PFAI Believes Drogheda Can Remain in Premier

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Originally Posted by higgins

That league title means nothing to me.
If the FAI were to rule against it then so be it!
At this stage it's unlikely and I'm not sure under what rule they could do that.

These days they do have rules regarding non payment to players and I suppose could impose points deductions for that offense but then we'd have deductions for Cork Cobh Finn Harps Bray Drogheda Athlone Kildare and probably more.

Simple facts are tiktok that the same rules applied to Shels are no longer being applied to other clubs. Considering the rules that were brought in after the Shels case it's strange to say the least.

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Ah jeez do really read over what you type before posting?

Its all boo hoo lets pity Shels, they were a model club but because the League and everyone involved in it hates ye they made up new rules just to p!ss you off.

Finn Harps deffered the players wages, the players were in agreement with the club and all money has been paid back, no drama in that department.
I can't speak for other clubs as I don't know their situation.

Ive got to say this and proberly setting myself up for a hammering but this phrase of deffering payments as if its some kind of buisness speak when in reality is not been able to met its financial obligations while players have very little real say in it.

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   /ˈmɜrsəˌnɛri/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [mur-suh-ner-ee] Show IPA Pronunciation
adjective, noun, plural -nar⋅ies.
–adjective
1. working or acting merely for money or other reward; venal.
2. hired to serve in a foreign army, guerrilla organization, etc.
–noun
3. a professional soldier hired to serve in a foreign army.

"sex injury" - an injury gained while performing a sexual act

whats not to understand?:confused:

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Originally Posted by tiktok

You're a creditor, you'll get the same % as the other unsecured creditors.
If they haven't paid for him I don't see why they should hold his registration though, Sligo should be challenging this and expecting him for pre-season training.

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[QUOTE=tiktok;1076433]If, as an unsecured creditor, you agree to accept the % that DUFC will offer, then payment of that % will settle the transfer fee. That'd be my understanding of it, I don't think the High Court would allow you status as a preferential creditor over the revenue or the others DUFC owe money to.[/QUOT

It has nothing to do with the court .Wages and Football related debts (Transfer Fees,Affiliation Fees & Fines) are sacrosanct in the licencing process.

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Fair enough. (And if you look back at my previous posts on Drogheda and Cork, that's my suggestion too).

But then there's a gap in the First with no A Team to fill it.

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Kildare can fill it if they are successful in their application.
We were, seemingly, instructed by the league to apply for a first division licence.
BTW at the moment there are no clubs in any division.
All clubs are rated or seeded by the league position after the final day. Licencing can alter the positions.
We are currently rated #23.

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Originally Posted by diamond

mer⋅ce⋅nar⋅y
   /ˈmɜrsəˌnɛri/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [mur-suh-ner-ee] Show IPA Pronunciation
adjective, noun, plural -nar⋅ies.
–adjective
1. working or acting merely for money or other reward; venal.
2. hired to serve in a foreign army, guerrilla organization, etc.
–noun
3. a professional soldier hired to serve in a foreign army.

"sex injury" - an injury gained while performing a sexual act

whats not to understand?:confused:

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Is this meant to be a response to me? :confused:
Well thats great. Except I asked you to "Please elaborate on how exactly he is a "Mercenary". Not "Please copy and paste the definition of a mercenary".

You might want to read posts fully before you reply to them in future. Or even better, try and be able to back up the nonsense you post.

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Originally Posted by tiktok

If, as an unsecured creditor, you agree to accept the % that DUFC will offer, then payment of that % will settle the transfer fee. That'd be my understanding of it, I don't think the High Court would allow you status as a preferential creditor over the revenue or the others DUFC owe money to.[/QUOT

It has nothing to do with the court .Wages and Football related debts (Transfer Fees,Affiliation Fees & Fines) are sacrosanct in the licencing process.

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You're right, the licencing should look at the situation between clubs alright, but is the next level of challenging licensing to bring the Licencing Committee to the Hight Court. Back to the venue where successful examinerships were heard.

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Originally Posted by Kildarefan;

Kildare can fill it if they are successful in their application.
We were, seemingly, instructed by the league to apply for a first division licence.
BTW at the moment there are no clubs in any division.
All clubs are rated or seeded by the league position after the final day. Licencing can alter the positions.
We are currently rated #23.

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You're on the list, that's got to be a good thing. You're on the list.

Back on topic - am I the only one who says 'so what' when the PFAI express a view on whether or not Drogheda can survive ?

Seriously - how intimate is their knowledge of Drogheda's circumstances ? On what substance is their view based ? :confused:

It may as well have said 'man in street says Drogheda United will be ok'.

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Originally Posted by higgins

It's clear you hate Shels Dodge but for the record Shels came to agreements with all their creditors and paid revenue in full and were still demoted.

If the same rules still apply then Cork Drogheda Cobh Finn Harps and Bray should be demoted.

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Where have I said different? Even on this very thread I've said that Drogs should be treated the same way as Shels (if they have outstnading wages due)

Not saying you didn't Dodge.

Everyone seems to be in agreement that Shels were correctly demoted. I agree we should have been demoted by the way.

However!

There's a lot of talk here about Jan 31st deadlines and having agreements in place by then. It's annoying that people feel that they can mess up as bad as they like for 364 days of the year but once you have everything right on 31st Jan you're ok!

That's not the way it should work in my opinion.

The clubs I've already mentioned have done the exact same as Shelbourne. In fact Cork and Drogheda have taken it a step further by wiping debts!! Legal as it may be they did gain an unfair advantage and will carry that advantage into next season.

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Originally Posted by passerrby

Ive got to say this and proberly setting myself up for a hammering but this phrase of deffering payments as if its some kind of buisness speak when in reality is not been able to met its financial obligations while players have very little real say in it.

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Again, I can only speak for Harps in this regard, but the deferral was done with the FULL AGREEMENT of the players. They agreed to the deferral with the guarantee that all monies would be paid at the end of the season. They received all deferred monies once the season had ended - as agreed between the players and the club. Granted, it's not the ideal situation but it was done in consultation and with agreement of the players.

BTW there's absolutely nothing in the rules about sanctions for clubs who cut wages