if garrison towns were the only places that should have LOI clubs then sign Fermoy F.C. up.
though that club was only formed in 1927 so no good I suppose
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if garrison towns were the only places that should have LOI clubs then sign Fermoy F.C. up.
though that club was only formed in 1927 so no good I suppose
Practically large Irish Town had a garrison in the peiod from 1900 to independence, I remember an ordanance survey map of Tralee showing a massive barracks, funnily the Barracks in Sligo was closed in 1906 and was small by comparison. In fairness to Shelly River he puts "Garrison Town " not Garrison Town the former use, is often a pejorative used by GAA types about certain towns, it means that the scum of the dregs of the British army left their filthy seed there and this is proven by the popularity of "Soccer" in those places. An example of a rural rather than an urban myth I suppose.
Luckily its only been 90 odd years since the foundation of the state. In another 30 or 40 we can maybe stop trying to blame the LOI's failings in the British army...
The traditional big Irish port towns and cities of Dundalk, Drogheda, Dublin, Wexford, Waterford, Cork, Limerick, Galway, Sligo, and Derry provide 9 out 10 teams in the PD and 15 out of 21 overall. Off the top of my head the non port teams have only 5 FAI cups and 2 league titles between them. Athlone aside none of the other larger Irish towns without a port, Kilkenny, Tralee, Clonmel, Carlow for example have featured much in Irish Football, Kilkenny now has larger urban area than Sligo but no football team, the others mentioned have never been involved at all, so population size is not the deciding factor. It is possible the Port towns were a little more cosmopolitan and open to outside ideas. The ports in some Irish towns were quite large, Sligo for example had a mile of working quays for a population of maybe 15K and once had a substantial trade with the River Plate.
I am not saying that this is true but it is a good a theory as any other. There is also a theory that the percentage of LOI supporters versus the general population in any town is inversely proportional to ratio of horses to people on the local authority housing estates. This theory is supported by ISPCA statistics, but is for another day.
Maybe you could re-start the trade by signing a few of their now relegated players?Quote:
Originally Posted by redarmyfaction
BTW, Fenit is considered the port for Tralee. It's on the same bay, only 5 or 6 miles from the town.
Interesting line of thought...
Spot on.Quote:
Originally Posted by redarmyfaction
Off topic I know but 593 in Tolka last night
Shels attendances have been poor this season. I know the weather was poor Friday but I couldn't believe we couldn't even get 600 against Athlone when we're flying in the league.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nah Nah Nah Nah
535 I think was called out at Galway v UCD last night.
Must do an update in the next couple of days as well actually.
That was the attendance for the league cup quarter finalQuote:
Originally Posted by TiocfaidhArmani
EDIT - actually don't know why I replied as he won't be able to reply back!
615 at Waterford United v Longford as per extratime.ie.
1300 given for Dundalk v Bohs
What was the attendance in Monaghan last night minus the cows
(and no not those lovely ladies in the Pink jerseys :blowkiss:)
548Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
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inlcuding 5 Cork City fans and 1 Finn Harp(s) fanQuote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Bray's three recent home games against Bohs, Dundalk and Sligo had similar crowds of between 1,100 to 1,200 at each with good away support for all three.
In Dundalk's case it was the railway that was the source of interest in football, not the army barracks.Quote:
Originally Posted by redarmyfaction
Ireland had a huge railway network at the beginning of the 20th century. The building of that network was a huge task and involved bringing in thousands of skilled workers from England and Scotland. Those people are the founders of many of our clubs.
4,014 seems to be the official attendance from Rovers - Pat's. Seemed like more.
yeah, a good bit more. The away end was extended by about 10 rows as Pats fans with home tickets were initally told to stand "near your own fans". Most estimates had our crowd at about 1,000 (the 700 allocation was sold out by Thursday)
Both sides of the opposit stand had a fair bit of space in them but I had presumed most were crowded in the middle.
About 500 at Harps v Cork.