Troy Parrott F AZ Alkmaar b.2002

Making his (senior) European debut about now, leading the line at home to Elfsborg of Sweden.

Was on the bench for two Champions League games in 2019/20 but never played. And has nine goals in nine Youth League appearances before that.

Bigger challenges than Elfsborg to come too - Spurs of course, plus Bilbao, Roma, Fenerbahce and Galatasaray. Ludogorets and Ferencvaros complete the fixtures. They'll probably be looking to get into the last 24 from that - Elfsborg, Ludogorets and Ferencvaros seem winnable ties.

Scores a peno to put AZ 3-2 up. Great to see.

Just curious if the standard of opposition allows for Parrotts goal to be celebrated? Are they L1 standard, Championship?? I need to know before I can tell if its a good thing that he got the winning goal in a European game. Also, it was a penalty, does that even count?

I'll celebrate any Irish senior squad player scoring a penalty given how bad a lot of them seem to be at them.

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Originally Posted by Razors left peg

Just curious if the standard of opposition allows for Parrotts goal to be celebrated? Are they L1 standard, Championship?? I need to know before I can tell if its a good thing that he got the winning goal in a European game. Also, it was a penalty, does that even count?

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I think in fairness most of us are able to take the calibre of the opposition and the type of goal into account when building a view of a player without taking offence if someone suggests that not all goals are the equivalent of wonder goals against Man City.

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

I think in fairness most of us are able to take the calibre of the opposition and the type of goal into account when building a view of a player without taking offence if someone suggests that not all goals are the equivalent of wonder goals against Man City.

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I knew penalties wouldnt count.

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Originally Posted by Exgrad

I knew penalties wouldnt count.

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Penalties are worth 0.85 goals by my own rule book (depending on the standard of the opposition of course its worth can fluctuate). You get the full credit if you win the penalty too, with additional points over the 1.0 for style of winning it..

Another example, is a goal where you take the ball from inside your own half can be worth up to 2.0 in the SkStu statistics (depending, obviously, on how deep you were when the run started and how many mugs you made of the opposition on your way). A Nayim beats a Beckham but both over 1.25 and so on...

:D

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Originally Posted by SkStu

Penalties are worth 0.85 goals by my own rule book (depending on the standard of the opposition of course its worth can fluctuate). You get the full credit if you win the penalty too, with additional points over the 1.0 for style of winning it..

Another example, is a goal where you take the ball from inside your own half can be worth up to 2.0 in the SkStu statistics (depending, obviously, on how deep you were when the run started and how many mugs you made of the opposition on your way). A Nayim beats a Beckham but both over 1.25 and so on...

:D

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But what if a Nayim was the 4th goal in a 4 nil win against Middlesborough and a winning penalty was against Real Madrid... who grades higher on the SkStu statistics? :confused:

This is good though, I need someone to be the arbiter of happiness allowance for goals scored so I don't find myself being happy about goals against Ross County or Ajax unnecessarily.

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Originally Posted by Razors left peg

But what if a Nayim was the 4th goal in a 4 nil win against Middlesborough and a winning penalty was against Real Madrid... who grades higher on the SkStu statistics? :confused:

This is good though, I need someone to be the arbiter of happiness allowance for goals scored so I don't find myself being happy about goals against Ross County or Ajax unnecessarily.

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I concur; we need some way of extablishing xH (expected happiness) versus actual otherwise we're randomly experiencing emotions purely on the evidence of our own eyes with no stats whatever to back it up - which I think we can all agree is no way to support a team.

xH = (((ToG + SoG) - xG)) + (AP*IQ)) / RQO + GN

expected happiness = (((Type of Goal + Style of Goal) - xG)) + (Age of Player * Irish Quotient)) / Relative Quality of Opposition + Game Narrative

A starting point anyway. We'll wait for Snappers to weigh in though.

Jaysus this is gonna be like waiting for VAR to confirm a goal. Everytime someone scores I'll have to refer to SKStu formular to see if I can jump off my couch... but it's perfect, just what was needed around these parts. We can call it the Dontbegettingcarriedaway Theorem

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Originally Posted by Razors left peg

Jaysus this is gonna be like waiting for VAR to confirm a goal. Everytime someone scores I'll have to refer to SKStu formular to see if I can jump off my couch... but it's perfect, just what was needed around these parts. We can call it the Dontbegettingcarriedaway Theorem

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We'll set up a Cantankerous Goals Committee for the more controversial ones.

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Originally Posted by texidub

Scores a peno to put AZ 3-2 up. Great to see.

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Touch of the Aldridge Shuffle about that Peno, bodes well. Must say he carries himself very well in interviews I've seen since he arrived in the Netherlands.

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Originally Posted by Grafter

Touch of the Aldridge Shuffle about that Peno, bodes well. Must say he carries himself very well in interviews I've seen since he arrived in the Netherlands.

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No Steve McClaren Duchy going on yet ? !

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Originally Posted by EalingGreen

So what you're saying is that playing against a mediocre club side is better preparation for playing a mediocre international side than playing against a top club side?

Novel.

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Essentially, yes

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Originally Posted by SkStu

xH = (((ToG + SoG) - xG)) + (AP*IQ)) / RQO + GN

expected happiness = (((Type of Goal + Style of Goal) - xG)) + (Age of Player * Irish Quotient)) / Relative Quality of Opposition + Game Narrative

A starting point anyway. We'll wait for Snappers to weigh in though.

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More commonly referred to as the Strichter scale.

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Originally Posted by Razors left peg

Just curious if the standard of opposition allows for Parrotts goal to be celebrated? Are they L1 standard, Championship?? I need to know before I can tell if its a good thing that he got the winning goal in a European game. Also, it was a penalty, does that even count?

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Ask your SkSvengali. His theorem embraces goals from lesser gods in lesser leagues. Every goal is celebrated, every opponent worthy. At last, Scott Hogan and Will Keane can be celebrated as two of our greatest goalscorers.

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Originally Posted by SkStu

xH = (((ToG + SoG) - xG)) + (AP*IQ)) / RQO + GN

expected happiness = (((Type of Goal + Style of Goal) - xG)) + (Age of Player * Irish Quotient)) / Relative Quality of Opposition + Game Narrative

A starting point anyway. We'll wait for Snappers to weigh in though.

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All [ ] x 0 if scored for Celtic

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Originally Posted by Snapshot

Ask your SkSvengali. His theorem embraces goals from lesser gods in lesser leagues. Every goal is celebrated, every opponent worthy. At last, Scott Hogan and Will Keane can be celebrated as two of our greatest goalscorers.

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SkSvengali :D :D

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Originally Posted by SkStu

SkSvengali :D :D

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Its a better name than what I usually call you !!!

That poor horse is flogged to the bone, lads. Time to send it to the glue factory.

Some interesting quotes here from a Dutch journalist:
https://www.independent.ie/sport/soc.../a3254868.html


I liked the chant they sang.

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“After the game, fans chanted, ‘Parrott’s on fire’ to Freed From Desire,” says Broxterman. “What I wrote is that he was freed from desire at that moment… from wanting to score that one goal, and after that, it was like a ketchup bottle – waiting for it to pop and then it starts to flow.

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It'd be nice to have something to mix in with "Ireland (clap-clap-clap)" and ... I dunno. The Fields of Athenry? Lansdowne wasn't in singing form any time I've been recently.

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Fans at the AFAS Stadium appeared to take to the new arrival almost instantly, handing him an inflatable parrot from the crowd after his home debut – a narrow win over NEC Nijmegen.

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Pungate bedamned! Anyone have a photo?

Can do better than that

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Originally Posted by John83

That poor horse is flogged to the bone, lads. Time to send it to the glue factory.

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It's relevant if consistency means anything.

The 'age of player' part of SkStu's equation is relevant. As is knowledge of said player's known limitations at international level, career trajectory and ceiling for improvement.

For example, if Ike Orazi gets on for Reims and scores in Ligue 1, it's going to generate more excitement than, say, James Collins scoring for Derby or Callum Robinson scoring for Cardiff.

Are you saying the level of excitement generated varies inversely to the age of the player in question?
https://frinkiac.com/img/S02E01/845622.jpg

Scores again tonight, against Utrecht.

I think that's 16 goals in his last 16 games at club level

Interview with Parrott, or at least extended comments from a presser.
https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2024...-ireland-fold/

Parrott interviewed ahead of return to Spurs with AZ
https://www.skysports.com/football/n...isie-sensation

Had a full game against spurs. Was anonymous in the first half and had a few good moments in the second. I was watching his off the ball movement and he really needs to improve his hold up play. Had a couple of lovely through balls but yeah, I wouldn't be comfortable with him starting a game where we know we won't have possession for 70 minutes.

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Originally Posted by rebelmusic

Had a full game against spurs. Was anonymous in the first half and had a few good moments in the second. I was watching his off the ball movement and he really needs to improve his hold up play. Had a couple of lovely through balls but yeah, I wouldn't be comfortable with him starting a game where we know we won't have possession for 70 minutes.

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Funny how 2 people can watch the same game and come away with completely different opinions. Id completely disagree that he was anonymous in first half, thought he worked his socks off in the 1st half in particular. As the central striker he spent so much of his time defending on the edge of his own box. Multiple times he was covering in the full back positions too. I thought he was actually a bit quieter in the 2nd half when he tended to stay further forward as they were a goal down. Thought his movement off the ball was good and there was a few times he made some off the ball runs that really should have been found with the ball by his team mates.

I wouldnt say he was brilliant yesterday, but he was good and Id trust him in our team a lot more than some others in games where we have smaller amount of possession because of his work rate and willingness to defend.

Scores a penalty.

A goal scoring striker in the top flight of Netherlands, Scotland and England this weekend.

Credited with an assist too and they went 2-0 up but drew 2-2 in the end.

Likes a goal against Feyenoord

rested / dropped? for AZ today.

Probably just rotated as they're playing both domestic and European football at the moment. But maybe telling all the same that they don't see him as being completely undroppable.

Back in the line-up for today's bit game at how to Ajax - and scores to put them 1-0 up with 25 to go.

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Back in the line-up for today's bit game at how to Ajax - and scores to put them 1-0 up with 25 to go.

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Took his chance well.

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Originally Posted by Demesne Lad

Took his chance well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNeeNLhXmNA

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Was it ~ Hippy Grandad in goal day at Ajax ? !