Another Full House At Tallaght

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Originally Posted by tipptops

Its fantastic alright but lets put Tallaght in context. It was built by the SDCC, who should be getting the bulk of the credit. They are the landlord and Rovers have no say whatsoever in the running of the stadium.

Bohs on the other hand own their stadium. I think you will find that a lot of the anger stems for the below obversation.

Bohs are like the man who went out and worked hard all his life, building up his family home and developing his family, always paying his way and living in his own house. He can choose to do whatever he pleases with his own property. He has a disdain for his neighbour who has none of his traits.

Rovers the neighbour who did nothing with the most of his life. Sold whatever assets he had and squandered the proceeds, refused to pay off his debts and ended up at the mercy of the courts of the land, where he wins an unexpected, unwarranted reprieve. He then applys for a council house, which he rents for way below the market price. He then feels the need to gloat about how well it has worked out for him while his neighbour struggles due to the recession.

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Haha, I think that's the most ridiclous post I've ever seen on this forum, and that takes a lot!!!

So what if they rent it?? My god you'd think it was a crime for a club not to own their own ground. Rovers haven't been angels in the past, but lets be honest, they as well as Drogs, Cork have taken advantage of the Examinership route and now they have something in place which looks like that it might break the normal LOI trend of crap stadia, crap marketing and crap management.

I bet you your house that the Bohs board would give their right hand to be in the position Rovers are now in. I mean sure isn't that what they wanted to do with the "Harristown project".

is that tipptops fella going on to every thread just trying to annoy people?

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Originally Posted by tipptops

Its fantastic alright but lets put Tallaght in context. It was built by the SDCC, who should be getting the bulk of the credit. They are the landlord and Rovers have no say whatsoever in the running of the stadium.

Bohs on the other hand own their stadium. I think you will find that a lot of the anger stems for the below obversation.

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Who's angry though? The rest of the league, or one club whose raison d'etre is to condemn SRFC?

That club don't own their own stadium, neither do Drogheda, neither do Cork, and a number of others. Are you going to criticise all of them, or begrudge us for finally having a home to play in?

Tallaght is an enormous place, even by Dublin standards. It's a huge football place. It wants and needs a team in the LOI. This year, it has it on it's doorstep, in the best ground in the league. Everything that fans want is there. They're unlikely to turn their back on us anytime soon.

What is annoying is the arrogance of the Shamrock people, especially since 90% of them are bandwagon jumpers, I admire the hardcore 600 fans they have and what they have done to turn their club around, but they do get preferential treatment by the media, referees, FAI, and government which the Shamrock people are slow to acknowledge

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Originally Posted by tipptops

Bohs are like the man who went out and worked hard all his life, building up his family home and developing his family, always paying his way and living in his own house. He can choose to do whatever he pleases with his own property. He has a disdain for his neighbour who has none of his traits.

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Including selling it twice :D

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Originally Posted by Knappagh Red

What is annoying is the arrogance of the Shamrock people

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Wrong

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especially since 90% of them are bandwagon jumpers,

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the hardcore 600 fans they have

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but they do get preferential treatment by the media, referees, FAI, and government

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Wrong

Maybe you'll get something right next time.

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Originally Posted by tipptops

Bohs are like the man who went out and worked hard all his life, building up his family home and developing his family, always paying his way and living in his own house. He can choose to do whatever he pleases with his own property. He has a disdain for his neighbour who has none of his traits.

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Perhaps you should look into the history of how Bohs came to own Dalymount Park. Maybe then you would realise how ridiculous your post is.

I feel myself that Shamrock Rover's upturn in fortunes has occurred since a group of fans seized control of the club from self serving blazers and started to run their business in a responsible and proper manner. I have no love for Rovers but they didnt have the option of selling the family silver to bail themselves out time and again. Where they are today may have some bases in the fact that their Brand is, like it or not, due to their history and tradition the biggest in LoI. Is it fair? Probably not but id take it if it was Dundalk not giving a damn what others thought especially Drogheda fans and i'm sure the Drogs would be of similar opinion..

