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Originally Posted by Raheen
The premier spot is being filled by Galway who avoided the playoff, which leaves one less team in Division 1, even including Salthill.Quote:
Originally Posted by blue til i die
Premier-10:
Bohs
Rovers
Cork City
Dundalk
Sligo
St Pats
Galway
Drogheda
UCD
Bray/Fingal
First-Currently 11:
Bray/Fingal
Shels
Waterford
Monaghan
Wexford
Limerick
Athlone
Mervue
Salthill
Harps
Longford.
Leaving 1 spot free in Div 1-luckily for Derry.
Jesus, this league is confusing! :D forgot UCD existed there for a minute!
This is a mental day. Press conference underway now. Probably won't get any clips from it before I start work at six - another day of checking the laptop at the end of the bar.
Why Derry though, what about Tralee and all of them? Can't surely just be Derry's spotQuote:
Originally Posted by micls
Im sure they can all apply for it, but Id be shocked if anyone but derry gets itQuote:
Originally Posted by christo
Certainly no-one's questioning the current Derry City side's place in the First Division, but if a new entity was formed, what's the difference between them and Cobh's demotion last year?
I wonder will the F.A.I. pay Swifts the £30k from the €80k prize monies withheld from Europe and 4th place?
I'm happy for the Derry fans in here.
On the downside,though, two trips to Derry per season is going to be a huge cost to many First Division clubs who are already struggling to pay match-day expenses.
Paul Diamond said on Radio Foyle that we would "hopefully" get the spot. The way he said hopefully, sounded like he meant definitely.Quote:
Originally Posted by micls
Delaney speaking now. "Road map to get Derry back is worked out". Basically confirming First Division - "An aspiration that Derry will be there"
Down to Wellvan to decide what they do. Wellvan now split from the club completely. Delaney urged them to pay off their debts (paraphrased).
Delaney: "Future extremely positive" :D
Technically Delaney cant say ye have it as the process is independent but realistically its yeres.Quote:
Originally Posted by pól-dcfc
It's our someone-else's-problem field. Mainly, we use it to hide the ducks.Quote:
Originally Posted by blue til i die
Can someone clarify/have a good guess on what basis we keep the name?
Id imagine Wellvan are 'selling' it to the new company.Quote:
Originally Posted by thischarmingman
On the upside Philly Derry have massive travelling support and if the Derry side is competitive and winning, Derry Supporters will follow their side in numbers so in 1st you actually have a side that has decent away support. I imagine the 1st has lacked any good away support since Dundalk got promoted last seasonQuote:
Originally Posted by Philly
Derry City will rise again like the phoenix from the ashes and hopefully it will be sooner rather than later
I'd tend to agree with Pol, well pleased about having a club for next year but as someone on our forum wrote today:
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It now seems that the winding up of Wellvan will be the final, inevitable conclusion to a catastrophic period of mismanagement.
With it goes the hope of all the local suppliers who dealt with Derry City. The very fabric of the community they claimed to come from. They've been shafted. So have Dungannon Swifts, maybe Linfield. Players, management, office staff, the taxman, **** knows who else.
I'd say any form of respect will be very thin on the ground for years to come.
As Jinxy said the away fans they will bring will compensate and as it is we go to Finn Harps once or twice a year and its not that far from there, so its pretty much the same costs. Rather it than travelling to Cobh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Philly
yea hopefully there in finn park twice next year. nice gate!:D
I reckon Derry will be back competing with Rovers for the premier division title within 3 years and will probably be one of the financially soundest clubs by then, with a complete clean start, come the start of next seaon Id imagine the club will have a huge amount of goodwill just like Rovers got this year and all the negatives are likely to be quickly forgotten.
And this isnt a fudge???
Derry are over their heads in debt. What to do? Get the board to resign, go into administration, say sorry to their staff and other creditors and restart all shiney and new in the First Division.
Now what about the punishment for cheating. The players seem to be the only ones punished.
All Derry get is LOI football avoiding the A league and a clean bill of health.
Fudge?? What fudge??
do they not get a points deduction for going into administration??
The punishment will be with the directors, as per normal company law and as it should be. I still maintain that they should be happy if they avoid jail.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kildareman
I wouldn't have thought so - the legal entity previously trading as Derry City is defunct.
The new Derry City isn't in administration, so cannot be docked points.
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Originally Posted by SkStu
The winners of Drogheda -v- Fingal fill the premier spot. So its derrys spot in the 1st division.
The punishment is they got relegated (I know technically they weren't "relegated" but that's what the bottom line is when all is said and done) Ask Shels and Dundalk how hard it is to get out of that division. Instead of getting to play european football next season Derry will be playing in places like Jackman Park. That is definitely a punishment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kildareman
That's harsh considering we won our playoff match. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by gufct
Derry were relegated / thrown out of the league.Quote:
Originally Posted by Candystripe
They didn't finish 4th in the final table as amended following their expulsion
They're not entitled to the €80k.
Having said that, if Frank And Irene set a precedent in bailing out Cork .................
Derry City is dead.
We are now Derry city.
With a small c. In Times New Roman font as opposed to Arial.
And we'll revert to our old crest as nobody liked the new one anyway.
Sorted.
I think thats what Candystripe was hinting at.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buile Shuibhne
From our point of view that's a point, specially as our lot now always overnights on treks that long. We're due only one journey to Finn Park in 2010 as we had 2 this year, so I'd imagine we'll get 2 to the Brandywell if it comes to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Philly
And despite Derry's sizeable travelling support, I don't think they'll travel to the RSC in numbers big enough to compensate (yes I'm well aware it'd be a lot more than we'd bring the other way! :D).
But...
What would compensate a little is the increased home gate for the reverse fixture. Other than Wexford, Derry would no doubt be the top draw in the division for us (unless Cork are there too!), and with all due respect to a team I always liked, would bring in a lot more casual Blues fans than Kildare.
Would that be the case with other D1 sides (other than Harps of course :))?
Don't get me wrong, having Derry 3 games next season will be great but, if there is no points deduction then what's to stop the likes of Athlone, Longford, Cobh and Harps going into liquidation, cleaning the slate and re-entering into the 1st Division under the same name? Sure we could all benefit from that.
All for Derry coming back, it's of great benefit to Harps gate receipts BUT proper order would be entry into the A league.
Is it fair though?Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenforever
I might be wrong but did Cobh not go into administration last year?!Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam_Heggy
i'm sure if longford did it wed loose the stadium? i have no idea just makes sence to me in my own world :D
This was posted elsewhere...
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Originally Posted by lamb
It will be interesting to see if the permission Derry City had from the IFA to play in the LOI is as easily transferred from one party to another especially with monies outstanding to at least 3 Irish League clubs.
has it not been repeatidley stated before that derry no longer need th IFAs permission on that matter?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_Parker
Issues were different in Cobh but in fairness I dont think we were guilty of some of the mentioned above..Ah well
So has anything actually been officially confirmed that Derry City will operate under the same name and in the first division next season?
Why do Derry have to retain their membership of the IFA?Quote:
Originally Posted by Acornvilla
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Originally Posted by Mr_Parker
Do we?