Russia v Republic of Ireland - Tuesday, 6th September 2011 - Euro 2012 Qualifier

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04/09/2011, 3:10 PM
Sullivinho

I think Trap has more of a gr� for Kelly so he'll probably get the nod. Strong potential for error in that defense as well-meaning as they are. The rest of 'em could hardly not improve on their previous performances so that's something I s'pose.
04/09/2011, 3:27 PM
Paddy Garcia

That defense will need a decent CM partnership protecting it.

I can't recall the CM pairing in the summer friendly's, but I suspect it was a missed opportunity to try something different - if something different even exists! Id add that I don't think Green is the answer - unless the question is whats the shirt colour!

Its the most important part of the park and dictates whether we spend the game on the back or front foot.
04/09/2011, 3:36 PM
Paddy Garcia

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Originally Posted by Sullivinho

Beyond any limitation in ability, there's a certain meekness about them that doesn't help. Although I s'pose you could say the same about Kinsella and Holland and they weren't a bad partnership on the big occasion. I'd greatly appreciate it if some members of the Russian team, preferably those in any way fluent in english language insults of the mother-invoking variety, would take it upon themselves to provoke the pair of them immediately before kickoff on tuesday. I doubt a true nasty b@stard lurks within either but at the very least a repeat of the Andrews/Diarra confrontation after the home playoff against France would be a great prelude to the game and the atmosphere in general. Stoic gentlemen that they are though, I don't think the Russians will oblige.

I think they were both captains of teams in the English top division (whatever it was/is called). This suggests some leadership qualities, which to be fair were often evidenced in a green shirt.

A reprise of the attitude in the French away leg would certainly help though.
04/09/2011, 4:24 PM
Morbo

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Originally Posted by DannyInvincible

I see that Castrol calculation site updated their calculations today, so what I'd posted earlier seems to be how they rated our chances prior to the Slovakia game. Here is how they rate the chances of ourselves, Russia and Slovakia now.

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/c...a8498e24b5.png

They still predict that we're most likely to finish second; just that our chance of qualifying is slightly less than it was before Friday night whilst the chances of the other two are rated as slightly higher.

They only gave Slovakia a 1.8% chance of winning the group and a 7% chance of qualifying prior to Friday? :rofl: Madness, I can't take any of their other stats too seriously after that.
04/09/2011, 4:44 PM
Stuttgart88

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Originally Posted by Sullivinho

I think Trap has more of a gr� for Kelly so he'll probably get the nod.

That's what I think too.
04/09/2011, 6:07 PM
DannyInvincible

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Originally Posted by Morbo

They only gave Slovakia a 1.8% chance of winning the group and a 7% chance of qualifying prior to Friday? :rofl: Madness, I can't take any of their other stats too seriously after that.

Those estimations are post-Friday, which I think is strange. Prior to Friday, they were actually giving Slovakia a 1.5% chance of winning the group and a 6.6% chance of qualifying.
04/09/2011, 6:09 PM
DannyInvincible

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Originally Posted by Noelys Guitar

Likely team for Tuesday
Westwood (Given should not play. Definetely looked uncomfortable against Slovakia. Carrying two different injuries back and groin is too much)
Foley/Kelly Dunne O'Dea Ward

...I might have to start on the drink already.
04/09/2011, 6:22 PM
Sullivinho

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Originally Posted by DannyInvincible

Those estimations are post-Friday, which I think is strange. Prior to Friday, they were actually giving Slovakia a 1.5% chance of winning the group and a 6.6% chance of qualifying.

Well, it's Castrol. So fume inhalation can't be ruled out as a contributing factor. :D
04/09/2011, 6:35 PM
DannyInvincible

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Originally Posted by Sullivinho

Well, it's Castrol. So fume inhalation can't be ruled out as a contributing factor. :D

Actually, sack the drink. Make mine a Castrol.
04/09/2011, 6:53 PM
Fergie's Son

In essence, we can't afford to lose to Russia. We get a draw and win our remaining games then we may sneak it via the play-offs. Too simple an analysis?
04/09/2011, 7:03 PM
pineapple stu

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Originally Posted by Fergie's Son

Too simple an analysis?

Not really. Basically, Slovakia have to beat our result in Russia now - if we finish level on points, we're ahead of them on head to head (away goals). If we draw in Moscow and win the last two (and we should do the latter anyway), then Slovakia have to win their last three games to come second (and they'd probably come first with that).

That said, given the injury list we have, it's hard to see us getting anything in Moscow.
04/09/2011, 7:31 PM
DannyInvincible

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Not really. Basically, Slovakia have to beat our result in Russia now - if we finish level on points, we're ahead of them on head to head (away goals). If we draw in Moscow and win the last two (and we should do the latter anyway), then Slovakia have to win their last three games to come second (and they'd probably come first with that).

Not quite, given a draw for Slovakia against Russia and two wins in their other games means they'd top the group if we also draw with Russia.
04/09/2011, 7:33 PM
pineapple stu

Ah yes. That poxy three-way tie... Bugger.
04/09/2011, 8:00 PM
ifk101

Dunne and O'Dea isn't the quickest of pairings. Ideally I'd play Kelly as Dunne's partner but I don't think we can start Foley at RB.
04/09/2011, 8:13 PM
BonnieShels

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Ah yes. That poxy three-way tie... Bugger.

It really is such an illogical pile of bawlls to decide a group. why not just draw lots. We always do well there...
04/09/2011, 9:01 PM
Noelys Guitar

Is it going to be Doyle or Cox up front alongside Keane? Arshavin was on about Ireland and the long ball whole game and then even more long ball earlier on today. He has a point. Why are we launching the ball from Dunne up to Cox and Keane? Or to Doyle and Keane if it becomes clear Doyle is not winning his headers. I don't care if we play long ball the whole night but there has to be a decent target man winning the ball.
04/09/2011, 9:05 PM
shakermaker1982

I'd go Doyle. He cannot play any worse that he did Friday. Key player for us and will hopefully come good.
04/09/2011, 9:07 PM
Colbert Report

Serious point here. Why is Caleb Folan or Leon Best not in the squad, even if it is just to throw them on for the last twenty minutes of long balls?
04/09/2011, 9:19 PM
AlaskaFox

Bring back Gary Doherty! But to answer your question, both of them harmed their chances by not turning up for friendlies.
04/09/2011, 9:23 PM
Colbert Report

Wow! Whatever about Leon Best, I didn't know Caleb Folan was in a position to turn down invitations to friendlies. Unreal!

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