Been at the club on trial too, though Im not sure Armar was going to be signed from what was said previously, but things may have changed after the game in Derry.
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Been at the club on trial too, though Im not sure Armar was going to be signed from what was said previously, but things may have changed after the game in Derry.
I would have presumed he would go back bohs, DR , no? you better hope gorgeous george doesn't get injuredQuote:
Originally Posted by Dalymountrower
Yep, absolutely up **** creek if he does.Quote:
Originally Posted by placid casual
Paul Doolin in as new manager. Didn't see that one coming I must say.Quote:
Originally Posted by joey B
no more Mr NIce Guy
Hahahahahahahaaaaa!Quote:
Originally Posted by Longfordian
Poor Athlone :p
Never thought I’d see him back in the league to be honest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Longfordian
12 years since he’s managed in the league….
Maybe worth a hail mary chance though I dont think Athlone will have money to squeeze in to a player budget. Said he applied for Rovers and Galway would have though Dundalk would have been in the mix with recent haphazard free spending policy fitting his methods with little value for money needed....
Pats have signed right back Jak Hickman who was last with Bolton Wanderers to fill the gap left by John Mountney who’s out for the rest of the season after doing his cruciate in Oriel the other week
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Originally Posted by 2 Year Contract
Speaking of Crutiates and Oriel, any word on how Gartland is recovering? Be terrible to see a player like him retiring because of that injury
This might be a controversial opinion, but I find it amazing the overprice of the Scales transfer. A good LOI player, but to me, doesnt seem a standard above which warrents such money. In the biggest games he doesnt stand out, such as in Europe, and for the final last year lost McMillian for his goal and gave a needless penalty away. Not saying Im right, just think its a inflated price (which is great for Rovers), but would be surprised if he made it at a higher standard like Celtic.
If Scales goes, from the starting 11 last night in Europe, only Dylan Watt is under 26 years old, with five players over 30, and three more on the bench. It is an old team, and it really doesnt suit Rovers to lose their youngest starting player.
From my quick calculations , the average of the team last night was 29.4, and without Scales, it would be 30.1 years old. I really doubt there would have been a team in Europe last night with an older team. Including the bench it was 28.4 (bench had an average age of 26.8).
Point being, that is a lot of players potentially declining together in the next few years, or more likely, Rovers needing to bring in a heap of lads over the next few windows, which is fairly difficult (just ask Dundalk + Cork).
I hope for his sake that gets a few more years on the pitch as his expert commentary on TV last night was very poor.Quote:
Originally Posted by vinnie
He's talking about Brian Gartland, not Graham Gartland who is very much retired and working with Rovers underage teams
Cheers, Brian Gartland may well be an excellent TV pundit then.Quote:
Originally Posted by placid casual
Seems to have gone a bit under the radar here a bit but Dundalk defender Val Adedokun is apparently on his way to Brentford for a substantial 6 figure sum and with all clubs who played a part in his development due for reward.
https://extra.ie/2021/08/20/sport/so...s/val-adedokun
As a Celtic fan as well I agree with this and don’t want him, a lot of us can’t help but feel it’s simply a Dermot Desmond manoeuvre.Quote:
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Bump.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sonny
It's a very low cost low risk punt from Celtic's perspective. Makes a lot more sense than the money wasted loaning Laxalt, Kenny and Duffy last year. The terrible strategic planning has left an absurd amount of gaps to be filled in the squad and his ability to cover LCB and LB would be majorly beneficial as it doesn't look like anyone is being signed to push Taylor whilst Boli is also sitting on the books. Postecoglu appears to be a good coach who gives his players clearly defined roles and instructions and if Scales does indeed have the ability to make the step up it looks like the right move to flourish.Quote:
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I don’t disagree with any of that.
However the concern from a Celtic perspective is that he will be sold to fans as a first team signing and not a punt as you mention.
The reality is if he signs it will be Celtic saying “here, we HAVE signed more defensive cover”, when the team is crying out for a good centre half and left back this is what we end up fobbed off with, a 0.5 mil League of Ireland defender. This is Desmond all over. Obviously on this occasion it has the added bonus of shifting funds to this other club.
If Scales is signed as a “punt” alongside a centre half and a left back, fair enough. That is unlikely.
The reason celtic are paying 600k is because better clubs than celtic were in for scales as well. Scales is well capable of playing at league 1 level which is where celtic are or championship level if he does OK at celtic. Happy for him as he will earn more at celtic and he has been good for rovers. Hopefully he can push on with his career from here .
He is also under contract until the end of next season , and rovers aren't desperate to get money for him. They have no problem rejecting offers they aren't happy with.
