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02/02/2011, 8:45 PM
irishultra

poor season year before last and was alrite at best last year, still as clumsy as fck
02/02/2011, 8:47 PM
Sullivinho

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Originally Posted by irishultra

shocking his time might be up soon, some players you would say might not be soo good at club level but international game suits them, dunne is like the least player cut out for international football, not an intelligent defender at all. a liability for any epl team

That's your quota of hyperbole for the year used up and it's only february!
02/02/2011, 8:49 PM
irishultra

wats that? and its true dunne is a terrible defender, hes lucky trap plays so defensive or he would be found out time and time again
02/02/2011, 8:50 PM
SwanVsDalton

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Originally Posted by irishultra

poor season year before last and was alrite at best last year, still as clumsy as fck

Not sure what 'Richard Dunne' you were watching (maybe you were staring at a box of Sugar Puffs) but he was largely brilliant last year. As his fellow professionals agreed. For someone so 'clumsy' he's done well to have such a long, highly respectable career at the highest level..
02/02/2011, 8:51 PM
irishultra

ask any villa fan they want him out of the team and hes just gonna keep getting worse. i can see sven picking him up during the summer
02/02/2011, 8:53 PM
Charlie Darwin

I think your signature sums up just how skewed your judgement is.
02/02/2011, 8:55 PM
SwanVsDalton

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Originally Posted by irishultra

ask any villa fan they want him out of the team and hes just gonna keep getting worse. i can see sven picking him up during the summer

I'm a Villa fan. So I know the following:

1) Richard Dunne was brilliant last season and hasn't been great this year, his form compounded by the general mess that has been Villa's back four, not to mention some disastrous mismanagement from Houllier. Excepting last night, however, his form has improved quite a bit. He's been much better than Collins and would benefit from having Cuellar beside him.

2) The majority of Villa fans are clueless muppets.
04/03/2011, 9:11 AM
drummerboy

SSN are reporting that Richard Dunne is out injured for about a month with a shoulder injury picked up during the week against Man City. Bad news indeed. Who will replace him for Ireland.
04/03/2011, 9:14 AM
TrapAPony

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Originally Posted by drummerboy

SSN are reporting that Richard Dunne is out injured for about a month with a shoulder injury picked up during the week against Man City. Bad news indeed. Who will replace him for Ireland.

Coleman, St. Ledger, O'Shea, Clark for me but for Trapattoni it will probably be O'Shea, St. Ledger, Clark, Kilbane
04/03/2011, 9:25 AM
jbyrne

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Originally Posted by drummerboy

SSN are reporting that Richard Dunne is out injured for about a month with a shoulder injury picked up during the week against Man City. Bad news indeed. Who will replace him for Ireland.

so no given, dunne or keane. v bad news for us
04/03/2011, 9:28 AM
elroy

FCUK!! probably our most indispensable player at the moment. Hopefully the time out will not be as long as anticipated.
04/03/2011, 9:33 AM
rebelmusic

Yup, after Given and Keane our last real leader on the pitch. Pretty much guarantees Kilbane will start for that alone.
04/03/2011, 9:34 AM
rebelmusic

Hmm maybe not so bad. 3 weeks is just about doable. Trap will probably call him up and leave it down to the wire.

Aston Villa defender Richard Dunne will be out of action for up to a month with a shoulder problem, the club have confirmed.
Dunne suffered the setback during Villa's 3-0 defeat against Manchester City in the FA Cup on Wednesday.
Villa boss Gerard Houllier confirmed: "Unfortunately, we're going to lose Richard Dune for three to four weeks with a shoulder problem.
"The good thing is, we haven't got many games during that period."
04/03/2011, 10:11 AM
Lionel Ritchie

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Originally Posted by irishultra

poor season year before last and was alrite at best last year, still as clumsy as fck

year before last he'd still have been with City. Interesting stat I heard - new years day 2009 (his last NYD at City) City had conceded just 10 goals away while Villa had conceded 27. New years day 2010 Villa had conceded 10 goals and City had shipped 27. The one constant in all this -Mr. Richard Dunne.
04/03/2011, 10:42 AM
Stuttgart88

If Dunne is out I'd go for:

Foley-JOS-SSL-Kilbane

Kilbane for the experience & leadership, as noted above.

I think Trap rates Kelly over Foley though. Foley just shades it over Coleman for me because he's a defender first & foremost.
04/03/2011, 10:46 AM
paul_oshea

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Originally Posted by SwanVsDalton

I'm a Villa fan. So I know the following:

1) Richard Dunne was brilliant last season and hasn't been great this year, his form compounded by the general mess that has been Villa's back four, not to mention some disastrous mismanagement from Houllier. Excepting last night, however, his form has improved quite a bit. He's been much better than Collins and would benefit from having Cuellar beside him.

2) The majority of Villa fans are clueless muppets.

I thought you said he played well the other night?

The last few back fours look awful dodgy to say the least. But we cant do anything about it. Its almost 4 weeks away, Im confident dunney will be fit if houllier lets him go.

I get excited when i think about the players we have, then when one player like this is out, i think we are in dire straits.

The only plus is that its the home game they are out for and not the away game.
04/03/2011, 11:01 AM
drummerboy

I still wouldn't give up hope of Dunne making the game.
04/03/2011, 1:10 PM
SwanVsDalton

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Originally Posted by paul_oshea

I thought you said he played well the other night?

The last few back fours look awful dodgy to say the least. But we cant do anything about it. Its almost 4 weeks away, Im confident dunney will be fit if houllier lets him go.

I get excited when i think about the players we have, then when one player like this is out, i think we are in dire straits.

The only plus is that its the home game they are out for and not the away game.

He did play well the other night - post you've quoted is from over a month ago.

Bit of a disaster - three of our 'big four' possibly gone. Definitely hope Duff is wrapped in cotton wool now. As has been mentioned, there's still a good chance he'll play. Dunney Monster has regularly played through the pain barrier and if he's anywhere near fit he'll be itching for the game and Trap will probably start him.
04/03/2011, 6:21 PM
tetsujin1979

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Originally Posted by Lionel Ritchie

year before last he'd still have been with City. Interesting stat I heard - new years day 2009 (his last NYD at City) City had conceded just 10 goals away while Villa had conceded 27. New years day 2010 Villa had conceded 10 goals and City had shipped 27. The one constant in all this -Mr. Richard Dunne.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but that isn't right.
This is Dunne's away record with City up until January 1st, 2009

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Home Away Date Competition Team Goals Goals Team 17-Jul-2008 UEFA Cup EB Streymur 0 2 Manchester City 28-Aug-2008 UEFA Cup Midtjylland 0 1 Manchester City 31-Aug-2008 Premier League Sunderland 0 3 Manchester City 18-Sep-2008 UEFA Cup Omonia Nicosia 1 2 Manchester City 24-Sep-2008 English League Cup Brighton and Hove Albion 2 2 Manchester City 28-Sep-2008 Premier League Wigan 2 1 Manchester City 20-Oct-2008 Premier League Newcastle 2 2 Manchester City 29-Oct-2008 Premier League Middlesbrough 2 0 Manchester City 2-Nov-2008 Premier League Bolton 2 0 Manchester City 27-Nov-2008 UEFA Cup Schalke 0 2 Manchester City 6-Dec-2008 Premier League Fulham 1 1 Manchester City 21-Dec-2008 Premier League West Bromwich Albion 2 1 Manchester City 28-Dec-2008 Premier League Blackburn 2 2 Manchester City

Total goals conceded away from home - 16
If you just restrict it to League games it's

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Home Away Date Competition Team Goals Goals Team 31-Aug-2008 Premier League Sunderland 0 3 Manchester City 28-Sep-2008 Premier League Wigan 2 1 Manchester City 20-Oct-2008 Premier League Newcastle 2 2 Manchester City 29-Oct-2008 Premier League Middlesbrough 2 0 Manchester City 2-Nov-2008 Premier League Bolton 2 0 Manchester City 6-Dec-2008 Premier League Fulham 1 1 Manchester City 21-Dec-2008 Premier League West Bromwich Albion 2 1 Manchester City 28-Dec-2008 Premier League Blackburn 2 2 Manchester City

Total league goals conceded away from home - 13
Villa's away games from the same period are

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Home Away Date Competition Team Goals Goals Team 19-Jul-2008 Inter Toto Cup Odense 2 2 Aston Villa 14-Aug-2008 UEFA Cup FH Hafnarfjordur 1 4 Aston Villa 23-Aug-2008 Premier League Stoke City 3 2 Aston Villa 15-Sep-2008 Premier League Tottenham 1 2 Aston Villa 18-Sep-2008 UEFA Cup Litex Lovech 1 3 Aston Villa 21-Sep-2008 Premier League West Bromwich Albion 1 2 Aston Villa 5-Oct-2008 Premier League Chelsea 2 0 Aston Villa 26-Oct-2008 Premier League Wigan 0 4 Aston Villa 3-Nov-2008 Premier League Newcastle 2 0 Aston Villa 6-Nov-2008 UEFA Cup Slavia Prague 0 1 Aston Villa 15-Nov-2008 Premier League Arsenal 0 2 Aston Villa 7-Dec-2008 Premier League Everton 2 3 Aston Villa 17-Dec-2008 UEFA Cup SV Hamburg 3 1 Aston Villa 20-Dec-2008 Premier League West Ham 0 1 Aston Villa 30-Dec-2008 Premier League Hull City 0 1 Aston Villa

Total goals conceded away from home - 18
City's record up until January 1st, 2010

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Home Away Date Competition Team Goals Goals Team 15-Aug-2009 Premier League Blackburn 0 2 Manchester City 27-Aug-2009 English League Cup Crystal Palace 0 2 Manchester City 30-Aug-2009 Premier League Portsmouth 0 1 Manchester City 20-Sep-2009 Premier League Manchester United 4 3 Manchester City 5-Oct-2009 Premier League Aston Villa 1 1 Manchester City 18-Oct-2009 Premier League Wigan 1 1 Manchester City 1-Nov-2009 Premier League Birmingham City 0 0 Manchester City 21-Nov-2009 Premier League Liverpool 2 2 Manchester City 12-Dec-2009 Premier League Bolton 3 3 Manchester City 16-Dec-2009 Premier League Tottenham 3 0 Manchester City 28-Dec-2009 Premier League Wolverhampton Wanderers 0 3 Manchester City

Total goals conceded - 14
Note that Dunne did play in the first away game against Blackburn

And finally, Richard Dunne's games with Villa up until January 1st, 2010

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Home Away Date Competition Team Goals Goals Team 13-Sep-2009 Premier League Birmingham City 0 1 Aston Villa 26-Sep-2009 Premier League Blackburn 2 1 Aston Villa 24-Oct-2009 Premier League Wolverhampton Wanderers 1 1 Aston Villa 27-Oct-2009 English League Sunderland 0 0 Aston Villa 31-Oct-2009 Premier League Everton 1 1 Aston Villa 4-Nov-2009 Premier League West Ham 2 1 Aston Villa 21-Nov-2009 Premier League Burnley 1 1 Aston Villa 1-Dec-2009 English League Portsmouth 2 4 Aston Villa 12-Dec-2009 Premier League Manchester United 0 1 Aston Villa 15-Dec-2009 Premier League Sunderland 0 2 Aston Villa 27-Dec-2009 Premier League Arsenal 3 0 Aston Villa

Total goals conceded away from home - 12
If you remove the two league cup games then it's 10 goals conceded away from home
04/03/2011, 8:02 PM
mark12345

Dunne out?

It's a loss (experience wise) but only if we bring in Kilbane. The squad is big enough now to cope. The back four should be

Foley St Ledger O'Shea Clark

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