58 mil and nice new 10000 capacity ground in exchange for Dalymount would have been nice for Bohs it is just such a pity that a plan like this was delayed by a whole lot of messing about until it bacame unviable:o

Your home attendance for the cup game last year was 1000, 350 of which travelled from Sligo, 50 neutrals = 600 Shamrock fans, hence my 90% bandwagon jumpers estimate, and your dismissal of the post I made just emphasises my point about arrogance

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Originally Posted by Knappagh Red

90% bandwagon jumpers estimate,

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Great! Keep the bandwagon jumpers coming to games and sell out grounds, sounds fine to me!

What would you say in the Showgrounds? Oi havent seen you here before...thats right first time here thought id see what the fuss was about...ok well get lost then....???

Lot of very bitter fans in this league, if the league was something to be proud of you'd understand but its not.

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Originally Posted by Knappagh Red

Your home attendance for the cup game last year was 1000, 350 of which travelled from Sligo, 50 neutrals = 600 Shamrock fans, hence my 90% bandwagon jumpers estimate, and your dismissal of the post I made just emphasises my point about arrogance

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Nothing to do with arrogance.

The North Dublin inner city isn't our catchment area, but anyway, the crowd number is best explained here

Miltown to Tolka must be nearly four miles away, what an arduous journey that was for all the little Shamrocks

God Almighty, this thread started as a celebration of a rare success story this year for the League of Ireland, to help show we've got the potential to replicate the Tallaght story in hopefully most if not all of the other LOI clubs in the months and years ahead.

I'd love to see all other club grounds packed out for every match for the good of the league, the clubs and supporters.

Can you imagine what that injection of support and cash would mean to all of us, if we stopped moaning and actually put plans in place to attract more punters to the games, we might actually get somewhere.

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Originally Posted by Drogman.

If they spent half of time trying to sort out their own club rather than looking for another bitter swipe at Rovers then they probably would be in a better financial shape at the moment.

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You might have a point if you weren't so happy slagging off "craptown" with the regularity of a man who has allbran for breakfast every morning.

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Originally Posted by BohsPartisan

You might have a point if you weren't so happy slagging off "craptown" with the regularity of a man who has allbran for breakfast every morning.

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I slag off Craptown purely for the fun, and not for any hope that they'll go under anytime soon.

I know what it's like to support a team who splashes the cash however real character comes when you come crashing down to earth and have to recover ;)

You'll know all about that soon enough I reckon.

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Originally Posted by Knappagh Red

Miltown to Tolka must be nearly four miles away, what an arduous journey that was for all the little Shamrocks

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I know, it only takes ten minutes down a bog road.

We're not too far off a situation where other clubs will refuse to have nice stadia and market their club properly "because that's what Shams did".

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Originally Posted by Knappagh Red

what an arduous journey that was for all the little Shamrocks

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When we played Sligo in Tolka this year, the place was a quarter full. When we played Real Madrid and Derry afterwards, Tallaght was sold out. Comparing Tolka to Tallaght is like comparing a tenement with a mansion.

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Originally Posted by mypost

When we played Sligo in Tolka this year, the place was a quarter full. When we played Real Madrid and Derry afterwards, Tallaght was sold out. Comparing Tolka to Tallaght is like comparing a tenement with a mansion.

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Look fair play to Shams filling Tallaght and long may it last, its all good for the LOI.
I think what other people are geting at is that this is a sucessful season for ye, theres a honeymoon period with the stadium and feel good factor with the club; yet the crowd wont travel down the road for a competitive game - the catchment area for that game should have nothing to do with it.
If their not sitting in their nice red, yellow, white or whatever colour seat for a game they didnt want to know. Every club can get their bandwagon supporters when the sun is shining, keeping them now thats the real challenge.