I meant the attitude that he should be sacked because people get bored watching the matches on TV, as displayed in the board thread linked above.
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I meant the attitude that he should be sacked because people get bored watching the matches on TV, as displayed in the board thread linked above.
We need one outstanding player to come through. Or at least a couple of very good players. Then we will see better football. If Roy Keane was at his peak now as a player and playing under Trap in this team then the standard of football would be miles better. More than any change of tactics we need a few breakout players. Hopefully McCarthy, Mayler or a.n. other will step up to the plate.
RMK would have made minimal difference, maybe more aggression.
As for 'stepping up', most of the current fringe players don't seem up to it, if any.
Surely a wind up?Quote:
Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
Apologies if posted already. Good article from Liam Mackey.
http://examiner.ie/sport/soccer/trap...rd-170724.html
Not a wind-up, he was more of an enforcer and ball-winner, than great creative force, in midfield...
We need another Mark Kinsella!
Mackey's great, I really look forward to reading his stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by Supreme feet
That's Lee Carsley you're describing. Roy Keane was significantly more than that. And he may not have been overly creative but he still had decent vision and could pick out a pass better than the players we currently have imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
Think a few of the fringe players could yet step up, too premature to write any of them off. Though I do agree the system will inevitably limit them. Keane was a one-off - not sure if any of these guys could literally drag this team to a World Cup given the way we currently play.
I still think that that version of RMK is overplayed. He was fantastic but he failed to stop Iran having 2 or 3 clear cut chances in Dublin which Shay saved. He failed to do anything in Iran at all, cos he had a big game coming up for Man U. :) Keane didn't score an equaliser in Lisbon, nor did he even play in Estonia.Quote:
Originally Posted by SwanVsDalton
He was a key player, - no doubt whatsoever -, probably our best, but in a very good, well-balanced team.
Maybe it's overplayed but it was still ridiculous what he did in a couple of those games. Ireland has never had a player who could exert that kind of influence through sheer force of will alone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
Portugal at home was unreal, alright.
Influence is they key word. Whatever about what he actually did with the ball, his ability to influence a game at the very highest level just by doing basic stuff excellently is rarely seen.
Cyprus away.
He also started the move for McAteer's winner against Holland. He carried the team through a lot of dodgy games, and it's to Holland and Kinsella's credit that they were able to fill the void at the World Cup.
Keane was a destroyer, no doubt, but he was a playmaker in the way of short pass and move plays. A lot of his passes didn't look that spectactular because they weren't often the artistic long-range Andy Reid pinpoint style passes.
But anyway my point was that ArdeeBhoy's comment that Roy Keane would make "minimal difference" is absurd.
No, he was an egotistical tosser who only turned up when He fancied it.
And always will be.
Feck him.
There is a bit of a stand off as regards to a new contract for Trap according to an article by Fanning in the Indo.
I'd support the FAI's stance totally, no talks until the play offs are done and dusted.
Being an egotistical tosser, and being rather good at football aren't mutually exclusive. I hate Keane with a fiery passion, but not even I can deny he was one hell of a player.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
Maybe, but it's got feck all to do with who should replace Trap.
Unless you're suggesting that bottler?
Nothing to see here folks. Usual Indo tripe.Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir