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10/02/2022, 9:43 AM
ifk101

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Originally Posted by Exgrad

Of course there are doubts within the FAI, thats pretty clear isnt it?

Is it possible that CEO has a mate he is lining up to come in for Kenny?
10/02/2022, 9:58 AM
pineapple stu

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Originally Posted by Exgrad

Might have been harder if he was on a longer (and better) contract? Thats generally how it works. As things stand there are doubts over the future for the entire coaching staff until contracts get sorted. Thats been going on since November.

Could the FAI afford a better contract? Could they afford a better contact than the Belgian FA? Did Barry want to commit himself to a longer contract in the first place? Even if he did, would that really have changed his decision to move from a side where beating Luxembourg is a positive to one that's made the quarter-finals of five of the last six major tournaments (including the Nations League)?

I do think we need a bit of perspective on our side at times to be honest. At best, I think we would have come away from it with a bit of extra compensation. That's all.
10/02/2022, 10:25 AM
Exgrad

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Originally Posted by ifk101

Is it possible that CEO has a mate he is lining up to come in for Kenny?

Would certainly say there are parties within the FAI who have a different views on who should be managing the team.

Having said that Kennys contract will be renewed and its just the timing of the announcement really.
10/02/2022, 10:31 AM
Exgrad

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Could the FAI afford a better contract? Could they afford a better contact than the Belgian FA? Did Barry want to commit himself to a longer contract in the first place? Even if he did, would that really have changed his decision to move from a side where beating Luxembourg is a positive to one that's made the quarter-finals of five of the last six major tournaments (including the Nations League)?

I do think we need a bit of perspective on our side at times to be honest. At best, I think we would have come away from it with a bit of extra compensation. That's all.

I guess we won't know now, but efectively we left one of the most talented young coaches in the game effectively out of contract. This is a reasnoble perspective. Pretty clear Barry was too upwardly mobile to be hanging round for years, not under any illusions about that. I wouldnt be able to dismiss outright the uncertainty of contracts and the mood music of too many backroom staff that the FAI put out over last few months as a factor in him walking though.
10/02/2022, 5:07 PM
liamoo11

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Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

I've noticed that former U19 player Travis Binnion is coaching the Manchester United U23s, could be another option

Mark Kennedy or diarmuid o carroll
10/02/2022, 6:56 PM
tetsujin1979

Darren O'Dea is coaching at Celtic, they've a load of Irish players in the youth setup
10/02/2022, 9:07 PM
Fixer82

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Originally Posted by liamoo11

Mark Kennedy or diarmuid o carroll

Judging by Kennedy's previous comments, he won't be getting involved in an Irish set up any time soon. Doesn't even watch us when we're playing. Comes across quite bitter about it all even though he was included in 2002 world cup squad an pulled out himself through injury.
10/02/2022, 9:57 PM
BOOMSHAKALAKA

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Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954

We get it. You don't like Stephen Kenny..

I do like Stephen Kenny. The same way I still like Steve Staunton but I rate them about the same when it comes to managing Ireland; way out of their depth.
11/02/2022, 8:18 AM
Ol� Ol�

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Originally Posted by liamoo11

Mark Kennedy or diarmuid o carroll

Diarmuid O'Carroll is more likely to take a gig with the IFA than FAI. Think he's had a few roles there already.
12/02/2022, 1:16 AM
Charlie Darwin

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Originally Posted by BOOMSHAKALAKA

Not every manager brings in people to take over organising their team though.

Maybe you should bring in somebody to organise your evidence for that?
12/02/2022, 10:29 AM
John83

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Originally Posted by Exgrad

Whats that got to do with my post? Take it up with those fans.

I would spell it out for you, but I'd rather not come across as patronising.
12/02/2022, 11:26 AM
liamoo11

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Originally Posted by Ol� Ol�

Diarmuid O'Carroll is more likely to take a gig with the IFA than FAI. Think he's had a few roles there already.

I don't think there is any indication that he would take an ifa role over an fai role
12/02/2022, 1:34 PM
BOOMSHAKALAKA

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Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin

Maybe you should bring in somebody to organise your evidence for that?

Well if you have been watching Ireland matches you may have noticed a sudden change from 433 Kenny to the Chelsea formation. This occurred right after the Chelsea coach arrived.
13/02/2022, 1:30 PM
Bielsa�s irish

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Originally Posted by liamoo11

Maybe fai will go back and offer Barry the managers job and let kennys contract run down?

Could be possible, yes. I thought the same when I read this incident. Of course the WC it could be a sensible reason
13/02/2022, 4:19 PM
Diggs246

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/...-40807281.html
Back to Mainz!!
13/02/2022, 5:33 PM
Trequartista20

Is it the length of contract and terms that the FAI are humming and hawing over, or is Kenny's future genuinely in doubt?

If so, you can only surmise that they have another name in mind. But who might that be?
13/02/2022, 6:53 PM
Diggs246

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Originally Posted by Trequartista20

Is it the length of contract and terms that the FAI are humming and hawing over, or is Kenny's future genuinely in doubt?

If so, you can only surmise that they have another name in mind. But who might that be?

I would say they can't decide on whether to wait until after the 4 NL games in June or give it to him now

They really should wait.. we have very little to lose by waiting.
13/02/2022, 8:33 PM
Trequartista20

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Originally Posted by Diggs246

I would say they can't decide on whether to wait until after the 4 NL games in June or give it to him now

They really should wait.. we have very little to lose by waiting.

That seems sensible.

I, personally, would be of the mind that, notwithstanding Barry's defection, given the recent signs of progression and improvement, and with no-one obvious and available to replace him, Kenny should be afforded more time - though not on a stupidly long contract.
14/02/2022, 9:52 AM
Exgrad

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Originally Posted by John83

I would spell it out for you, but I'd rather not come across as patronising.

He says patronisingly...
14/02/2022, 10:24 AM
John83

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Originally Posted by Exgrad

He says patronisingly...

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/...20130813194642
04/03/2022, 4:16 PM
Exgrad

Now that the record for season tickets sold has been broken i wonder will we hear anything about Kennys contract?
04/03/2022, 7:42 PM
Diggs246

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Originally Posted by Exgrad

Now that the record for season tickets sold has been broken i wonder will we hear anything about Kennys contract?

Is that fact? Not messing... but have season tickets sales records been broken?
04/03/2022, 8:00 PM
passinginterest

According to the FAI it�s a new record anyway: https://www.fai.ie/ireland/news/fai-...tic_FLINhj3PGY
05/03/2022, 6:43 AM
Eirambler

How long have we been selling season tickets for though? Back when we were good it used to be that you had to buy for every game to keep your seat for the following one, but there were no season tickets as such. So it's probably not as big a deal as it sounds.
05/03/2022, 9:28 AM
Exgrad

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Originally Posted by Eirambler

How long have we been selling season tickets for though? Back when we were good it used to be that you had to buy for every game to keep your seat for the following one, but there were no season tickets as such. So it's probably not as big a deal as it sounds.

Its a record since we started selling season tickets. Thats how records work.

And funnily enought rumours of the new contract seem to be out.
05/03/2022, 9:42 AM
seanfhear

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Originally Posted by Eirambler

How long have we been selling season tickets for though? Back when we were good it used to be that you had to buy for every game to keep your seat for the following one, but there were no season tickets as such. So it's probably not as big a deal as it sounds.

Intelligent analysis.
05/03/2022, 11:05 AM
pineapple stu

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Originally Posted by Exgrad

Its a record since we started selling season tickets. Thats how records work.

That's... not the question that was asked though.

The previous record was 16,500 in 2018/19 (per the FAI).

From googling online, I think they were launched in 2011, after the infamous corporate ticket fiasco. And then the FAI set match ticket prices such that it was cheaper to buy individual tickets... See https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/...-26731086.html

So not that long (you can rule out two years due to covid too) - but we've had two Euro qualifications in that time, so to top those ticket sales when we're about as bad as we've ever been does mean something I think
05/03/2022, 1:49 PM
Exgrad

So it is a record since we started selling season tickets then?
05/03/2022, 1:58 PM
pineapple stu

It is.

But if we started selling season tickets in 2022, it would be a silly record.

And if we started selling season tickets in 1972, it'd be a more impressive feat.

I'm not sure why the silly response to what's a reasonable question.
06/03/2022, 10:45 PM
John83

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Originally Posted by Exgrad

So it is a record since we started selling season tickets then?

This is the oldest your mom has been since records began. Not all records are important. Snarking at people looking for context to judge the importance of this one just makes you look like an eejit.
07/03/2022, 8:48 AM
Exgrad

Ok at least we can all agree its a record, that seems settled.

Why it annoys people is another question i guess.
07/03/2022, 9:05 AM
pineapple stu

The only thing that's annoying people is utterly unhelpful answers to perfectly valid questions. Should be fairly clear why that's annoying.
07/03/2022, 2:47 PM
Stuttgart88

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Originally Posted by Eirambler

How long have we been selling season tickets for though? Back when we were good it used to be that you had to buy for every game to keep your seat for the following one, but there were no season tickets as such. So it's probably not as big a deal as it sounds.

That original "block booking" system was in place since immediately after Italia 90 I think. Even then the number of tickets sold which guaranteed you tickets in future were lower than this number. They're somewhat comparable I'd say.

There's definitely something happening in domestic football though. LOI attendances and ST sales high, MNT ST sales high, WNT getting good crowds. Are the Irish getting turned off by petro-countries buying football?
07/03/2022, 7:41 PM
Razors left peg

Fuppin hell, lads are very sensitive about very little here
08/03/2022, 9:08 PM
paul_oshea

https://punditarena.com/football/ron...-ireland-deal/

There it is
08/03/2022, 11:17 PM
John83

I still think it's a bit premature, unless there's a get-out clause for the FAI after the Nations League if things go badly. Still, at least the papers will shut up about it.
08/03/2022, 11:34 PM
elatedscum

Shame they couldn�t have wrapped it up sooner. If they had it all sorted in November, Barry might be still there
09/03/2022, 4:07 PM
Diggs246

https://www.the42.ie/stephen-kenny-f...05310-Mar2022/

I just don't get it... just wait until after the June games and then if all fine give it to him... its terrible business
09/03/2022, 4:21 PM
tetsujin1979

I've no issue with it to be honest - the games in June will be over in three months, and that's not much of a contract to offer
It's a show of faith on the FAI's part for the improved performances at the end of 2021 as well
09/03/2022, 4:25 PM
Diggs246

His contract as we speak is until July AFAIK?

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