Linfield pull out of Setanta Cup

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Originally Posted by MariborKev

Why is everyone so sure Linfield have not been paid/that no agreement reached with them?

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Statement from Linfield Football Club (as appeared in programme versus Cliftonville 12.12.09

"We are pleased to report than an official of the steering group involved with the restoration of Derry City Football Club has been in touch with our Club with a view to settling the debt incurred over the sale of tickets for the Linfield/Derry City Setanta Sports Cup game at Windsor Park in October. This matter is progressing and we look forward to the full settlementof the amount owed by Derry City to Linfield Football Club"

As of today, no monies have been received by Linfield FC from anyone representing Derry City FC in settlement of this debt.

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Originally Posted by brendy_éire

I couldn't be bothered getting into it. It's completely irrelevant anyway.

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Then why did you raise it?:confused:

Thats just sad on Linfields part, grow up and get over it, nobody saw it coming.

Fair Play to them! I totally agree with them.

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Originally Posted by Not Brazil

Statement from Linfield Football Club (as appeared in programme versus Cliftonville 12.12.09

"We are pleased to report than an official of the steering group involved with the restoration of Derry City Football Club has been in touch with our Club with a view to settling the debt incurred over the sale of tickets for the Linfield/Derry City Setanta Sports Cup game at Windsor Park in October. This matter is progressing and we look forward to the full settlementof the amount owed by Derry City to Linfield Football Club"

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There is no 'restoration' here, a new club is being created.
And no amount is owed by Derry City to LFC.

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Originally Posted by Not Brazil

Then why did you raise it?:confused:

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I raised it when making a point in relation to Linfield's general attitude towards the Setanta Cup. However, it is irrelevant to Linfield's refusal to play us next month.

Again, Linfield are having it both ways. They claim in the programme that they're are owed money by Derry City. Yet in their Belfast Telegraph statement they claim that they're not going to play Derry City because it's a new club.

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Originally Posted by Riddickcule

Thats just sad on Linfields part, grow up and get over it, nobody saw it coming.

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Really?

The Directors of the "old" Derry City didn't see it coming?:eek:

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Originally Posted by brendy_éire

Again, Linfield are having it both ways. They claim in the programme that they're are owed money by Derry City. Yet in their Belfast Telegraph statement they claim that they're not going to play Derry City because it's a new club.

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Ok, I'll side with you being a new Club then.

You shouldn't be in the Setanta Cup, it's a disgrace that you are, and we'll not be playing you in it.

If that costs you a big pay day - tough luck.

Derry City can't have it both ways - what right has this "new" club got to be in the competition, and claiming prize money - when the "old" club folded owing monies to one fellow competitor, and were in dispute with another competitor over finance (Cliftonville)?

Long runs the fox.:)

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Originally Posted by Candystripe

Does anyone actually think any Derry fans would have bought tickets for the game at Windsor Pk if we had known that Linfield would refuse to play the return game.

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Wise up.

I wouldn't have bought tickets if I had known the directors were going to misappropriate the monies.

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Originally Posted by Not Brazil

Long runs the fox.:)

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Well Linfield's statement shows them to be playing a crafty game :p

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Originally Posted by MariborKev

I wouldn't have bought tickets if I had known the directors were going to misappropriate the monies.

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Of course not. But that's not the reason Linfield aren't playing the return game.

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Originally Posted by brendy_éire

Of course not. But that's not the reason Linfield aren't playing the return game.

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What return game?

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Originally Posted by A N Mouse

What return game?

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The one that's meant to be next month.

Yeah, but the home team went bust do you not remember?

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Originally Posted by MariborKev

Yeah, but the home team went bust do you not remember?

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Fine. Not 'return leg' then. Let's just call it the 'Brandywell leg'. :)

Brendy,

I don't see how we have a leg to stand on.

The team that competed in 2009 is bust. Inviting any team into the competition at this point is just a shambles.

LFC need to be paid irrespective or Setanta to give us a shout of applying for a licence.

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Originally Posted by Not Brazil

Statement from Linfield Football Club (as appeared in programme versus Cliftonville 12.12.09

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NB, agreement was reached after that AFAIK.

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Originally Posted by MariborKev

Brendy,

I don't see how we have a leg to stand on.

The team that competed in 2009 is bust. Inviting any team into the competition at this point is just a shambles.

LFC need to be paid irrespective or Setanta to give us a shout of applying for a licence.

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Fair play.

It seems to me the whole Derry City shambles is a useful cover for Linfield to pull out of a competition thats dying on its arse.

Like many things in Irish football it promised a lot at the beginning, but the usual apathy from clubs, fans and respective associations have effectively killed it off.

If it was taken seriously it would've replaced League Cups, County Antrim Rinky Dink Shields etc. and become at worst the 4th priority tournament (after League, Cup and Euro). Instead it was squeezed into an already overcrowded schedule (particularly with the LoI clubs frequently having semi-decent Euro runs at the same time).

The draws weren't particularly kind as well, how exciting is another 2 Big 2 Belfast derbies in a season?

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Originally Posted by MariborKev

I don't see how we have a leg to stand on.

The team that competed in 2009 is bust. Inviting any team into the competition at this point is just a shambles.

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Everything about our club last season was a shambles.
If Setanta want to invite us into the SSC, fair enough. That's their call to make. No Derry fan is claiming we have any right to be in the SSC.
LFC are complaining about it, using it as an excuse to withdraw. They could have suggested an alternative to us filling Wellvan's place, but they haven't. They don't want a solution to this problem because they want to SSC to fail. They wanted out, and we've given them the excuse, albeit a half decent one.

TBH, what I'm most fecked off about isn't that we won't be playing in this season's SSC, it's that this will kill it off completely. Maybe it was dead anyway, who knows, but it certainly can't continue without Linfield.

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Originally Posted by brendy_éire

They could have suggested an alternative to us filling Wellvan's place, but they haven't.

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Why should they, that is the organising committee's job.

If the shoe was on the other foot and Pats or Linfield had "reformed" I would be demanding they be removed from our group and the group decided between the two remaining teams.

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Originally Posted by MariborKev

If the shoe was on the other foot and Pats or Linfield had "reformed" I would be demanding they be removed from our group and the group decided between the two remaining teams.

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So would I. But that's not what Linfield are doing.

Fair play to Linfield for taking a stand and pulling out. Derry city new or old should be grateful for the first div license the FAI are surely gonna grant them for next season. It will be an opportuntity to start fresh. As bad as we were at least we done the honourable thing and pulled out of the compeition when we went in to meltdown some years back. If Derry city is a 'new' club then it has no right to be in the setanta cup. I do agree most Derry fans here are'nt saying they have a divine right to be in it and its up to setanta to invite them but if money is owed by the 'old' club to Linfield then why should'nt Linfield be up in arms about it while derry get off with this debt and continue where the old club left off? Derry can't be allowed to jump from being a 'new' club to 'old' club when it suits them.