If it saves having to deal with the English media at the next window, it makes sense straight away.
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If it saves having to deal with the English media at the next window, it makes sense straight away.
Contractual Obligations? This is getting very Monty Python now.
I've heard definitely not Carsley and that it's not someone well know or from the usual UK/Ireland manager pool. I haven't gotten a name, but it might well be someone that hasn't even been mentioned in the thread. If that's actually the case then it's a real testament to how little is leaking out of the new FAI.
Is it the guy who in his 1st year of management has his team top of the league and in the knockout stages of Europe? Has 148 International Caps and 68 Goals. He was also captain of his country, so he knows the international game well.Quote:
Originally Posted by passinginterest
DuffMan
Hearing that it's Chris Wilder and the delay is for contractual reasons so that he can finish up his rescue mission at Sheffield United.
5-0 down before half time tonight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eirambler
Also ~ Sheffield Utd and Burnley are already relegated ~ OK, not officially but well there is miracles and there is miracles ! !
That was a joke Sean, by the way!
The consensus across the Irish papers this morning seems to be that it's Carsley, but that it won't be confirmed until after the March international period.
If it's in the papers it must be right...Quote:
Originally Posted by Eirambler
You'd think it has to be Carsley or there would be some leaks or other ( about other ) ~ ~ There must be no udder ! !Quote:
Originally Posted by Eirambler
Well they're speculating the same as everyone else. But the hints given away by Canham at the press conference basically mean it's either him or a complete left field candidate that nobody has mentioned before now. Who else is in contract in March but potentially out of contract in early April? Poyet I suppose, but I'd be amazed if it was him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
I agree with you, I'm convinced it's Carsley and have been from the beginning, I was just being a smartar$e about all the crap that has been in the papers. The Bilic one in particular was laughable when with a quick search anyone could see he was still under contract for a year. I'd say a lot of papers will be looking for new sources in the FAI after all thisQuote:
Originally Posted by Eirambler
Duff getting a dig in at Kenny and praise for Kerr, very interesting to hear.
https://www.independent.ie/sport/soc...226637044.html
John O'Shea is available once his existing contractual arrangements for March are completed.
Seems to be a few lining up to have a subtle dig at Kenny these days. Canham said something yesterday about being in regular contact with Kerr for about a year while Kenny was still the senior manager as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Exgrad
I wonder, when Kenny inevitably takes another League of Ireland job at some point in the next few years, will it be better for the likes of Duff and Bradley for him to fail. Because I guess, if he is successful again at that level, it doesn't make them look too good in terms of their potential to succeed at a higher level.
O'Shea mentioned yesterday that it was Canham who suggested Kerr's name when they were discussing staff for this window. Interestingly enough it was a year ago that John Morling left his role with the FAI.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eirambler
Would assume Canham got in touch with Kerr back when Morling left the FAI. If they've been chatting this much that Canham suggests him to O'Shea then I won't be surprised if there's a role for him with the FAI beyond March.
https://www.the42.ie/lee-carsley-ire...17971-Mar2024/
Carsley not moving according to David Sneyd
Have to say, whatever happens from here, the Irish football press pack - rarely the most on the ball it must be said - have been played for absolute fools throughout this. Carsley must have been ruled in and ruled out about three times each now, and I wouldn't be surprised if there's another spin round the houses still to come with him. We've been told that it's going to be Lennon, Coleman and Bilic at different points, possibly Clement too. They've also linked Poyet, Barry and Rowett with the job at various stages too. And now the FAI are basically telling them that they've got their man, and between them the journos still can't get a decent lead on who it actually is. Wouldn't be surprised if it ends up being literally none of the names they've thrown out so far.
If it’s not Carsley, it strikes me as someone who is contracted to a club till the end of the season - or who has an out clause at the end of the season.
Starting to worry it might be Robbie…
Also think it'll be Robbie Keane. The Israeli season ends in a few weeks and their European run will end during April.
The interim staff also make sense as being his staff.
Maybe I'm being pessimistic or something but the lines around existing contractual obligations ending in April make him stand out.
Israeli season runs until the end of May. League splits after the regular reason with the top 6 playing each other twice again.
Relieved to know I was incorrect there. Thanks for clarifying!
If Robbie was managing in Iceland rather than Israel would ye be more inclined to give him credit for the job hes done this season. Even if you want to dismiss the league, he has his team in knockout stages of europe against Olympiakos this Thursday too. Hes done incredibly well for a 1st season in management.
Agree completely. I think only Gavin Cooney and Dan McDonnell come out with any credit. Both have been willing to say all along that they havent got a clueQuote:
Originally Posted by Eirambler
Not the best example to use when the Icelandic league is ranked below the LOI and Faroe Islands league. Only ranked one place above the NI league.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
I picked it coz it began with I more than anything else :)Quote:
Originally Posted by JR89
I just don't think people want to give him credit because it's Israel, and I get that. We can all agree without getting into politics that what's going on there is beyond disgusting. I just think if Robbie was doing this well in any other league he'd be getting major plaudits
Without getting too much into politics. He’s clearly done well from a footballing perspective, not enough to warrant getting the Ireland job this early but he’s done well. But it’s a long way from demonstrating he can do it at that level…
I said when he took the job that I didn’t think it was right to take a job there (and that was before October 7th). So I would be very against him taking over now.
I also think there’s a chance that the likes of paddy mccarthy etc are the back room team for the next manager but they’re starting now…
I agree that the back room for these games are it going forward most likely, would make sense if everything is set up.Quote:
Originally Posted by elatedscum
And for the most part I'd agree that it's probably too soon for Robbie but when we are talking up Anthony Barry, who has even less experience, Robbie should be a bigger part of the debate IMO.
In an ideal world Robbie wins the league this season and moves on to a different country.
It's the 16th ranked league in Europe. Not great, not terrible. I think I've been giving him exactly the right amount of credit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
Should he not get extra credit for getting his team to this stage of Europe? Finished ahead of a Belgian team in his group that would be regarded as a much stronger league? If he beats Olympiakos should he get more credit?Quote:
Originally Posted by John83
Personally I think his achievements are being slightly ignored because we don't like that he took the FAI money and he took a job in Israel.
We don't have too many managers doing well in world football, I just think it's a bit of a shame that Robbie is not being talked about more
Cooney retweeting the Sneyd piece in a way that looks like he is backing it: https://twitter.com/gcooney93/status...PvBkVZouQ&s=19Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
Worst part of all this is that there are 3+ weeks of this.
Assuming Sneyd has a bang on source, "not expected to take" as a headline is hardly an emphatic rule out of Carsley. Does the article say who doesn't expect him to take it?
I'm sure there are plenty self-assured Englishmen in the FA who would be more than willing to share their opinion that they would never expect anyone sane to leave a paying job at the home of football to take over the Eire senior team.
This is going to run and run.
I'm assuming Carsley will have a press conference or 2 in the run up to the game on the 22nd. I would hope he's asked directly if he's planning on staying or leaving. If he diverts questions instead of saying "I'm absolutely staying" then we should know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Olé Olé
Could go down to the wire and deliver another massive shock, a la Big Jack.Quote:
Originally Posted by Olé Olé
It's a good result. It doesn't carry a huge amount of weight in isolation, but hopefully it's part of a bigger trend. It may speak to your point though that I hadn't heard about it until your second last post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
Big Sam it is so ! ! !Quote:
Originally Posted by Snapshot
Hopefully not, mo chara geal. On a tidy little junket, two FAI officials toured Britain in their search to replace Eoin Hand. Some big-name candidates were briefed. What could possibly go wrong? Well, Jack got the job.Quote:
Originally Posted by seanfhear
" Put Em Under Pressure ! "
https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2024...eland-manager/
Kerr saying he doesnt expect it to be Carsley, but he "could be wrong".
Its beyond stupid at this point. Let it just f'ing end one way or another!
Our problem is we are relying on the FAI, who are unreliableQuote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg