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[QUOTE=ArdeeBhoy;1517302]No offence, but he said he supports SF. Know there's a lot of paranoia about that in the Unionist community, but can assure you that not every current SF supporter 'supports the Provos' or anything like, so that's a slight slur on McClean?
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No, I don't think it's a slur.
Provisional Sinn Fein = "Provo".
Unless, of course, James is a supporter of the other Sinn Fein, ie. Republican Sinn Fein.
Not that it really matters.
What a silly comment.Quote:
Originally Posted by dantheman
Any "Irish Catholic" who wants to play for Northern Ireland, should definately not be forgot about.
Players, from whatever religious background, who do not want to play for Northern Ireland are the ones that should be forgot about.
That's not what was meant and you know it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Not Brazil
In any case the party is referred to as Sinn Fein without the prefix unlike Republican Sinn Fein which used the prefix to distinguish itself.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinn_F%C3%A9in
Provo = member of Provisional IRA (now defunct)Quote:
Originally Posted by Not Brazil
Because James McLean does not want to play for NI he, like Shane Duffy, is a Provo.
Therefore any northern nationalist who does not wish to play for NI is a member of the Provisional IRA!
Dear oh dear..
Sometimes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drumcondra 69er
http://www.sinnfein.org/index2.html
What's the problem?
Member of Provisional Sinn Fein = Provo.
Supporter of Provisional Sinn Fein = Provo supporter.
That's some leap of logic.Quote:
Originally Posted by dantheman
However:
Supporter of Provisional Sinn Fein = Provo supporter.
It's not rocket science.
Sunderland move confirmed
Onwards to page 5!
Why would any Irish Republican want to for ye, with an attitude like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Not Brazil
Onwards and upwards hopefully every kid in Derry and Belfast and other areas of the 6 counties of republican persuasion declares for us if given the opportunity to play for Northern Ireland.
You tell me why any Irish Republican would want to play for Northern Ireland - it's really quite baffling?Quote:
Originally Posted by cufc champions
An Irish Republican would surely want to play for the Republic Of Ireland - the clue is in "Republican".
Any true Irish Republican would be going against Irish Republican idealology to play for Northern Ireland - the IFA being a British Association, as per FIFA Statutes.
Perhaps it's time for the IFA to assume that Irish Republicans' default position is to want to play for the Republic of Ireland?
If an eligible Irish Republican subsequently decides to go against his political principles, he could contact the IFA and let them know that he is interested in playing for Northern Ireland - that makes sense, doesn't it?
I agree with you - the sooner those of a "republican persuasion" decide the live up to their "republican" credentials/principles, and reject any Northern Ireland call up (at any age group) the better. They shouldn't sully their Irish Republican credentials by accepting a call up for "The occupied Six".
Strange thing for an Irish Republican to be representing, let alone giving credance to, Northern Ireland.
Those players, of whatever persuasion/background, who want to play for Northern Ireland are the players Northern Ireland fans want to see in the emerald green of Northern Ireland.
PS: It wasn't me who expressed support for Provisional Sinn Fein on my Facebook page.
PPS: There are no circumstances whatsoever under which I would play for any team representing the Republic of Ireland, inspite of my eligibility to do so. I would leave that honour to someone for whom it was their boyhood dream to represent the Republic Of Ireland.
Ah jeez, not this again.
The sooner we have a non-sectarian island of Ireland team, the better. If rugby can have an all-Ireland league and team without killing each other, then soccer can too.
Ah jeez, not this again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Carrigaline
Ah jeez, not this again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Carrigaline
There is an "All Ireland" team - it is operated by the FAI. I'm sure most of it's supporters would consider it "a non sectarian island of Ireland team".
Anyone from this island can choose to play for it.
Please respect the choice of those who don't, and who want to play for Northern Ireland.
Only way around this is for the FAI to bite the bullet and set up proxy training camps in Belfast & Derry (ie not under the FAI banner itself, but under a company that will follow the same FAI training manual). It should put an end to the matter once and for all.
Funding from Stormont should be made available for the camp. I am sure that Derry City and one of the Belfast Clubs would be happy to get involved in such a project.
That's just taking the ****!Quote:
Originally Posted by dantheman
Sorry, but that's ridiculous. These kids are Northern Irish citizens, their parents pay taxes to the United Kingdom, which go towards providing for facilities. The FAI have no business whatsoever in setting up seperate training camps.Quote:
Originally Posted by dantheman
Another way round it would be for the FAI to locate "camps" in Dundalk & Donegal, for example - hardly out of the way for any Northern Irish lads to get too.Quote:
Originally Posted by dantheman
That way there's no need for "proxy" anything.
You were right.Quote:
Originally Posted by gastric
Dundalk is a bit of a drive from Belfast in fairness.Quote:
Originally Posted by Not Brazil
How about the grounds of Stormont? It would be a good place, I see there was an Edward Carson hurling tournament there a few days ago.
Failing that we continue as we do now, the Public funded IFA training ALL kids from NI who then get to choose at an appropriate age their international career (with no whinging from OWC fans!)
Yer arse - it's an hours drive.Quote:
Originally Posted by dantheman
I take it you're on a wind-up?Quote:
Originally Posted by dantheman