I don't know if I'd call that bitter though. And I've no problems acknowledging that Drogheda are almost certainly playing a bit of the béal bocht alright.
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I don't know if I'd call that bitter though. And I've no problems acknowledging that Drogheda are almost certainly playing a bit of the béal bocht alright.
James McManus on loan to Sligo. Pretty good deal for all parties- hopefully he's playing ever minute and returns to us like Cian Byrne.
Think Byrne will be staring at CB with Cornwall. Flores back to LB.
Agreed on both counts. Bucko getting minutes ahead of McManus is giving a whiff of farewell tour for Bucko and I don't think that's going to change any time soon so better to let McManus get minutes under his belt. Then Kavanagh just has too many mistakes you wouldn't expect an u20s player to make and Lacey is just on the treatment table all season. The place is there for Byrne to win. In saying that I though Morahan played very well at CB vs Rovers but I want to see him in midfield again with Devoy and Tierney or ClarkeQuote:
Originally Posted by Bohtastic
Apparently James Clarke is heading to Grimsby - he's out of contract in November so maybe a case of Bohs getting whatever they can for him.
I'd rather we got nothing for him at the end of the season than let him go now. Have to think it'd only be a nominal fee now anyway.
Define nominal fee because 20-30 Grand probably covers wages for 1 or 2 additions in the summer window and frees up Clarkes wages as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by RealJohn91
10k or less. Clarke is one of our best players at the moment, getting Europe with him and the rewards that will bring is better than a short term little boost of funds.Quote:
Originally Posted by Another Bohemia
Paul McMullan leaves Derry. I always liked him. Always put a shift in, even if there wasn't always a great deal of end product.
https://www.derrynow.com/news/derry-...feMEfQ-OatAmag
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Originally Posted by Another Bohemia
Fair comment but the problem is you are letting a provan asset go to bring in a couple that may or may not work out.
That being said if the one of the replacements was for a provan LOI player like DJT who could play as an out an out 9 as opposed to Clarke in a false 9 it would make sense.
Would hate for Clarke to go- imo he's the reson why Devoy and Tierney have been so influential recently. Don't think it's a coincidence that our upturn in form occurred when Clarke got more starts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jolly Red Giant
Declan McDaid following JR Wilson to Dundalk it seems. Kilduff also said they won't be signing McGlade. I'd have been shocked if that one had happened
Shocked they've signed McDaid, he was carrying some gut at Athlone this seasonQuote:
Originally Posted by MoydowMonty
Norwich City seem to have lined up several summer signings for their development squad, including Derry City's teenager, Glenn McCourt (nephew of ex-Celtic winger Paddy McCourt).
www.pinkun.com/sport/norwich-city today
Apparently Bogs have an announcement coming at 11.00am tomorrow. I hope it's a striker who can convert 20% of chances so we can win 4-0
Its what isnt said also, added to how they have commented on things in the past. They should be thanking Bohs copiously for signing any of their people!!Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Agree Clarke is one of our best players. I don't think he's so significant that he makes or breaks Europe for us. We've created chances all season and need someone to convert them, Clarke is a lot of things and my favourite current Bohs player but he's not a prolific goal scorer which we need. I also think you get more than 10k for him. That release clause that Dyer had was shocking and I'd be a bit disappointed in it if I was a Galway fan. There wasn't even a provision that a team in the league couldn't activate it, hence Derry's interest so I don't think it can be used as a basis for any other fees. I think realistic for Clarke is about between 15 and 25 Grand right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by RealJohn91
He's been put through the paces on training pre signing I heard, glad we didn't go for McGlade though.Quote:
Originally Posted by outspoken
Yeah I heard he's already got himself back into shape but he's never been consistent.
Bohs have signed Douglas James Taylor. That's a good signing, that was at 9.00am and yet they advertised something for today at 11.00am. Is there more???
It’s Bohs X Oasis merchandise apparently. And no I’m not even joking :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Shinkicker
I’ve seen Anto Breslin linked with a move back to Bohs. I think a lot of Pats fans would be happy enough with that to be honest. He was a solid full back in years gone by but his performances and attitude this season have fallen off a cliff and he’s on a long term deal. I’d even say Pats would be happy enough to let him go without a fee just to get him off that long contract, which is something that’ll have to happen with a few more lads too. The last time he played was at home to Shels in what was one of the worst individual displays I can remember in recent years from a Pats player, before being taken off at half time and dropped from the squad for the following game in favour of Jay McClelland who’s had the left back spot ever since even though he’s not a full back, such has been the performances of Breslin and Kazeem this year
Surprised he wasn't held back until the shirt.
2 year contract, you may disapprove, but without Keleher's, O'Doherty's or Desmond's backing fundraising, and Jersey sales are central to the club's progression.
Outside of the Jersey that is all but confirmed since it was in the news update on the radio this morning I believe some players have had contract extensions as well so might hear some of those today.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shinkicker
His form this year would be concerning if there wasn't a few pats players who's form has fallen off a cliff from last year. Could be a situation where a change of scenery is a good fit for both parties.Quote:
Originally Posted by 2 Year Contract
Totally understand that and Bohs make good money doing it, fair play to them. But that doesn’t mean the rest of us can’t laugh at Bohs linking themselves to every non football related topic they can find and sticking it on merchandiseQuote:
Originally Posted by Bohtastic
Yeah that’s fair. There are plenty of lads in this Pats squad that need to be let go but also will probably do well at the next club they’re at because the ability is thereQuote:
Originally Posted by Another Bohemia
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Originally Posted by Bohtastic
I've seen the jersey stuff called cringe and embarrassing but if you watch the LOI regularly I dont think a jersey should even register as embarassing. Clubs need to raise money to pay players & staff, build academy facilities and plenty more. You can raise money many ways but this works for Bohs
I think people are allowed to snigger that Bohs, despite advertising themselves as a left-wing club, are hyper-commercialised and are willing sell anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by Another Bohemia
You have to wonder do Bohs really have 'values', or are these 'values' just the best way to generate revenue.
Nearly all clubs walk-the-walk when it comes to being community focused in LOI. Bohs have just milked that to create revenue (and fair play to them).
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Originally Posted by Kiki Balboa
Well we live in a commercial world, whether we want to or not we all have to participate in it, including Bohs. I dont want to support any Isreali settlements for example but its impossible for me to know exactly where everything I buy to live comes from and even harder to know who owns the various companies I buy from or where these companies invest. So Bohs can either play the commercial game and raise money for good causes while doing it or sit back and hope that revenue solely from fans and sponsors is enough to keep the club going. Thats not the case so things like this will be done to drive revenue so the club can be sustainable. As for values the Bohs partnership Jerseys have raised funds for Palestine, Bohs in the community and Bohs Pride comittee just this season. This Oasis Jersey follows suit its a split 50/50 profit with Bohs getting 50 %, 25% going to Music Generation Ireland and 25% going to Irish Community Care manchester. Raising money for good causes & investing in communites seems pretty left wing to me. Add to that the Jerseys are made in the Oneills factories in dublin so lower carbon footprint etc, the usual woke nonsense :D
When you say Bohs have milked it you are correct, and yes Fair play to them. We don't have a sugar daddy and have to create our own finances. Most sugar daddies end up being the downfall of clubs in Ireland. With that in mind Bohs give a percentage to various causes linked to the shirt. Aslan-hospice, Marly - Marly foundation and so on. If we could only keep full revenue from one of these we would probably be the wealthiest club in the land but that's not the case, therefore we restrict ourselves and make do. You have to say there's a nice ring to each of these Bob Marley, Thin Lizzy, Aslan, DC Fontains and Oasis. A better ring than the Corrs or the Mary Wallopers. Would you wear a Corrs Jersey?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiki Balboa
