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What are FAI and, surely more importantly, UEFA and FIFA rules on (these as yet totally unproven allegations of) matchfixing?
CSFShels, are you sure it's as simple as just punishing the players involved but not the club? Does it have to involve the board for the club to be punished? I'm not disagreeing, I don't know what the answers are.
I think, think, that Shels have to be deducted 25 points until they can 100% prove nothing untoward went on.
Here's link (from Shelschat) suggesting that if only players are involved, the punishment is limited to the players.Quote:
Originally Posted by osarusan
http://www.uefa.com/memberassociatio...sid=87384.html
In the 2nd leg of a promotion-relegation playoff, Gabornia of the premier division bribed 6 players from Swit of the 1st division, and won 3-0. After investigation, Gabornia demoted, Swit promoted, 6 Swit players banned, 5 for life.
I actually can't believe this!
What kind of greedy scumbag *******s would risk the club's and their reputation, and risk what is ironclad promotion at this stage for a few euro.
I'm actually shocked. Every single one of those involved should never play in this league again. They're a disgrace to Irish football.
In a week where we saw players leave everything on the line to bring our league success, we see these scum bring shame on it with pure and utter greed. It's sickening.
UEFA monitor betting patterns of all domestic games, including national cup competitions, and given the fact that this was also being mentioned on English betting forums you'd expect alarm bells to be raised.
If it's true and it affects our promotion hopes then I'll probably cry.Quote:
Originally Posted by micls
But, and it's a big but, the three goals Sheriff scored were spectacular. No dodgy tap ins or suspicious ogs. All 3 were from outside the box and aided by awful goalkeeping more than anything else. Not to say that's proof it wasn't fixed but Sheriff actually had very few clearcut chances bar those goals.
If anything that post supports the claims. 3 goals, from few chances, with the aid of poor keeping?
Wouldn't be so sure the club isn't involved. We all remember the Wexford game a couple of years ago.
Happy morning to me...
Not shocked by this but sickened. Disgraceful.
Hmmm, I don't really see the logic there to be honest. We didn't create chances for them was my point. The poor keeping was from Dean Delaney who's been at the club for years and if he's complicit I think he'd rather wish he was dead. Also, the Wexford game was a group of players, I've never heard any allegations that someone from the club was involved?
What's to be happy about?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
Look, there was a thread on a Liverpool FC (ffs) website and 3.26 pm yesterday saying that the game would be thrown.
http://forums.liverpoolfc.tv/showthr...30#post6225530
There was also a thread on the lsl website starting at 9.26 am yesterday saying the same thing.
http://www.freeforum101.com/lsl/view...ea5&mforum=lsl
No proof, of course, the liverpool thread starts with 'a taxi driver told me'.
Still, it's starting to walk like a duck.
The club needs to say something in public about this.
Pats are in quarter finals, and Shels aren't. Enough for meQuote:
Originally Posted by born2bwild
Anyone who thinks match fixing isn't going on in every single country in the world is naive beyond belief
While I see your point, with the talk on betting sites it seems far too coincidental to not be fixed.Quote:
Originally Posted by LeixlipRed
That's not to say ye gave away the goals, they sound like great goals. But it could mean that ye didn't try to score more/win after they scored them and also that if they hadn't scored amazing goals they may have found goals in other ways.....Maybe the excellent goals made it easy to fix, didnt have to try too hard?
Tbh, despite this being good for us if some of ye're players are penalised, I'd rather it weren't true. Because it makes me sick to think of scumbags with such obvious disregard for our league and the fans.
I hope for the sake of the fans that it's not true, and can be fully disproven, because I don't think I could support a team with that hanging over them, even if it can't be easily proven.
Yeah well I'm naive and I'm going to stay that way. Dishonesty, cheating and betrayal are still dishonesty, cheating and betrayal even if they're everywhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
Of course, until his penalty comes back into orbit at least.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lim till i die
Woke up with the most severe hangover and completely forgot about this last night. Absolutely distraught. I fear heading to ShelsChat.
Back to the football, decent game in drogs last night, have to admire the way drogs played, passed it about really good and coped very well with 10 men for the entire 2nd half, in which we were pure muck. Only hope is we cant be that bad for the replay on tuesday.
Hello all. I'm a noob on here, although a few will know me from the BTID forum.
I'm still trying to digest these allegations. I know nothing has been proven, but there seems to be a groundswell of opinion that it appears that something seriously dodgy went on. I hope not. Just as LOI PR was on the up...
Thinking about it in practical terms, there couldn't be that much money involved, surely? Would there be enough to pay several players a decent wedge? Who would risk their reputation for the kind of money we are talking about? I just can't see it.
There are enough stupid people around, and they've been seen at shels before. A few players a few years ago against Wexford did similar I believe?
It probably started out with them decided they needed to focus on promotion, not on the cups. From that a few players decided, sure let's put a few quid on and make some money out of it, sure we'll lose anyway or something stupid like that. One or more of them is incapable of keeping their mouths shut and tells friends. Word spreads quickly, loads of people get on the bet and bookies suspend betting. They probably never thought about risking reputation and probably rightly believed it'd be impossible to prove anything anyway.
If it happened..
and Alex Williams, Mickey Collins, or Chris Turner are not even at Shels:eek: