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15/01/2009, 10:06 AM
Dodge

The reaction from Galway fans is absolutely pathetic. A complete overreaction.

Kenna agreed to go back and changed his mind and went for what he felt was a better deal. Its happened to every single club here on an almost yearly basis. You really need to get over this.

As for Leeson's comments, from what I'm hearing there's a little bit of face saving going on there as people in pats say that negotiations went well with Galway and there was never a hint of animosity. One person I spoke to said that there was an understanding between Leeson and Kenna that Kenna could move if he got a better offer before the end of January. Foster was offered a deal at Pats but on less money than he's getting at Galway.

Standard LOI bull**** from both sides I'd imagine
15/01/2009, 10:08 AM
GuisaSaigon

The only pathetic thing about this is behaviour of Kenna and Sadlier.
15/01/2009, 10:17 AM
R�iteoir

Jeez - it's like a pub in Galway in here - all that bitter

Echo what Dodge said - a slight overreaction from some on display
15/01/2009, 10:18 AM
Conor H

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Originally Posted by Dodge

The reaction from Galway fans is absolutely pathetic. A complete overreaction.

Kenna agreed to go back and changed his mind and went for what he felt was a better deal. Its happened to every single club here on an almost yearly basis. You really need to get over this.

As for Leeson's comments, from what I'm hearing there's a little bit of face saving going on there as people in pats say that negotiations went well with Galway and there was never a hint of animosity. One person I spoke to said that there was an understanding between Leeson and Kenna that Kenna could move if he got a better offer before the end of January. Foster was offered a deal at Pats but on less money than he's getting at Galway.

Standard LOI bull**** from both sides I'd imagine

Possibly the most inaccurate and nonsensical post ever on this forum.
15/01/2009, 10:21 AM
Dodge

Really? and you've heard from both sides? You take Leeson at his word? As I said complete overreaction to a standard LOI move

Yeah I'd be annoyed if it was the other way but some fo the stuff posted here is ridiculous
15/01/2009, 10:24 AM
WoodquayBoy

I wouldn't believe Leeson if he said Galway United played their home games in Terryland, but if you fail to see why United fans are aggrieved at Kenna's behaviour, that is a problem with your perspective, not ours
15/01/2009, 10:30 AM
Conor H

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Originally Posted by Dodge

Really? and you've heard from both sides? You take Leeson at his word? As I said complete overreaction to a standard LOI move

Yeah I'd be annoyed if it was the other way but some fo the stuff posted here is ridiculous

There was nothing standard about it Dodge.Pats approach was illegal.People stating that it was "only a verbal agreement" clearly don't realise that a Contract has various stages to it,of which many can be deemed to make it binding.
Jeff was bound under "Intention to create a Contract",he was also receiving a wage thus making him an employee of UTD.

If Fozzie had left with Jeff we would have been very much up the creek without a paddle.I cannot understand your trivialization of the move for the life of me.
15/01/2009, 10:32 AM
Dodge

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Originally Posted by WoodquayBoy

I wouldn't believe Leeson if he said Galway United played their home games in Terryland, but if you fail to see why United fans are aggrieved at Kenna's behaviour, that is a problem with your perspective, not ours

I've already said I can understand the frustration and annoyance but some of the stuff here is over the top. And the stuff being posted on the Pats forum is far worse.
15/01/2009, 10:34 AM
Dodge

Quote:

Originally Posted by Conor H

There was nothing standard about it Dodge.Pats approach was illegal.

90% of moves here are illegal. You think clubs contact clubs first when they want to sign a player? Get real...

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If Fozzie had left with Jeff we would have been very much up the creek without a paddle.I cannot understand your trivialization of the move for the life of me.

Its trivial because it happens all the time. Loads of deals/agreements are made and people go back on them. its annoying but life goes on. Galway would've got a manager in without too much fuss as there are plenty of people who'd love that job.
15/01/2009, 10:35 AM
gufct

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dodge

The reaction from Galway fans is absolutely pathetic. A complete overreaction.

Kenna agreed to go back and changed his mind and went for what he felt was a better deal. Its happened to every single club here on an almost yearly basis. You really need to get over this.

As for Leeson's comments, from what I'm hearing there's a little bit of face saving going on there as people in pats say that negotiations went well with Galway and there was never a hint of animosity. One person I spoke to said that there was an understanding between Leeson and Kenna that Kenna could move if he got a better offer before the end of January. Foster was offered a deal at Pats but on less money than he's getting at Galway.

Standard LOI bull**** from both sides I'd imagine

Well im afraid you should check your Pats source. Animosity is a gentle word compared to the reaction from our board on Tuesday at 4pm when Ian Foater rang to say that he was the only one on the bus from Shannon.Why would Galway start paying Jeff from the 19th of December when his new deal was agreed if he could just walk out the door.

Pats have got the manager they deserve as far as im concerned youse are perfectly matched.
15/01/2009, 10:38 AM
GuisaSaigon

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Originally Posted by Dodge

I've already said I can understand the frustration and annoyance but some of the stuff here is over the top. And the stuff being posted on the Pats forum is far worse.

Yeah like

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Its fairly ****ing obvious what happened, and my patience is wearing think with all you think ****ing mulchies who just don't get it.

I wonder who posted that tripe?
Kenna and Sadlier have shown how little class they have. They are welcome to each other.
15/01/2009, 10:45 AM
Dodge

Yep, I'm less diplomatic on that site. But the point remains, I'm sick of your bleating. Get over it
15/01/2009, 11:00 AM
maroon ultra

If it was the other way around it would be interesting to see how Pats fans and Dodge would react. Not much different I would imagine. Of course its an overeaction, its called being passionate about our club. I would be more worried if no one gave a toss, but obviously up in inchicore ye dont understand this. It wont be long before he does the same to ye, the man has no integrity.
15/01/2009, 11:03 AM
Rory H

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dodge

Yep, I'm less diplomatic on that site. But the point remains, I'm sick of your bleating. Get over it

Get over yourself in fairness
15/01/2009, 11:04 AM
Rovers1

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Originally Posted by Dodge

Get over it

no YOU get over it....you!:)
15/01/2009, 11:11 AM
Dodge

Quote:

Originally Posted by maroon ultra

If it was the other way around it would be interesting to see how Pats fans and Dodge would react. Not much different I would imagine. Of course its an overeaction, its called being passionate about our club. I would be more worried if no one gave a toss, but obviously up in inchicore ye dont understand this. It wont be long before he does the same to ye, the man has no integrity.

In fairness its happened to us before with boht managers and players. As I posted ona different thread recently we're far more cynical than most fans. We know that badge kissers are arseholes and nobody has any loyalty to anybody but themselves.
15/01/2009, 11:13 AM
brianw82

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dodge

The reaction from Galway fans is absolutely pathetic. A complete overreaction.

Kenna agreed to go back and changed his mind and went for what he felt was a better deal. Its happened to every single club here on an almost yearly basis. You really need to get over this.

As for Leeson's comments, from what I'm hearing there's a little bit of face saving going on there as people in pats say that negotiations went well with Galway and there was never a hint of animosity. One person I spoke to said that there was an understanding between Leeson and Kenna that Kenna could move if he got a better offer before the end of January. Foster was offered a deal at Pats but on less money than he's getting at Galway.

Standard LOI bull**** from both sides I'd imagine

Get off your high effing horse, Dodge.

Kenna showed his true colours by going back on his word to Galway, and their supporters have every right to be annoyed. You can say 'standard LOI behaviour' all you want - that doesn't make what he's done any less wrong. You wouldn't see Paul Cook leaving SRFC in this fashion, no siree.

At least Foster seems to have some integrity in him, and I wish him well next year. While I don't think many neutrals will be sad for Kenna if he crashes and burns at Pats.
15/01/2009, 11:18 AM
Dodge

Cook interviewed for the Shamrock Rovers job. He'd leave Sligo in a heartbeat if he got a better offer. Foster would leave galway tomorrow if he got a btter deal. Thats how football works

Seriously, get real folks.
15/01/2009, 11:24 AM
Rovers Maniac

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Originally Posted by Dodge

Cook interviewed for the Shamrock Rovers job. He'd leave Sligo in a heartbeat if he got a better offer. Foster would leave galway tomorrow if he got a btter deal. Thats how football works

Seriously, get real folks.

I can't help but think this is all because of the betting scandal your players we involved in ! Good honest integrity seems to have gone out the window in Inchicore.
15/01/2009, 11:24 AM
Bunny Kelly

I'm with Dodge on this one, are people really that naive to believe any player/manager feels for a club the way a supporter does? It's the way football works, there is nothing new about it so just get over it

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