Kevin Nolan anyone?

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30/09/2009, 3:03 PM
third policeman

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Originally Posted by ifk101

You just need to accept that not everybody with a grain of Irish ancestry wants to play for Ireland. Let's focus on those that do, eh?

Actually IFK I am not talking about "everybody with a grain of Irish ancestry" I am talking about one individual who once upon a time was actually a member of an Irish international squad, is now eligible to play for us and is better than most of our other central midfield options. I kind of get the point that you would not like to see him selected, and think that he would decline the offer in any case. That's an entirely valid opinion. Now learn to express it without questioning the intelligence, impuning the motivation or consistently misrepresenting those who might disagree with you.
30/09/2009, 3:31 PM
DeLorean

Well said TP, think you must have upset IFK in a past life or something:D or else Kevin Nolan did!!
30/09/2009, 6:12 PM
youngirish

Does anybody else think it's a bit sad that people are desperate to chase run of the mill English footballers to represent our proud and great nation?

Footballers who were never good enough to represent their home country and who have refused opportunites to represent us in the past?

I personally would much rather see us not qualifying for major tournaments than have 11 english players on the pitch in such tournaments with little or no affinity to Ireland.

It makes a laughing stock of our team on the international stage when it's full of England B players.
30/09/2009, 6:59 PM
Colbert Report

Close this thread please.
30/09/2009, 7:43 PM
Paddy Garcia

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Originally Posted by tiktok

It did plenty of harm to our underage structure if you ask me.
I don't think it's too much to ask that the National Team is made up of players proud to be there rather than the best reject team we could cobble together.

Someone like Kitson mentioned above deserves more credit than Cascarino in my opinion.

Interesting - but I don't think this is right. I think that team , and the success they secured, inspired at least one generation. And I believe they were all proud to pull on a green jersey- unlike some of our current home grown crop(see other very long thread - S Ireland).

If you want to take a look at what has harmed our underage structure - you could start with the - home grown & proud - manager of our U21's
30/09/2009, 7:45 PM
DeLorean

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Originally Posted by Colbert Report

Close this thread please.

If you don't like the coffee....stay out of Starbucks
30/09/2009, 9:37 PM
tetsujin1979

DeLorean, it's been done to death, on more than one occasion, I'd be in favour of locking the thread unless Nolan indicates that he wants to play for Ireland
30/09/2009, 10:15 PM
boovidge

Nothing new has been said and I doubt he will ever represent us but the fact remains that he is as available for selection as Robbie Keane or Richard Dunne and therefore a thread concerning him is entirely reasonable imo.
30/09/2009, 10:31 PM
DeLorean

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Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

DeLorean, it's been done to death, on more than one occasion, I'd be in favour of locking the thread unless Nolan indicates that he wants to play for Ireland

There are so many threads that I don't bother with, as I know by the title I have no interest. Fair enough, Kevin Nolan and Ireland isn't really a hot topic at the moment, but with the recent change to the international player rulings and the form of Nolan, I don't think it's that unreasonable that somebody would want to discuss it further. Even if I did, I would probably stay clear of the debate, not call for everybody to shut up about it.
30/09/2009, 10:43 PM
Acornvilla

well im available for selection too i want a thread!!
01/10/2009, 6:42 AM
ifk101

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Originally Posted by third policeman

.... who once upon a time was actually a member of an Irish international squad

You were not aware of this until tetsujin1979 posted his research into the matter and contrary to what you are suggesting, it once again highlights that Nolan doesn't want to play for Ireland.

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Originally Posted by third policeman

and is better than most of our other central midfield options.

"our" ;). I think we have at least 6 players that are better than Nolan (arguably more) and all 6 want to play for Ireland.

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Originally Posted by third policeman

Now learn to express it without questioning the intelligence, impuning the motivation or consistently misrepresenting those who might disagree with you.

My apologies Third Policeman. But it's quite simple; he's doesn't bring anything extra to the squad and, most importantly, he doesn't want to play for Ireland. He has had approximately a decade to demonstrate some interest in playing - which he has not. I don't need to question your intelligence, your motivation or misrepresent you as your continued posting on this matter demonstrate you are more than capable of doing that yourself.
01/10/2009, 10:44 AM
third policeman

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Originally Posted by ifk101

You were not aware of this until tetsujin1979 posted his research into the matter and contrary to what you are suggesting, it once again highlights that Nolan doesn't want to play for Ireland.

"our" ;). I think we have at least 6 players that are better than Nolan (arguably more) and all 6 want to play for Ireland.

My apologies Third Policeman. But it's quite simple; he's doesn't bring anything extra to the squad and, most importantly, he doesn't want to play for Ireland. He has had approximately a decade to demonstrate some interest in playing - which he has not. I don't need to question your intelligence, your motivation or misrepresent you as your continued posting on this matter demonstrate you are more than capable of doing that yourself.

Actually I was aware of Nolan's involvement in a previous Irish squad. I think you are confusing what I know with what you dont know.

Disregarding the ironic emphasis on the word "our" which I assume is another questioning of my "true loyalty to the cause". I would love to know who these six superior players actually are. You might also want to let Trapp know, because he evidently is not picking them.

And finally, I suggest you look up the meaning of the word apologise before you use it next time. As far as I can recollect it does not mean the futile repetition of the original slur.

I think our exchange on the issue of Nolan has run its course. If you want to pursue this spat can I suggest we find another channel that does not subject the readers of this forum to such inane point scoring.
01/10/2009, 10:49 AM
irishfan86

Nolan is a better player than any of our central options apart from S. Reid, and even that is debatable.

He was the key player that helped Bolton qualify for Europe under Allardyce, and has the ability to be a match winner.

Whelan, Andrews, Miller, and Gibson lack this ability to make an impact on games that Nolan has.

The issue is that he doesn't seem to feel Irish, and that's fair enough. But to claim that Whelan or Andrews are better players than Nolan is rubbish.

Nolan performed poorly due to injuries last year, but now that he is fully fit, his class is showing in the Championship.
01/10/2009, 11:19 AM
ifk101

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Originally Posted by third policeman

I think you are confusing what I know with what you dont know.

It's already been established that you know what your mate at work tells you.

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Originally Posted by third policeman

As far as I can recollect it does not mean the futile repetition of the original slur.

:D

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Originally Posted by third policeman

I think our exchange on the issue of Nolan has run its course.

That's one thing I can agree with you on.

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Originally Posted by third policeman

If you want to pursue this spat can I suggest we find another channel

Just use the ignore list option, thanks. :D

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