Unfortunately for the clubs environmental officer, the aul carbon footprint arguement goes straight out the window when it’s the 6th jersey the club have released this year alone (home, away, third, normal GK jersey, Guinness GK jersey, Oasis Cup jersey) that are shipped all over the world. It’s pretty much the exact opposite of a lower carbon footprint. UCD to their credit have an amazingly low carbon footprint in terms of merchandise and its distribution I would imagine ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Another Bohemia
I don't think its a case of milking' anything - just a reality that Bohs have to generate reveune from somewhere. They can't run up a debt and they don't have a wealthy owner to carry the can for overspending. On top of that the club is going to be homelss once the redevelopment of Dalymount Park begins and that will put a significant financial burden on the club - they need financial reserves. I do think that a fourth (excluding goalkeepers) jersey this year is probably a bit much - but you don't have to buy it if you can't afford it or don't want to (and half the profits of the latest one is going to charity). Given that Oasis are trying to generate a bit of hype as well - it benefits both.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiki Balboa
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Originally Posted by 2 Year Contract
It would if every Bohs fan bought every jersey, every year. Most buy a home or away Jersey and a good portion only buy them every other year. Id wager that a few hundred or thousand Jerseys that go to the far flung corners of the world would still mean a lower total footprint than shipping in thousands of Jerseys from Bangladesh and then shipping them all over the world.
Anyways, back to football, I see Trivela have shown another example of how not to run a football club…
https://x.com/betweenstripes/status/...869055676?s=46Quote:
"Mistaken belief that Walsall would be due significant compensation if James-Taylor joined a club outside England led to misplaced confidence that he wouldn't join a rival club in LOI."
I mean, this exact scenario happened to Drogheda when James Brown went to Blackburn a few years ago and they weren’t entitled to any compensation as he was also over 23. Crazy not to know this stuff as an owner of multiple football clubs
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Originally Posted by 2 Year Contract
These lads must have hired people from the American equivalent of Fossets Circus to run their clubs because they are complete clowns
Well, I don't have to wonder.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiki Balboa
Not much revenue in prisoner outreach, joint initiatives with Intellectual Disability services support for asylum seekers.
Not exactly Revenue friendly initiatives, which I am proud that Bohs have initiated.
That other issues around Palestine etc happen to chime with the views of a good chunk of the population is great, but again, no exactly a revenue friendly subject.
The music tie ins, I couldnt give a f..ck about, and if they generate revenue to support ongoing community and human rights and climate projects, I am fine with that.
Plus , as a certain aged man I am swooning at the cameo role played by Paul Weller in the video launch today.
As a way to offset the inevitable financial hit they will take if/when they leave for the ground redevelopment ,it's a prudent move.
As for weller and quo-asis involved,the less said the better,but it appeals to a centre type of individual I guess.
The kneecap guy wearing the shirt at Glastonbury would surely be seen as better exposure but then what do I know about the vacuous corporate mind.
On the actual football front Taylor could be a decent acquisition for them
Plus the nonsense by Trivela telling Drogs fans they would make up the 525k euro loss, so effectively 1m down now, no way that was happening, otherwise they would have easily met DJT demands.Quote:
Originally Posted by Another Bohemia
Said it at the time, I'd be fuming if I was a Drogs fan with their owners, they had 6 months to prepare for the unlikely event that the Danish club would not also make europe and did almost nothing but hope the other club wouldn't make it. No point blaming UEFA for that fxxx up.
Desmond put in 2 million about 6 or 7 years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bohtastic
European money and transfers in that period are around 15 million and the members have raised probably around another 2m .
Thats not counting Gate reciepts and Sponsorships.
Desmonds money is not whats keeping the club going.
Never suggested it was, or never meant to. Mind you, if the finances went south I'd imagine you'd have Desmond or Ray Wilson to lean on. Also,Quote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
2 million isn't exactly small change, no? Hence the jerseys.