Champions League thread

agree with neil mcd, even if messi is coached to hold a higher position and those are his natural instincts, there's no doubt he was simply wrong in his ball-watching because... scholes waltzed onward untouched and scored. a goal. in messi's team's net. if messi had even made an effort to put pressure on from behind, it might've been enough for scholes to screw it wide. as it was he was in acres of space. result: man. united midfielder scores goal - partial cause: barcelona's midfield did not stop him from doing so. this isn't difficult to understand, surely?

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Originally Posted by DaveyCakes

For god's sake, the way people are going on about him, you'd think he was the first person who's ever had a parent die

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Exactly. I think JT lost his Dad recently, as did Ronaldo, and you don't see them faffing about.
I mean, okay, the man lost his mother, but time to move on now

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Originally Posted by WoodquayBoy

Exactly. I think JT lost his Dad recently, as did Ronaldo, and you don't see them faffing about.
I mean, okay, the man lost his mother, but time to move on now

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bit cold....she died when he was coming to end of season and had to play a few very big games. so he makes a few gestures when he scores. so what. whatever gets him thru.

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Originally Posted by jmurphyc

Actually, I was just thinking of other players sent off in finals, and of course Zidane suddenly popped in to my head. As much as Drogba is a cheating **** and Zidane was generally loved for his ability on the pitch, nobody seems to be sypathising with Drogba today - everyone seems to agree that he got what his reputation deserved - but after the '06 World Cup Final there seemed to be a lot of good will towards ZZ. Now, as I said, there's no doubt that Drogba is a total cokc but Zidane's actions were far worse than Drogba's (IMO).

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Did you know that Zidane was sent off (14) more times than Roy Keane. He also head-butted people a number of times.

Who gets the bad rep.

Just read on Wikipedia that the Final in 2010 will be held on a Saturday

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_UE...s_League_Final

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Originally Posted by joe_barry80

Just read on Wikipedia that the Final in 2010 will be held on a Saturday

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_UE...s_League_Final

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Platini's plan to make the final more family friendly.

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Originally Posted by oldyouth

Very harsh on Terry. The man had the guts to step up to the mark. I'm sure there are better peno takers but I'd say half of them were crying 'cramp' or some other sh*te.

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A bit harsh maybe but If Kalou or Anelka(I know he missed too but was still the more logical choice) were willing to take the pen then it definitely should have been one of them before Terry, if they chickened out then fair enough but I think its more likely Terry just wanted to be the hero and he would have received the plaudits for his bravery had he scored so its only fair that his punishment for missing should be to endure all the jokes at his expense otherwise its just a no lose situation if we don´t laugh at the penalty bottlers.
BTW Ronaldo is one lucky boy as his penalty miss is likely to be forgotten now, had Terry scored he would have been labeled a bottler for life.

I was half tempted today to go into a sports shop and buy a Man United jersey and put "Terry 26" on the back!:D:D:D

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Originally Posted by McShels

For me Vidic was man of the match a super performance, I also taught Joe Cole played very well.

But despite all of that extra time and penalties was comedy gold to see Drogba (diving cheating knacker) sent off and his reaction after was priceless and I had a good laugh at that. Let alone the fact that he raised his hand to bitch slap Vidic, he ran from the halfway line to get involved and that alone warrants a yellow card IMO.

Also for Mr. Chelsea (as he is called) to slip while taking the peno, I thoroughly enjoyed that one. Here is a "man" who is nothing more than a bully, he interferes in every decision a referee gives during a game and to see him crying like a baby last night one word Mr,. Terry Karma!!!

Finally, the ref was poor in that he let players from both teams surround him and hassle him to book players of send them off. UEFA/FIFA have to move on this now and make it so only the captain can talk to the ref and not half the team

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def agree here 100%:)
started the game hoping for a chelsea win, as it would be funny to hear Alex Ferg moaning today if they lost and football is mostly rubbish these days so a team like chelsea would set the standard.
But what a game, and totally changed to supporting manure Utd as Chelsea played very cynical football, were arguing with the ref a million times and were play acting all the time.
John Terry. delighted for him, ****. Whta kind of captain is he that cant control his players.
The ref was very weak, but at least he did send Drogba off which for me was a highlight of the game
And my MOTM was Vidic. What a man mountain

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Originally Posted by Billsthoughts

bit cold....she died when he was coming to end of season and had to play a few very big games. so he makes a few gestures when he scores. so what. whatever gets him thru.

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So he deserves greater sympathy because of the timing of his mother's death? Now who is being a bit cold

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Originally Posted by Morbo

A bit harsh maybe but If Kalou or Anelka(I know he missed too but was still the more logical choice) were willing to take the pen then it definitely should have been one of them before Terry, if they chickened out then fair enough but I think its more likely Terry just wanted to be the hero and he would have received the plaudits for his bravery had he scored so its only fair that his punishment for missing should be to endure all the jokes at his expense otherwise its just a no lose situation if we don´t laugh at the penalty bottlers.
BTW Ronaldo is one lucky boy as his penalty miss is likely to be forgotten now, had Terry scored he would have been labeled a bottler for life.

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That's the whole point. Terry is now officially on record as having missed a penalty kick. Everyone else who didn't is down in the pure speculation 'perhaps if' category.
I don't think Chelsea are a good footballing side, but John Terry is a good footballing person

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Originally Posted by bennocelt

def agree here 100%:)
football is mostly rubbish these days so a team like chelsea would set the standard.

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agree.What is going wrong?

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Originally Posted by Axe Man

How can Edmundo say that Barca use Messi to link the attacks through the middle?

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In my opinion, when Barca are not in possesion, he should be in the middle of the park (halfway line area) with a view to getting the ball and running at the opposition (i.e. running into their half).

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Originally Posted by WoodquayBoy

So he deserves greater sympathy because of the timing of his mother's death? Now who is being a bit cold

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What are ya on about?
:rolleyes:

Man Utd lording it over Chelsea about winning the European Cup is akin to Pepsi crowing about having greater profits than Coca Cola

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Originally Posted by ken foree

agree with neil mcd, even if messi is coached to hold a higher position and those are his natural instincts, there's no doubt he was simply wrong in his ball-watching because... scholes waltzed onward untouched and scored. a goal. in messi's team's net. if messi had even made an effort to put pressure on from behind, it might've been enough for scholes to screw it wide. as it was he was in acres of space. result: man. united midfielder scores goal - partial cause: barcelona's midfield did not stop him from doing so. this isn't difficult to understand, surely?

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It was one touch and hit from Scholes after a ball that should have never been attempted. Zambrotta's team mates ahd every right to expect he wouldn't play such a ball, espeically as a) you're coached throughout your life to 1, play the way you are facing, and 2 not play it across your box at the back, both of which Zambrotta did. and b) the keeper was open for a simple ball to be laid back to him. Arguing that Messi should have expected all football logic to be thrown out the window in one moment of madness from Zambrotta is just being argumentative for the sake of it.

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Originally Posted by jebus

Man Utd lording it over Chelsea about winning the European Cup is akin to Pepsi crowing about having greater profits than Coca Cola

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But Pepsi are smaller than coke.......;)

Has anybody seen the clips and pictures of Terry spitting/snorting at Tevez? What a grade A scumbag.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/mai.../sfnfro223.xml

Not really conclusive proof and I think Terry is a scumbag.

If I remember correctly I think you see Tevez wiping side of his face/neck. Frank Rijkaard at the 1990 WC is in a league of it's own though....how Voller restrained himself I'll never know.