Great to hear he's steadily recovering - just hope he's not rushed back too soon.
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Great to hear he's steadily recovering - just hope he's not rushed back too soon.
McCarthy likely to miss Arsenal game
http://www.wigantoday.net/sport/wiga...lash_1_2941705
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IT’S looking increasingly likely that James McCarthy’s eagerly-anticipated return from injury will have to wait at least another week.
Latics’ Republic of Ireland international midfielder has been out of action since October when he damaged medial ligaments, and was stretchered off in the 1-1 draw against Bolton Wanderers. It had been hoped that a return to first-team action for McCarthy might materialise this weekend at Arsenal, but Latics boss Roberto Martinez now doesn’t appear so hopeful.
He said: “James is such a delightful character, he’s been desperate to get involved and his recovery has gone well. He has worked really hard behind the scenes, he’s begun training with the group again even though there are certain aspects of the game that he can’t join in with yet. He’s not far away, but the Arsenal game is probably looking a little bit too early for him."
“We need to make sure that when a player has been away for a long time you must be 100 per cent so as to avoid any risk of re-injury. That’s where we stand with James, but it is great to see his real quality back with us in training.......”
Bruce take note.
Indeed.
Made the bench today for Wigan v Arsenal.
Article from today's Indo about the chance of McCarthy making our next squad.
http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...t-2507993.html
Stoke the Ireland squad controversy fires! McCarthy starts to tonight for Wigan.
McCarthy starts tonight not in squad. Foley out for another week at least in squad.
there are questions that need to be asked at this stage. Someone is not telling the whole story.
About 25 minutes in he showed some great skill to beat a defender near the top of the area, gave it to Rodallega who couldn't finish but it was a nice move. Was mixing it up with Nigel Reo-Coker earlier as well.
the excuse for his exclusion from the current squad doesnt add up at all. Yes he is just coming back from injury, but if Trap had done his homework he would have known he was close to his comeback and there are still 2 weeks before the game which is plenty of time for him to build up his fitness. O Shea only came back at the weekend and he is included.
To be honest Ive become very cynical and disillusioned with Trap since the Russia game and decisions like this arent helping. Ive said in the past that there isnt a hope in hell of McCarthy declaring for Scotland again.... the way things are going I wouldnt be nearly as confident
Yet another howler on Trap's part. Fed up with him at this stage. Hopefully someone like Chris Hughton will be in soon.
Question: If David Meyler starts for Sunderland this weekend (he won't, I've heard no news that he will, this is completely hypothetical), will people be campaigning for his call up and criticising Trapattoni for not including him?
Ah well I went to the shops at half time and Wigan are 0-2 down when I got back.
Seemed pretty even first half so I don't know what happened, McCarthy and Dunne seemed to be having good games.
Bit irrelevant here but Nottingham Forest and winning :D
Looks like they are going up this year on current form!!
Yes, as it indicates an absolute lack of awareness about the state of your players. Most people are as anxious to have Meyler in the squad as they are to have McCarthy there. The McCarthy issue is different though given the fact that he may revert to Scotland.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
What is your opinion of the anomalies in the selection of the squad Tets?
and he's just pulled one back for Wigan
I dont see what ur point is. Meyler is injured and has no hope of a call up.McCarthy is fit with 2 weeks to get even fitter before the game. As I write he has played over 80 minutes and has scored tonight. He is one of best prospect for years and one of our best Premiership players at the moment full stop. His inclusion should be a given.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
The mystery deepens. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
He has just scored :D
Took a big deflection, but it was on target and I think he can claim the goal.
I think Trap has Scottish roots & is doing all he can to return young James.
stick that in your database tets. :p ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
Who needs him though when you can have Paul Green.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
As I said yesterday McCarthy should be included if only to gel with the squad and get familiar with the surroundings,he is by far our best prospect and the only starting prem midfielder week in week out until his injury.
The lad has had to face the wrath of a nation for declaring fur us yet Trap cant even invite him to train with the squad and
check his progress over the next couple of weeks . Its total negligence on his part if we were to lose McCarthy (I don't think we will) but this only adds fuel to the fire and aids those who would try to persuade him to reverse his decision. Unacceptable
actions of a man who doesn't seem to care about our long term aspirations
As I said yesterday McCarthy should be included if only to gel with the squad and familiar with the surroundings he is by far our best prospect and the only starting prem midfielder week in week out until his injury.
The lad has had to face the wrath of a nation for declaring fur us yet Trap cant even invite him to train with the squad and
check his progress over the next couple of weeks . Its total negligence on his part if we were to lose McCarthy (I don't think we will) but this only adds fuel to the fire and aids those who would try to persuade him to reverse his decision. Unacceptable
actions of a man who doesn't seem to care about our long term aspirations
Trap is going to get hammered by fans and journos asking for the real reason McCarthy is not in the squad. There is no footballing reason McCarthy can't start for us in two weeks time. None. If a new manager came in tomorrow (and I mean any manager) they would have McCarthy starting in central midfield come the Wales game. Name me one other manager who would leave McCarthy out of his squad and then continue with a midfield of Green and Whelan? Oddball Givens type stuff.
I'm clamoring for some degree of consistency or transparency in his selection policy. The fitness thing doesn't hold water when in the past he's included off the top of my head Andrews, Foley O'Shea and Duff whilst they were injured or had fitness issues. (The seniority of O'Shea and Duff can be argued as justification I suppose). I'm sure there's more examples though. We have to be seizing opportunities to look at other options in what are weak areas.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
It appears to me that Trapp's alienating a very talented young player who operates in a position we're weak in. I hope he can justify it in some form.
He's played the whole non comittal "We're monitoring his progress" card before.
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Originally Posted by Noelys Guitar
There is he doesn't fit into the system. can people really not read between the lines, as mentioned before?
What do people make of "he can play as no. 10", "we will continue to follow him"
Seriously?
James did not make himself available for selection.
Can you provide a source for that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Colbert Report
First names terms...the suspense is killing us.Quote:
Originally Posted by Colbert Report
i wouldnt hold my breath. Its the second or third empty yet definitive statement that CR has made in this thread with no source or reference.
Yeah, no harm to you CR, but the succession of flimsy assertions that McCarthy has switched sides is starting to p!ss me off. Either provide a source/evidence/some slight hint that this is the case or get off the pot!Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
“It’s too tight,” Trapattoni said of his decision to leave the 20-year-old out. “He only just returned from injury the other day.”
So no indication he had made himself unavailable for selection, if he has he certainly has not told Trap.
I would not believe 100% of what CR posts, and I have my doubts about the second 0 in that statement.
I have lost all patience with Trap's refusal to see that James McCarthy is the best central midfielder that we have available to us. He should have been capped against Andorra to tie him to Ireland for ever, and avoid losing him to Scotland. He is in a different league to the likes of Green, Whelan or Andrews and should be one of the first names on the team sheet. Craig Levein will try and get McCarthy to change his mind and play for Scotland, and we could lose one of the best midfield prospects since Roy Keane if we're not careful. Trap also shouldn't be calling up the likes of Kilbane, McShane, Green or Keogh, when there are clearly better alternatives out there. We haven't got a huge pool of talent to draw players from, so it is disgraceful that Trap continues to ignore the likes of McCarthy, Andy Reid, Delap and Ward.
I wouldn't - Meyler's just back from a serious injury and has already broken down. It would be risky - and probably reckless - to include him. Hypothetically obviously. McCarthy's said nothing to indicate he would switch and maintained his commitment. The risk is there, but is more speculative than probable surely?Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
I'm devil's advocating here - cos I'd love to see him in the squad - but McCarthy's just back from a three month lay-off from a particularly nasty ligament injury. Most of the above instances involved knocks (Andrews, Foley) or were senior established players (O'Shea, Duff) so don't see them as comparable.Quote:
Originally Posted by dr_peepee
i think you're right SvD. Foley is a good example - he's recovering after a short layoff. Picking McCarthy for this game wouldn't tie him anyway.
Given that he's clearly fit enough to play and score in the EPL he's obviously fit enough to play a game in 2 weeks. If he was to be injured again though, both he and Wigan would be furious. It's very frustrating but it looks like McCarthy won't figure in this campaign until the very late stages at best.
The insistance that Coleman is a full-back only beggars belief.
That and the insistance that McCarthy is a type of Steven Ireland type who can only play behind the front man. Anyone who has watched him consistantly knows how good defensively he is too. Proper box to box midfielder.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
Spot on post Fitzy. Trap's stubbornness is now bordering on a serious mental disorder. There is a well know tendency for football mangers to make perverse selections in order to demonstrate their genius and ability to see what the rest of us cannot possibly perceive. This is simply not tenable for us given the unfathomable gulf that separates our best most / promising players from the medocrities who are selected in their place. The omission of McCarthy (following numerous previous snubs) is a gross dereliction of professional responsibility by Trapp and a potential disaster if he decides to defect to Scotland.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fitzy
I share that sentiment/frustration except I don't believe for a second that McCarthy will switch to Scotland. Not too long ago he had a courtesy meeting with Levein, politely declined his offer and shortly after released a statement reassuring Irish fans of his commitment. Not a single mumble of discontent from the lad and in fairness, he'd be entitled to one. A class act. Even if he does feel shunned by Trap, I reckon he'd be prepared to wait the Italian out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fitzy
However my concern that Trap was punishing McCarthy for resting himself has been replaced with the prospect that he doesn't see him fitting into his notorious system. That would be hugely worrying.
Cop on Razor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
Trapattoni said: “McCarthy can play right, left. I saw him two or three times. I’d like to ask him which position he likes. He can play behind the striker, sometimes left, sometimes right — we need to look at his quality and personality.
“Sure he has talent — like Rivera, Mazzola, they became very great with experience. They had good quality. It’s important when this personality develops. He’s fast and confident on the ball. He could be important for us."