart.

But if the GAA and rugby players could get an advantage from pretending to be hurt, they would. It's not because they're "more manly" or "proper men" that they don't do it, it's that there's more advantage to be gained by cheating elsewhere.
12/02/2013, 2:05 PM
paul_oshea

I think they find it hard to abstract the two to be honest.
12/02/2013, 2:10 PM
Stuttgart88

Quote:

Originally Posted by peadar1987

Before we get on-topic again from the rugby-bashing, I'm going to throw this in:

It really annoys me when rugby fans act like their sport is better than football because "you wouldn't see rugby players diving on the floor like a ballerina every time someone comes near them". etc. etc.

That's not because rugby players are inherently better human beings or anything, it's because there's no advantage. You can bet your life if they could win a penalty by throwing themselves on the ground like they'd been shot, then they would. Instead, their cheating is more along the lines of stamping, punching, and eye gouging. Both sports have problems, don't act like yours is so saintly and perfect!!

Rant over!

I promise that's not me logging onto Peadar's account!
12/02/2013, 2:14 PM
peadar1987

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Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

I promise that's not me logging onto Peadar's account!

And liking your own posts.
12/02/2013, 2:31 PM
DannyInvincible

There's plenty of play-acting and simulation in Gaelic football when it can prove beneficial to engage in it. Here's just one example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHuU3EdJ1NQ
12/02/2013, 2:45 PM
BonnieShels

I can't see that due to a work block on YouTube but it has to be a Corkman, maybe Graham Canty or the swallow himself, Kieran Donaghy.

Now close this thread dag nabbit!
12/02/2013, 4:42 PM
SkStu

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Originally Posted by paul_oshea

although I dont make all the home games, i still ensure i purchase a ticket and never miss the match on tele. I think it isn't possible for all of us to go, but it is possible for all of us to "support", and by that i mean buying a ticket and still watching the game somewhere.

Why? I think that is completely unneccessary. I dont think it makes you any more of a fan than someone who lives in London and just watches the games. All I think is that it is a complete waste of your money. Does anyone get the use of your ticket??
12/02/2013, 5:16 PM
geysir

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Originally Posted by DannyInvincible

There's plenty of play-acting and simulation in Gaelic football when it can prove beneficial to engage in it. Here's just one example:

Typical Derry whataboutery :)

Here's a more common Cork Kerry, fist to face, merely handbags. :D

http://oi44.tinypic.com/348q54h.jpg
13/02/2013, 10:08 AM
paul_oshea

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Originally Posted by SkStu

Why? I think that is completely unneccessary. I dont think it makes you any more of a fan than someone who lives in London and just watches the games. All I think is that it is a complete waste of your money. Does anyone get the use of your ticket??

If, for the reason you don't support by purchasing tickets, you think that its completely unnecessary, I disagree, I would see it as completely necessary, for I can't be there in person, I'm pretty sure the FAI, who our team represent, are more than happy with the financial support I am offering.
13/02/2013, 10:11 AM
tetsujin1979

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Originally Posted by paul_oshea

If, for the reason you don't support by purchasing tickets, you think that its completely unnecessary, I disagree, I would see it as completely necessary, for I can't be there in person, I'm pretty sure the FAI, who our team represent, are more than happy with the financial support I am offering.

who gets the ticket, or is it another empty seat?
13/02/2013, 10:12 AM
tetsujin1979

just as a compare and contrast, here's Alan Quinlan's thoughts on the crowd at the Ireland - England game at the weekend: http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...329981475.html
13/02/2013, 10:17 AM
paul_oshea

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Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

who gets the ticket, or is it another empty seat?

Empty seat normally, id rather someone else also spent money.

Whatever people think of the people that run the FAI, they run football in the country and need all the money they can get, especially given how poor attended the league is. Without sounding somewhat self-righteous, and I know I can put stutts in this bracket also, I see it like a charitable donation as much as anything else - and thats not because they have my sympathy, rather my support. It would be good if a few more expats, who cant really support in any other way did the same.
13/02/2013, 12:38 PM
IsMiseSean

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Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

just as a compare and contrast, here's Alan Quinlan's thoughts on the crowd at the Ireland - England game at the weekend: http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...329981475.html

Quinlan finding it hard to get he's head around the fact that the majority of Rugby 'supporters' are bandwagoners.
13/02/2013, 1:42 PM
Stuttgart88

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Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

just as a compare and contrast, here's Alan Quinlan's thoughts on the crowd at the Ireland - England game at the weekend: http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...329981475.html

I think that's an excellent article by the way and I think footy fans will empathise with that. Even during the Croker rugby games (I was at many of them) the atmosphere was flat, except the famous England game. I was at the opener against France and might as well have been watching snooker. Something's gone amiss at both footy and rugger methinks.
13/02/2013, 1:45 PM
tetsujin1979

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Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

Quote:

Originally Posted by balls.ie poster

When did Irish rugby attempt to generate a soccer-style atmosphere at our home ground?

Usual holier-than-thou nonsense. Soccer ain't perfect but a good soccer atmosphere is nothing rugby should be afraid of.

only spotted this now. This has been going on for ages, Leinster play a short tune every time there's a score announced. I don't know what it is, but it sounds like something from Zorro, or a bullfight, and the crowd chants "Ole" when it finishes.
Doesn't happen at Thomond Park, or at least not after every score.
13/02/2013, 1:54 PM
Stuttgart88

re-Paul's remark above, yes, I see the FAI as a deserving charity to a large degree. I grin and bear ticket prices. I'm what they call "price inelastic".

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