The Leinster Council aren't known for common sense but my god this is a great move.
https://www.rte.ie/sport/euro-2016/2...soccer-croker/
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The Leinster Council aren't known for common sense but my god this is a great move.
https://www.rte.ie/sport/euro-2016/2...soccer-croker/
Great stuff. Common sense.
Im a big sports fan in general and the Rugby has given us a lot to shout about in the last few years, but there is genuinely nothing like the outpouring of passion in the country when the International football team does well. Nothing even comes close to it.... you would think that it would lead to more people actually giving a crap about developing youth structures etc!
Common sense but let's not get away from the fact it is completely self serving.
Ah give over.Quote:
Originally Posted by MeathDrog
There are those of us out there, like myself who have a situation ahead on Sunday which is now made somewhat easier by this decision.
If you cannot see that this is self serving first and foremost then you must not know the ins and outs of the GAA well enough. Don't be so naive.Quote:
Originally Posted by BonnieShels
Where was the GAA's common sense when Laois and Armagh were playing during the Ireland v Belgium game last week. The only difference this time is that there are thousands more expected at the game and they're charging 30 quid a pop (which is too much). And as always it's the players who are given the least regard, none of whom can enjoy what is the country's biggest sporting occasion in 14 years.
I have also heard that a nearby county board had league fixtures fixed at the same time as the game last night. Deliberately done as a clash to test loyalty as always and afaik one of the teams didn't travel so fairplay to them.
So what if there's a selfish bent to this decision? I never said there wasn't. You just jumped in with whinge about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by MeathDrog
It's not uncommon for the GAA to stage the All-Ireland Championship during the summer. And only the most incredibly optimistic would have thought that the Dublin-Meath match would clash with an Ireland QF given how the draw went and how our build up was.
Is it not better that they did this or would you prefer if they tried to test mine and others' loyalty? All sporting organisations are self-serving. So why wouldn't they suit themselves?
The players playing inter-county ball know the deal. Stop playing the violins for them.
And your anecdote about this nearby Co Board; so what? If they decide to be shortsighted let them. The players who said "f**k that" should be commended.
There are some who will criticise the GAA no matter what they do, that they are seeing sense in Leinster is something to be praised.
And re ticket prices: yeah, 30bills is too much, but that's a separate argument.
I hardly jumped in with a whinge. I made a statement of fact which you ended up agreeing with anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by BonnieShels
The possibility of a clash is not the problem. It's the principle of why they have moved the Leinster semi finals and not done the same last week which is the point I'm making. The Laois and Armagh game was deliberately fixed at the same time as the Ireland game.
Put it this way. If Kildare and Westmeath was a stand alone game in Croker on Sunday then there is absolutely zero chance it is moved. It is purely a commercial decision. I don't think they're terribly worried that the likes of me and you get to see the full Ireland game. That is secondary.
My anecdote about the county board is relevant because it shows that the GAA are not concerned about the national interest as a whole. Clashes with soccer games are a common occurrence especially in the later stages of Champions League games etc. not to mention junior soccer games.
The players lose out. Simple as. They produce the product for the GAA to cash in on and they miss out on a massive sporting occasion to boot. Talk about a double whammy.
This guy really doesn't get it. An utterly ridiculous article.
Ciarán Murphy: GAA doesn’t really need feed of pints to have a good time
Like there's any comparison between being in a foreign country for a few days and making a day trip (by car!) to the Connacht semi final. I could compare a regular soccer qualifier in Dublin to a Kerry v Cork clash in Killarney too, to emphasise the extreme p!ss head nature of the GAA.
Is he really saying that GAA fans don't drink before/after games, or that it's just him that doesn't?
If people want to add to their experience of something with a drink, who cares? Some people don't need GAA/rugby to have a good time. So what? It doesn't make anyone a superior or inferior person just because they enjoy different things differently. What a stupid "article".Quote:
Originally Posted by DeLorean
Is that the gimp from Galway who hosted Second Captains on RTE2?Quote:
Originally Posted by DeLorean
Dear God, the stink of piety in that. 'Drink as a concept' - it's like a filler piece in a student mag.
One of the worst pieces I've read in a long time.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeLorean
Incidentally the drunkest people I've seen at sporting events have all been at GAA games.
Murphy is behind Ken Early and McDevitt by some distance on Second Captains.
I've been to two of the live shows, Murph's by far the most comfortable on TV, but going on that, he's the worst writer of the three
I haven't read the last 20 pages but could a mod close the thread now we know definitively the original intention of the thread is nonsense.
Thanks
You can't just close Stutt's favourite thread Dodge. :)
Maybe just change the title as it's not really just the popularity of the various sports that are discussed on here, but more the perceptions, values, hypocrisies, etc.
it's an ongoing debate, so I'm not going to close the thread
open to suggestions on a new title - "Comparison between attitudes to football, rugby and GAA"
What about "Spare me the moral sanctimony of non-football fans"? :)
non-soccer fans*Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
'The beautiful game, bogball, stick fighting and egg-chasing beauty contest'?
There are lots of gimps from Galway, only slightly outdone by Mayo.Quote:
Originally Posted by IsMiseSean
No hold on they are well outdone by mayo.
How about "Stutts' favourite thread"?
Murphy is from east Galway, bad crowd over there. Back in Connemara we're all perfectly normal & sound.Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
Football vs rugby in Wales. Discuss.
I saw there was a new post in here and I knew it was you and I knew that that was the post.
You could say I felt it in my gut.
Anyway, just before Wales v Slovakia Dean Saunders was saying Wales was a rugby country. He got slaughtered for it, people on social media saying outside a few towns footy is more prevalent. Cardiff and Swansea each turn over more pa than the WRU and their attendances dwarf all but the national rugby team. Pro rugby in Wales draws poor crowds. I was in north Wales on holidays recently and saw little evidence of rugby. All the public parks had football posts.
And in Bordeaux I was having breakfast in my crappy airport hotel the morning after we lost to Belgium and I was explaining the Euros to an elderly New Zealand couple on holidays in Europe. The bloke, a giant of a man, was saying all the kids in NZ are playing soccer now. I asked was it because of the injuries and his wife said yes, her grandkids are playing football because so many teenagers are walking around school on crutches all the time.
Interesting times.
What about "3 Games that we all secretly admit aren't a patch on hurling"
Or even... "3 Games that we all secretly admit aren't a patch on the way 3 teams play hurling"
Patricians versus plebians versus bogmen!
It's one of the worst and most sanctimonious articles I've ever read. I've lived in the shadow of Croker for over 23 years and the amount of boozing that goes on when there's championship games on is at in industrial level regardless of who's playing. He was in France on a day trip and has the definitive word on the fans experience? Laughable. There's plenty of old codgers who go to their local LOI fixtures and don't have a drink, same as those that go to local GAA games. Absolutely embarrassing article although I think it's deliberate click bait. None of the second captains lads are as clever or as knowledgeable as they'd like to think. Baddiel and Skinner with a student union twist.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeLorean
I drank in France. But rarely drink in Croker and I'm there from Feb to Sept. Never drink in Tolka. And never at Lansdowne Road (cos it's nigh on impossible), though I bagged a pint v Switzerland just cos it was Good Friday (thanks DeL). I drank watching Ireland v Italy in Lansdowne in the 6N mostly because I had a hangover that knew my name. I also went to the pub to watch Ireland v Italy in the Euros.
There's nothing at all at ant point that will indicate that the sport I watch will decide that I'll be having a pint or not and to suggest that it is the sport is a load of the proverbial.
Murph has been the one I missed from the old OTB crew for their GAA coverage cos Woolly annoys me.
Wooly has gone. He's decent on GAA but terrible on everything else.Quote:
Originally Posted by BonnieShels
Woolly will be on the joe.ie GAA podcast starting soon
My own experience of drinking at games is that I'd rarely do it, but mainly because I usually drive to the Aviva, and I usually have work the morning after. There's regularly a garda checkpoint on my route to work, and they haven't stopped me yet, but sod's law dictates it will be the morning after I've had a drink at a game. If it's a Friday/Saturday game, I'll have a drink after the game, it's even rarer that I'd drink before a game.
I think the only time I did have a drink after a midweek game in the most recent qualifiers was after the second leg of the play off.
Too soon ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by BonnieShels
It's a bit more measured and thought out than Ciaran Murphy's nonsense but it's like the Irish Times have some sort of agenda going on. There's no doubt the fans milk the reputation they have but, seriously, so fecking what? The contradiction, I find, is that these begrudgers are so paranoid about other ways we might be viewed, as a nation, that they feel the need to accuse the fans of being desperate to be viewed in a certain way. They don't get the irony that they're the ones with the hang ups and insecurities. Just live and let live ffs.
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/irela...ment-1.2707519
I really fail to see the point of that Frank McNally article.
And anything that mentions "lack of segregation" really annoys me. Segregation wasn't required in almost all of Euro 2016 games, just as it wasn't required when we hosted Poland, for example, last year. But segregation adds to the spectacle of a big football natch. Football fan culture is an extraordinary and fascinating thing, in all its guises.
I had noticed he hadn't been on of late. But clearly missed that memo when he left. Mick's first poaching eh?Quote:
Originally Posted by MeathDrog
How long is he gone?
Mick's gone to balls.ie, Woolly's gone to joe.ie. Mick had a week long farewell culminating in his last crappy quiz, probably because Ger Gilroy owns balls.ie, whereas Wooly was put straight on gardening leave. Think it was about 3 weeks ago?Quote:
Originally Posted by BonnieShels