You don’t know he is more than capable of playing at league one level though. Rovers fans thought the same of Graham Burke.Quote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
For me he stands out in the LOI a lot more than Scales (he was magic in the 2-4 game at the Brandywell for example) but was simply not good enough for league one level when he played there and is miles off ever playing in the Championship again.
Scales was part of a shambles of a defence against Flora Tallinn in the ECL the other day. For all that Celtic aren’t at a great level themselves he is unlikely to bring any real improvement. As I say if signed as a punt, fine. He is no more than that.
The classic comment from a supporter of a club thats hitting the peak of their cycle of success, the kiss of death in LoI terms and the start of the break in the cycle. It may be a few years before the 'told you so' can be claimed though....Quote:
Originally Posted by Asterix
DD is going to know what offers are on the table surely and just has to better them hoping that significant offers from other clubs dont roll in turning the players head too. It is a bit of a transfer of wealth when 2 clubs involved have a common money man backing things. A win win also with his stake in Rovers if another club offers more than Celtic. 600k is a good fee and hopefully something of a precedence for better future transfer fees. With the bargain basement fees we are used to in LoI in mind it is quite a lump for Celtic to splash on a development player especially with a big financial hole to fill. They are open about being a selling club to maintain sustainability so I suppose rebuilding will become a more regular thing there and signings like Scales fits in to that model - very average players have made Scottish clubs a nice wedge selling on to the lower tiers in England, never mind a chap that could forge a good career in the UK.
With having signed Starfelt, Julien returning from injury, the emergence of Welsh; and Bitton and Murray also there to provide cover I don't think you're going to see any more significant upgrading to the defence in this window. The squad management over the past two seasons have left too much to do. The improvement in Ralston and Rogic has partially helped alleviate that burden. I wouldn't get fixated on the Desmond connection. It sounds to me from his interviews like Postecoglu has a say in transfers and is making sure the club identify players that fit his system and vision. Notwithstanding the potential departures of Edouard and Christie, if at the end of last season I even thought the squad was going to be in this good a state I'd have been delighted.Quote:
Originally Posted by DCWA
Again i can’t disagree with any of that, RB has now been signed to replace Ralston as well although the consensus is still that another CB is required and an upgrade or at least cover for LB and I think we will see Scales as being that signed as that which I from a Celtic perspective feel is far from sufficient but look this is all Celtic talk so probably dragging the thread a wee bit off topic now. It was just to give a perspective on the potential Scales move.Quote:
Originally Posted by Poor Student
Sligo signed some English/German/Ugandan lad. Played a bit in the Bundesliga with Werder Bremen and played a bit in the Eredivisie.
Weird one. 40+ games in the 2017/18 and 2018/19 Dutch top flight is a decent recent pedigree, but he hasn't played a senior game in almost two years. Can't see why.
Scales to Celtic confirmed on a 4 year deal.
https://www.celticfc.com/news/2021/a...s_6V4SwZb6D7A4
4 year deal? Good for him!.Quote:
Originally Posted by joey B
Presumably he will play against Bohs on Sunday while awaiting international clearance.?
https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2021...our-yeal-deal/Quote:
Originally Posted by Dalymountrower
RTE reckon he could be in the Celtic squad for the old firm derby so fair to say he won't be playing for Rovers.
Talk about a debut Id say he will go straight into the starting XI at Ibrox with Taylor getting injured last night.Quote:
Originally Posted by joey B
Who was the last player to move directly from Shamrock Rovers to Celtic?
His clearance won't go through in time to play against the gers, and with Rovers now a bit light at the back due to injuries to Grace, Kavanagh and Hoare there has been optimistic talk thst he'll still be available for the cup game on Sunday.
Hopefully he signs off with the winner against the our development team and then we wish him all the best on his football journey.
Zero chance of him playing Sunday.
I know Paddy McCourt played for both Shamrock Rovers and Celtic but somehow I dont think its him?Quote:
Originally Posted by eitoof
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Originally Posted by eitoof
Go back to 1968 and a guy called Jackie Clarke.
https://www.thecelticwiki.com/1968-0...ltic-friendly/
Jordan Gibson left Sligo and gone to Carlisle…
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Originally Posted by joey B
He is from Birmingham so probably being back in the UK suits him.
If he was Irish it would be a poor enough move you'd think especially now Roddy isn't there
That will be a loss for Sligo. He seemed to be doing well for them this season. He probably should have seen the season out in Sligo then moved in January. He seems to be constantly on the move since he left Bradford City. The grass isn't always greener,Quote:
Originally Posted by joey B