Mata only scored 1 goal in 21 or 22 games in England, not a good return, but he should score a good few at this level, I think they have him until June only, still a good signing for Sligo.Quote:
Originally Posted by legendz
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Mata only scored 1 goal in 21 or 22 games in England, not a good return, but he should score a good few at this level, I think they have him until June only, still a good signing for Sligo.Quote:
Originally Posted by legendz
It doesn't Mata to Sligo fans who are delighted to welcome him back to the club! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by oriel
Will be interesting to see how much of an impact Mata can make. I didn't really fancy him being a hit over the water, he was on a hot streak early last season but I think 4 of his 11 league goals came in two games against UCD and he'd something like 2 in 10 before moving, obviously a handy player but one of those where when you scratched below the surface it didn't feel as impressive as it seemed at face value. Still and all, an issue this Sligo team looked like it was going to have is a consistent threat of goals, so he'll be a boost to that if he can recapture some form.
Totally agree with this statement, overrated.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack B
Also agree, decent at linking play though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Briuk
If this average/overrated Mata bloke finished the season with Sligo he almost certainly would have finished as last seasons top goalscorer
He's probably no Geoghegan, Morley, Crowe, Byrne, Twigg or Hoban etc. but that's a good signing for any LOI team even for a short term loan especially for relegation tipped Sligo
He's a decemt footballer, as well as goalscorer, and gives te team a good platform. I like him, although I don't think he'll play all that many games.Quote:
Originally Posted by total hoofball
Romeo Akachukwu moving in the summer to Southampton for €500,000 …
It was bound to happen, a nice chunk of cash to spend on buying more players sure, be grand.
Just a bit of idle speculation of a Sunday afternoon,but is the Evan Ferguson bubble in danger of bursting (thus denying lambert's puppet theatre at dalymount untold €€€€'s).
He's still only a chiseler in age terms but in a free scoring Brighton side,his goalscoring in conspicuous by its absence.. He has a multi-year contract there but the possibility of a £100M+ transfer doesn't look inevitable at present.
Ferguson is still only 19 I think Bohs will get a nice payday out of him sometime in the future. Brighton clearly have not been running him into the ground this season similarly to when Southampton famously managed the gametime of a developing Alan Shearer until he was about 20 and then the goals regularly followed
ACL injury for Rob Cornwall,Bohs will need to dip into the market for a CB.
Bohs didn't buy badly, they didn't buy at all. Shows the importance of buying wisely and early. But it's now a case of taking what you can get and expecting inexperienced Byrne and the new boy to be rock solid, because frankly when Cornwall went off on Friday the rest of the sh1t themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by joey B
Bit of chatter around Novak coming back. He is without a club. I know he was as quick as an oil tanker but he was solid enough to retain in the squad. Given the deadline is the 20th, I’d bring him back.Quote:
Originally Posted by joey B
The cup final goalscoring hero himself! Was he hoping to secure a club back in Poland or elsewhere that fell through? Always think it’s strange when a player goes 4 months without a clubQuote:
Originally Posted by ger121
Harps signed Luke O'Brien on loan from Pats.
It's going to a busy exciting week for a lucky bunch of unemployed Estonian centre-backs whom Devine/Fenlon will claim they have been tracking for a number of months and not panic signings at allQuote:
Originally Posted by Shinkicker
Really unfortunate for Cornwall. Hope his recovery goes as well as possible.
Bohs have had a shocker to be in this position though. Injury to Cornwall or not you're asking for trouble going into the season with only two recognised centre backs, and it's not like Byrne is the most proven either. Don't doubt that they tried for the like of Keeley, Turner and whoever else but still no excuse for being this unprepared.
Even Dundalk had a plan B and C with siging keepers after plans to extend Sheppard's contract were scuppered. Progress for us, teams affairs playing second fiddle to Thin Lizzy at Bohs!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack B
I think people conflate the successful marketing arm of Bohs with their so so footballing side. Without that stuff we'd have a first division budget and a lot if good causes would be worse off. We're a different model and people need to move away from the lazy narrative of priorities gone arse waysQuote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
If your different model is not for success on the pitch I would have thought that was the definition of arse ways priorities for a football club ?
in fairness, with the infrastructure and financial situation at Bohs - if they simply tried to do what Rovers do, they'd probably be less successful than they are now. all the stuff they do probably bridges the gap to a certain degree - increases jersey sales and ticket sales and ultimately, most years they're able to put out a side that's competitive and in the mix for europe...Quote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
I agree with a lot of what you say, but it's Bohemian FC, football should be the main priority and all the community projects should come second. Every child in in DP got a Christmas gift but the football squad were left short of a centre back. I know the price of the gift won't buy a centre back, but if the same effort was put in to building the squad we wouldn't be in the position we are in after week one of the season.Quote:
Originally Posted by elatedscum
While I've long been a critic of Bohs for putting everything else over football, surely the clubs DOF shouldn't be distracted by such matters? A huge part of his job is recruitment and he's made a mess of it in multiple windows now. I'm sure Bohs have a community officer or someone who looks after the other stuff? Buck stops with the manager and DOF for the state of the FT squad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shinkicker
Agree with what your saying. The way people go on in here you'd swear Fenlon and Devine were designing jerseys, wrapping gifts and delivering them. That's not the case. People pointing at a jersey and saying that's why there's no players signed is like seeing a 404 message when trying to load twitter and blaming twitters marketing department. Same company but very different roles.Quote:
Originally Posted by outspoken
Im pointing the finger at the membership! There is a warm fuzzy vibe going round and people patting themselves on the back for a job well done...on jerseys and promotional activity, but more than any club the Bohs model can demand answers to why aspect of the club do so well and the football club doesnt and at a very basic level. One may facilitate the other but Bohs are not operating on a pittance. Sligo seem to be and Drogheda are and both dont think that 2 centre halves are enough, nobody does and it has already backfired. Bohs being the butt of jokes on their holier than thou social conscience is not because that is a bad thing, it is because it has become a more impoartant metric on success than endeavours on the pitch. Long did wonders when Bohs didnt have a pot to pish in, Bohs fans bleat about how great the club has done to turn that around but to what benefit tof the FC. Fenlon is a very experienced football man, would he accept things if he was managing the side. Something is odd, with plenty of contradictions.
