If your club went out of business...

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Originally Posted by White Horse

By the way, I'm not pointing the finger exclusively at Drogheda fans, it is now endemic in the league....the recent trend of copying yobbish English/Scottish football supporting habits is a terrible development.

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I'd disagree with that. I haven't found an 'endemic' hatred in the League at all. There isn't a club in the League who's fans I've haven't been able to have a pint with before/after a game (even including the Dubs ;)).

If you're referring to local derbies only, then I would say ourselves and Harps, whilst it's a big rivalry, it's only that, not hatred. Most Derry fans would have a soft spot for Harps, and would love to see them up.

As for 'being herded into a confined area' at away games, I've found that the only ground that has actually enforced segregation has been, strangely enough, Oriel.

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Originally Posted by brendy_éire

As for 'being herded into a confined area' at away games, I've found that the only ground that has actually enforced segregation has been, strangely enough, Oriel.

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I can't disagee with that. Our facilities for away fans are not ideal.

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Originally Posted by Lamper.sffc

Its a tough one. If fingal went then like lep I would find it hard to support another club I was shouting against. Since shels would be the nearest club to me and our main rival the last season and a half, it would be a definite no for supporting them. So maybe Bohs if they moved out this way in the future. (Hav nt had an oportunity to dislike them for any reason yet)

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Originally Posted by BohDiddley

I'd watch Bohs in the Fifteen Acres, and maybe cheer on Pat's against Shamrock.

Also, I'd move to north County Dublin, get elected/co-opted to the 'Fingal' co. council or whatever they're calling it then, and make it my business to end the political patronage of a franchise that has been entirely superfluous to needs in Dublin and probably has played a part in my club going out of business, not least because, somehow, they clearly have managed to persuade some 'Fingalians' that they are not Dubliners and that Dalymount Park is on another planet.

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And there it is:p

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Originally Posted by Kildare Lad

I see myself as much of a fan of the league as I am Kildare County and when clubs play in european competitions I find myself supporting them as if they were my own club, so if my club were to go out of business I would still like to support the league

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Same here.
If Rovers did go out of business though I'd probably find myself following Shams.

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Originally Posted by joema

Not always as easy as that!

Ye are lucky that enough people actually seem to care!

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Yeah I can understand that. I was just pointing out that I'd be making sure it didn't happen in our case.

Ye still have u20's don't ye?

They folded in the last week or so, according to posts on the U-20 forum.

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Originally Posted by BohDiddley

I'd watch Bohs in the Fifteen Acres, and maybe cheer on Pat's against Shamrock.

Also, I'd move to north County Dublin, get elected/co-opted to the 'Fingal' co. council or whatever they're calling it then, and make it my business to end the political patronage of a franchise that has been entirely superfluous to needs in Dublin and probably has played a part in my club going out of business, not least because, somehow, they clearly have managed to persuade some 'Fingalians' that they are not Dubliners and that Dalymount Park is on another planet.

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Be careful you don't fall BohDiddley. It's a long way dowm of your high horse.

What a pile of sh!te! So Sporting Fingal F.C are for fault we our in the brown sticky stuff. Nothing to with bad business management and over spending. We should get emu to be are club mascot. Cause just like the said say we seem to bury are heads in the sand.

What is it with northsiders chip on there shoulders with people from Fingal? Is it because don't live on benefits?

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Originally Posted by brendy_éire

As for 'being herded into a confined area' at away games, I've found that the only ground that has actually enforced segregation has been, strangely enough, Oriel.

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Perhaps I have it wrong, but my understanding was that it is an FAI directive that there is segregation of fans. Is this the case? Do some some clubs tend to disregard this and allow all supporters intermingle?

Ironically, when Derry came to Oriel early last month, while the normal segregation applied in the terrace, it was almost non-existent in the stands, which added significantly to the atmosphere.

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Originally Posted by BohDiddley

I'd watch Bohs in the Fifteen Acres, and maybe cheer on Pat's against Shamrock.

Also, I'd move to north County Dublin, get elected/co-opted to the 'Fingal' co. council or whatever they're calling it then, and make it my business to end the political patronage of a franchise that has been entirely superfluous to needs in Dublin and probably has played a part in my club going out of business, not least because, somehow, they clearly have managed to persuade some 'Fingalians' that they are not Dubliners and that Dalymount Park is on another planet.

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Im all for having a go at Sporting Fingal but this is laughable. Theres no way you can blame them for any part in your boards stupidity. They have an average attendence of what 650 so they cant have taken many of your fans. Oh and as somebody from swords I can honestly say i havent met a single person from the Fingal area who considers themself a fingallian rather than a dub.

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Originally Posted by Sunny Jim

I didn't hear the interview myself, but I was informed by another contributor to this forum that he stated that he's €40 million in debt and that there is a possibility that he could be declared bankrupt.

I would assume that if that were to happen, it would put an end to the Youths.

Maybe someone who actually heard the interview could clarify.

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That'd be a shame. I noticed the other day that Wexford's crowds have fallen a good bit this year. I wonder if they're a bigger burden this year than Wallace expected.

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Originally Posted by Mr A

Yes, but what if Harps had not folded along with Derry?

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Harps are City's smaller siamese twin.

If we died, there'd be no-one to provide you with cast-off players in the north-west any more.... ;)

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Originally Posted by marty

Been a Cobh fan we"re often linked with the club heading into the red but in fairness theres not many Cobh fans would start following City.Maybe if they were members run like Shams I could change but no way under their current regime

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same couldnt see myself cheering if city scored a goal

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Originally Posted by Cici900

same couldnt see myself cheering if city scored a goal

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It's strange how a club will grow on you though. When I started going to watch Bray, when I was 14 or 15, I considered myself a Stoke City supporter (My Dad's half of the family are all from Stoke), and I thought I was just going to watch some convenient local football. I never saw myself becoming a proper supporter, but now I'd identify as much with Bray as with Stoke, and would have a hard time choosing if they ever met in the Champions' League final.

Being in with the home crowd for a few games seems to rub off on people quicker than you'd expect. I've brought a friend from Balbriggan to a few Bray games. The first game he was cheering whenever either side did anything, and told me he just wanted to see good football. The last game against Galway was his fourth of the season, and he was as ****ed off as I was when Galway scored that last-minute winner.

Peadar makes a valid point there I think. I was going to the odd game here or there and taking an interest in the league before the Youths came along but never really got attracted to a particular team. I was definitely far more passionate at the Youths games than attending other teams, since getting a Rovers season ticket this year though I can feel myself getting more and more dragged into supporting Rovers and it's getting to the stage where I feel almost the same as I do at the Youths games I can make. It's a strange one, but there's definitely something to the fact that being surrounded by a passionate home crowd is infectious.

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Originally Posted by SunderlandBohs

Be careful you don't fall BohDiddley. It's a long way dowm of your high horse.

What a pile of sh!te! So Sporting Fingal F.C are for fault we our in the brown sticky stuff. Nothing to with bad business management and over spending. We should get emu to be are club mascot. Cause just like the said say we seem to bury are heads in the sand.

What is it with northsiders chip on there shoulders with people from Fingal? Is it because don't live on benefits?

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Health warning: contains references to actual Dublin geography/identity and may bore others.

Congratulations Alderman SB. You've got things a tad confused there, and gone off half-cocked based on a false opposition. Let me be clear: I am not saying that S. Fingal have any role in BFC's immediate problem.

If you're looking for someone to say that the immediate blame for the club's finances being in the **** lies squarely at the door of the old board, and its remnants on the new one, you'll find that my queue ticket is at least as low as yours.

Now we have that little ritual out of the way, I might point out that that doesn't mean that Sporting Fingal has no impact strategically on Bohemians. Are you really of the view that the league needed another Dublin club that defined itself geographically in opposition to other Dublin clubs, and most of all Bohemians, which is the only native northside club? What an utterly stupid idea that is, from the point of view of league and clubs both.

If you have any brainwaves that will translate into a mere regular 650 increase in attendances (cited by our Galway friend supporting the south Dublin team currently resident in Tolka Park) I'm sure the club would be ecstatic if you would communicate it to them post-haste, even if half of that were to go to Shels. That would be more constructive than taking in a few Fingal games to practice for the day when you are indeed left with no option but to call them your local club.

As for the chip, your assertion that most Bohs fans are on welfare is noted: will you join in that Fingal chant when we have our first 'derby' with the franchise? You seem to be quite keen on the idea of 'Fingal' as a separate entity. But, as a former resident of Malahide, I can echo Galway Red's experience, when he says, '... as somebody from swords I can honestly say i havent met a single person from the Fingal area who considers themself a fingallian rather than a dub.' . Nor have I ever met a single person who describes him or herself as being 'from Fingal'. Perhaps you'll be the first.

Anyway, shouldn't you be off shopping for your Ipswich shirt?

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Originally Posted by BohDiddley

Health warning: contains references to actual Dublin geography/identity and may bore others.

Congratulations Alderman SB. You've got things a tad confused there, and gone off half-cocked based on a false opposition. Let me be clear: I am not saying that S. Fingal have any role in BFC's immediate problem.

If you're looking for someone to say that the immediate blame for the club's finances being in the **** lies squarely at the door of the old board, and its remnants on the new one, you'll find that my queue ticket is at least as low as yours.

Now we have that little ritual out of the way, I might point out that that doesn't mean that Sporting Fingal has no impact strategically on Bohemians. Are you really of the view that the league needed another Dublin club that defined itself geographically in opposition to other Dublin clubs, and most of all Bohemians, which is the only native northside club? What an utterly stupid idea that is, from the point of view of league and clubs both.

If you have any brainwaves that will translate into a mere regular 650 increase in attendances (cited by our Galway friend supporting the south Dublin team currently resident in Tolka Park) I'm sure the club would be ecstatic if you would communicate it to them post-haste, even if half of that were to go to Shels. That would be more constructive than taking in a few Fingal games to practice for the day when you are indeed left with no option but to call them your local club.

As for the chip, your assertion that most Bohs fans are on welfare is noted: will you join in that Fingal chant when we have our first 'derby' with the franchise? You seem to be quite keen on the idea of 'Fingal' as a separate entity. But, as a former resident of Malahide, I can echo Galway Red's experience, when he says, '... as somebody from swords I can honestly say i havent met a single person from the Fingal area who considers themself a fingallian rather than a dub.' . Nor have I ever met a single person who describes him or herself as being 'from Fingal'. Perhaps you'll be the first.

Anyway, shouldn't you be off shopping for your Ipswich shirt?

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Let me guess? You haven't got a girlfriend?

I didn't say Bohs fans get welfare cheque, I said northsiders do. No, I won't be joining in that chant because I'm a Bohs fan and SFFC don't have any fans.

And whats wrong with saying I'm from Fingal? I know people from Drogheda who say they're from Meath. In Gods eyes we're all one and the same. He doesn't see any borders. I might start my own liberation party mind, The Fingal Popular Front. Fight for a free County Fingal. End Dublin County Council Rule!

You're a very angry young man who needs help. Seriously man, I'm worried about you!

As for the Ispwich Town shirt joke. That's just genius! I never heard that one before. Did you make that up yourself?:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Hairy Bowsie

I'd stop supporting domestic football.

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Originally Posted by SunderlandBohs

Let me guess? You haven't got a girlfriend?

I didn't say Bohs fans get welfare cheque, I said northsiders do. No, I won't be joining in that chant because I'm a Bohs fan and SFFC don't have any fans.

And whats wrong with saying I'm from Fingal? I know people from Drogheda who say they're from Meath. In Gods eyes we're all one and the same. He doesn't see any borders. I might start my own liberation party mind, The Fingal Popular Front. Fight for a free County Fingal. End Dublin County Council Rule!

You're a very angry young man who needs help. Seriously man, I'm worried about you!

As for the Ispwich Town shirt joke. That's just genius! I never heard that one before. Did you make that up yourself?:rolleyes:

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Sorry. I don't feel that much anger about this, really. I just feel we don't need Sporting Fingal. And I'm actually not planning the move to Swords wheeze to get elected! Thanks for the 'young' bit, though.

I also apologise for the cheap Ipswich line, compounding Fingalian outrage with Sunderish. That also was a little jest. It's completely irrelevant and I childishly threw it in because you said my post was ****e. You're right: lots of people have made the same observation. Have you seen the Danger Here job on it? Just in case...;)

http://www.dangerhere.com/wp-content...NpAdvHover.jpg


Anyway, you still haven't actually said, 'I am from Fingal'. Are you?

If the Blues died, I might completely give up following football. Indeed, they are most of the reason I make trips home to Ireland, to be honest, so I might give up coming back to Ireland too...

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Originally Posted by White Horse

I suppose I'd start going to see local junior clubs. I couldn't see myself supporting another LOI club.

I'm old enough to remember a time when quite a few Dundalk fans (particularly those from Ardee/mid Louth) looked out for Drogheda as a second team due to them being from Louth. My Dad and I used to go to United Park when Dundalk were playing in Cork, Limerick, or places quite far away.

However, in the last 20 years, Drogheda fans started this whole anti-Dundalk thing that has alienated Dundalk fans.

Now I wouldn't go near the place.

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I agree with that .I know older heads who used to go up and support Dundalk when you were involved in european games ( many moons ago ) :D but wouldnt attempt to step foot in the place now because of the hostility displayed toward them . And to say Drogheda fans started this whole anti Dundalk thing is a bit rich tbh . Its quite evenly matched by Dundalk supporters as far as i can see .And some of the most anti Dundalk supporters i know are from the mid louth / Dunleer area .And by the way you would be most welcome in utd pk by any right minded supporter and ive seen a few ( Dundalk fans ) up there in the last few seasons .