Selected, no. Ignored...maybe he just hasn't posted his letter yet. http://www.irishleaguesupporters.com...ilies/wink.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by EalingGreen
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Selected, no. Ignored...maybe he just hasn't posted his letter yet. http://www.irishleaguesupporters.com...ilies/wink.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by EalingGreen
If young Liam has his heart set on playing for the Republic, perhaps he will show some integrity and get his letter posted to the FAI soon - if he doesn't see his future with Northern Ireland, no point fcuking around (denying someone who really wants the shirt) eh?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_Parker
And don't dilly dally on the way....
His decision and no one elses. Whatever that is he will have my full support.Quote:
Originally Posted by Not Brazil
Absolutely.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_Parker
Best made sooner, rather than later.
No doubt he would do so when it suits him and not someone elses agenda.Quote:
Originally Posted by Not Brazil
So you believe players should be allowed to suit themselves come what may, without any consideration for principle or integrity etc?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_Parker
We'll remember that the next time someone shafts Cliftonville or the ROI, purely out of self-interest...:rolleyes:
I certainly do anyway. As long as the rules (FIFA & legal) are followed, I have no problem with the decisions that players make (self interested or not). Trying to ascribe values like "principle" and "integrity" to uneducated football players is folly. They'll make the decisions that suit them bestQuote:
Originally Posted by EalingGreen
Check out the Shane Lowry thread - no bad feeling or sour grapes from anyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by EalingGreen
http://foot.ie/threads/124017-Shane-Lowry
The only "agenda" I would have ( and, I'd be reasonably confident it would be shared by many of my fellow Northern Ireland supporters) is to ensure we are not dicked about by tosspots with an "agenda".Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_Parker
Message is very clear - if a player doesn't really want to play for Northern Ireland, clear off and let someone who does honour the shirt.
If a player does really want to play for Northern Ireland with pride in the honour bestowed upon him, he'll have unwavering support.
If a player wants to dick about, he'll be treated with appropriate contempt.
That's pretty fair, don't you think?
Well it would seem that some players have been attempting to make that decision, but are being pressurised by the underage IFA managers to stay.Quote:
Originally Posted by Not Brazil
According to a reliable source over on the 'Are We A Country' website.......
Lads alarming news from our u18s, by a nailed on source 2 players mouthing off on the tour being ****ed off, never again wanting to play for NI going to go to the ROI. One of the players apparently had told P Kee previously last year with the u17s he didn't want to play and apparently the manager hounded him over a period of months bending over backwards for him to return. He inturn went on this tour and after getting subed went mouthing off he's never playing for f**ckn NI again. His mate in the team is supposedly saying the same. Don't really want to mention the players in question but apparently their behaviour was rubbish.
What do you suggest should be done? As a dual citizen he has the choice to play for two teams. Players are always going to act in self-interest. Humans have a general tendency to do that. You're deluded if you think otherwise, or that they'd take your agenda into consideration. In this instance, "principle" and "integrity" are just words to mask your own self-interest. For whatever reasons, maybe it suits Boyce to give up his time for Northern Ireland now. And for other reasons, maybe it'll suit him to switch to us at some point in the future. Get off your high-horse.Quote:
Originally Posted by EalingGreen
Declaring his footballing nationality, one way or the other, has nothing to do with his integrity nor could it be seen as him acting purely out of self-interest. Chosing either association is shafting no one. It will be an adult acting on his free will based on his reasons and as per his nationality allows him to do so within the FIFA Statutes.Quote:
Originally Posted by EalingGreen
Liam should get involved with the NI U-21's to try and bring as many as possible over to the land of milk and honey that is playing for the FAI
It's well-known that Shane Duffy was put under similar pressure to stick with Northern Ireland. In fact, Worthington, as well as guilting him and Beaglehole having fast-tracked him through their youth set-up, even called him into the senior squad for a game after Duffy had made it very clear that he wanted to play for us simply in order to make a scapegoat out of Duffy and draw attention to his "dropping out" of the squad. On the back of the illusion that Duffy was in a similar set of circumstances to Darron Gibson et al and the subsequent publicity the stunt garnered, the IFA breached the gentlemen's agreement with the FAI and went off to CAS with Daniel Kearns.Quote:
Originally Posted by co. down green
Who in the NI squad out in Slovenia doesn't want to play for them? Surely once they have declared they have shown that your assertion is not true? If on the other hand you are refering to underage players, that's what they are, underage as viewed by FIFA and free to choose for themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by Not Brazil
hope it works out for him :) who knows
As DannyInvincible has noted, plenty of players were and evidently still are being 'hounded' to stay. Obviously it's the manager's job to try to keep his best players, but I would hope that there is a point where a manager has the courtesy to respect a player's decision. No player should be given a guilt trip to make him stay, nor should he be fast-tracked.Quote:
Originally Posted by co. down green
Oh, so you're still here, troll? Magnificent. We were wondering if you were ever going to actually address the posters who took the time to reply to you.Quote:
Originally Posted by fhtb
You left out the bit from the same source which stated:Quote:
Originally Posted by co. down green
"it causes unrest with the other players as one actually passed comment as to" why don't you f**ck of then." Enough said i think."
Shame on Paul Kee and ther coaching staff for "hounding" such individuals.
They should simply have asked the same (extremely salient) question as the player above - perhaps a little more "diplomatically".
No place, and no compromise, for those who don't want the shirt.
Simple as that.
Have to say, I agree wholeheartedly with you there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Not Brazil