I dont buy that poor mouth stuff from Bohs,Quote:
Originally Posted by elatedscum
Rovers average attendance was 2500 more than Bohs last year average revenue per ticket is around a tenner (load of kids season tickets) so thats 25000 per match addtional revenue times 18 = €450,000
Given the jersey sales they seem to be getting (im sure i heard 2 million mentioned) they should be closing that gap.
I think plucky underdog suits the narrative but its a cop out in my view.
I don't think anyone within the club has mentioned budget? The party line seems to be "trying to get better players in over just getting bodies in". I don't particularly buy that much either as you need bodies in before you can get better bodies in.Quote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
It's not "poor mouth stuff", it's we can't lose money like other clubs in the league can and get away with it anymore.
No time to be worrying about new centre backs with the Julian Assange extradition case going on
HahahaQuote:
Originally Posted by Glen Of Aherlow
Probably just as well U2 didn't play at dalymount or boez would have to find a way of having a star of david on their shirts.
In terms of the, frankly comical, lack of onfield success for boez in a decade , a fair minded man would point out that they were only a peno shootout and 2 cup final appearances away from trophy success so its not like their shels or anything- I'm not like that, obviously...:)
You are correct the DOF shouldn't be distracted by such matters, my point is, he or the Manager OR both should be held accountable for the signings to date or the lack of. Senior committee must have known the player situation prior to the season starting. I'm sure there were regular meetings to see how the toy thing was going at Christmas but probably no meetings on the player progress. Everyone in their on department is accountable for their job beit paid or voluntary. They must have told the senior committee some porkys, and that's if meetings ever took place. We are signing a good one next, oh he went somewhere else for 100 euro a month more or we couldn't sign him due to the housing crisis. For the sake of a few hundred euro get the man you want, don't make excuses. The housing crisis is the same for all Dublin clubs. I'm sure the wage difference for players does not differ by thousands. Rant overQuote:
Originally Posted by outspoken
Buck stops with Devine, he’s the team boss. Biggest ever budget, full time set up, top training facilities. No ****ing excuse this season, none. He was recommended several players by Fenlon and was either reluctant to sign them or moved too slow or in a couple of cases ignored the advice.
Didn't know that re: reluctant and or slow. I see we possibly have a Polish player/striker coming in from FC Imabari who I think are J League 3. Now we have strikers we'll bang in 4 goals a game, problem is we'll lose 5-4 because we've no defendersQuote:
Originally Posted by Dermobohs
If that's true (turning down players & acting too slowly) then Devine's leash may be shorter than it seemed at the start of the season. It's a bold strategy from him, let's see how it works out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dermobohs
I don't think anybody expects them to do what we do.....but they aren't doing the basics on the football side. I like some of the other stuff and wouldn't mind if we released a few more jerseys to be honest. It wouldn't be as hypocritical for clubs without climate officers to do it either....But they are falling apart on the field. They aren't bridging any gaps at all. Since they've increased their budget and put in their DoF they've actually gone backwards. They were 2nd in 2020 and apparently all is rosy on the financial side yet they can't compete above 5th or 6th place now? Combining that with some of the more laughable social/community efforts (beehive painting and trad music cults for example) and they are setting themselves up for backlash from their own fans. You can see it bubbling on social media. It doesn't help that Lambert likes to be front and centre and I'm not sure he fully understands his own critics:Quote:
Originally Posted by elatedscum
“You’re always going to have detractors, you’re always going to have people saying: ‘Why can’t we just be normal?’ There is a bit of that,” says Lambert.
Innovative
“If we don’t behave innovatively we might as well just sell the club. The members don’t want to sell the club. The merchandise is a way of being innovative.
“But we’re running out of gigs now,” he adds, laughing.
https://www.irishmirror.ie/sport/soc...-what-32149463
I don't think people have a problem with the jerseys.......it's the team being put out in them that's the issue. They'll hammer us now in all 4 games of course.
Filip Piszczek confirmed to Bohs. Listed as striker but I hope he can also play in defence...
Its taken me a while to realize that, strategically, we have the right plan. It is sound. Off the field, improve all income streams through innovation and social connection with the stated aim of sustainability and success on the field. However, as many rightly point out, as a football club it will all fall apart (already is falling apart) if you don't get the equivalent success on the pitch. So, I think this funk we are in is not so about a flawed strategy but more so is about holding people accountable to performance on the pitch.
Much like striving for commercial and social success and putting the right people in place off the pitch, holding people accountable to success on the football development and playing side is also the responsibility of the Board/President. Whether the recruitment issues are on Nutsy or Devine, I don't know for sure, but when it comes to winning games, that is on the manager and I do think that Devine can count himself lucky to have survived last season.
name like that is a bit of a p!sstake...Quote:
Originally Posted by Another Bohemia