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12/04/2015, 3:38 AM
Crosby87

Well chaps I just spent a few minutes trying to find something negative about JO on any and I mean any Sunderland Message board....sfa ...could not do it....
12/04/2015, 3:40 AM
Colbert Report

Can you give us a link to said forums? Not that I don't believe you, but I watched the match today and he would have been rated 1/10 in my estimation
12/04/2015, 3:40 AM
Crosby87

By the way Colbert....are you a mountie? :confused:
12/04/2015, 3:41 AM
Colbert Report

I am not, although I did apply to become one several years ago.
12/04/2015, 7:53 AM
DannyInvincible

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Originally Posted by Crosby87

Well chaps I just spent a few minutes trying to find something negative about JO on any and I mean any Sunderland Message board....sfa ...could not do it....

The whole team played terribly, so perhaps that disperses some of the attention away from him from a Sunderland supporters perspective. I've not had a look, but I'm sure there must be something on his performance. Either way, I'm singling him out because he was the only Ireland player in the side and I'd be worrying if I saw him play like he did yesterday in an Ireland shirt.

From the Guardian report: http://www.theguardian.com/football/...e-match-report

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Originally Posted by The Guardian

With Santiago Vergini and John O’Shea suddenly succumbing to some alarming wobbles, Sunderland appeared to have regressed to their bad old selves.

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Their surrender was confirmed when another punt forward concluded with the game’s outstanding individual holding off O’Shea before showing off stellar technique in chipping the keeper.

The Ireland centre-half’s misery deepened when Murray bullied him out of possession, permitting Bolasie to round Pantilimon and complete a richly deserved hat-trick.

From the Sunderland Echo: http://www.sunderlandecho.com/sport/...cats-1-7204971

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Originally Posted by Sunderland Echo

The excellent Yannick Bolasie helped himself to an 11-minute hat-trick, with Sunderland skipper John O’Shea repeatedly exposed by the pace in the Palace attack.

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Three minutes later, Palace doubled their advantage as Sunderland’s defence was caught sleeping.

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Sunderland were fortunate not to concede a fourth on the hour mark, when O’Shea’s awful touch propelled Murray in behind the home defence, but with Pantilimon advancing out of his goal, the striker lobbed a cross-come-shoot wide of the mark.

But Sunderland’s resistance remained powder-puff and the collapse continued in the 62nd minute as, yet again, Advocaat’s men failed to deal with a routine high ball forwards.

O’Shea utterly misjudged the flight off the ball and then was bounced off it by Murray, with referee Anthony Taylor waving play on.

Sky Sports rated himself and Vergini as Sunderland's worst-performing players with 4/10: http://www1.skysports.com/football/l.../313702/report
12/04/2015, 2:04 PM
Stuttgart88

I only saw MOTD and O'Shea looked slow and weak against Bolasie for two of the goals. By the same token though it looked like the Red Sea had parted in midfield too, so a CB was always going to be exposed. Sunderland don't have a Glenn Whelan :)
13/04/2015, 8:21 AM
GypsyBlackCat

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Originally Posted by Crosby87

Well chaps I just spent a few minutes trying to find something negative about JO on any and I mean any Sunderland Message board....sfa ...could not do it....

It would be unfair to single out O'Shea as the whole team was terrible. You could have put Terry or Kompany in that defence and they'd be terrible:D

Sadly O'Shea's days as a top flight player over (just as SAFC's days as a top flight team is over) but at least O'Shea will put a shift in. The 4-3-3 formation didn't help with the pace on the wings for Palace. Plus when you have players like Rodwell and Gomez in front of you with their hearts the size of a pea in front of you, you're going to struggle. But at least O'Shea is putting the effort in and cares about the team. He is one of a handful of players who can hold their head up and say he tried. You can't fault him for that. It's a shame his best days are gone:cry:
14/04/2015, 4:43 PM
tricky_colour

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Originally Posted by the doc

I like OShea, but if I were MON I'd be on the phone to SSL now!

What so you could get your picture taken with Taylor Swift?
14/04/2015, 4:44 PM
tricky_colour

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Originally Posted by DeLorean

The timing isn't too great with regards who's actually available, I don't think. They could do with a Pulis or Big Sam to put them on the right track.

Not to mention Roy Keane.
17/04/2015, 9:31 AM
jbyrne

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Originally Posted by GypsyBlackCat

It would be unfair to single out O'Shea as the whole team was terrible.

o'shea was singled out for praise after their recent win over Newcastle and made the BBCs team of the week. I think his season has been marked with some excellent performances and some dreadful ones also
17/04/2015, 10:04 AM
Ol� Ol�

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Originally Posted by jbyrne

o'shea was singled out for praise after their win over Newcastle and made the BBCs team of the week. I think his season has been marked with some excellent performances and some dreadful ones also

That's true but it's hard to blame him for the dreadful ones. When O'Shea has been caught out, it's often been in games where he's been under heavy pressure due to the fact that much of the rest of the side are in disarray and, in particular, they can't keep possession in the final third. They're also porous in midfield with Cattermole ploughing a lone furrow, and he hasn't been available always.

I think O'Shea has been victim more of poor management and teammates than he has been victim of old age or inability. I'm probably biased in saying that but I think the fact that he still manages to put in stellar performances demonstrates that his powers haven't waned completely.
17/04/2015, 10:13 AM
GypsyBlackCat

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Originally Posted by Ol� Ol�

That's true but it's hard to blame him for the dreadful ones. When O'Shea has been caught out, it's often been in games where he's been under heavy pressure due to the fact that much of the rest of the side are in disarray and, in particular, they can't keep possession in the final third. They're also porous in midfield with Cattermole ploughing a lone furrow, and he hasn't been available always.

I think O'Shea has been victim more of poor management and teammates than he has been victim of old age or inability. I'm probably biased in saying that but I think the fact that he still manages to put in stellar performances demonstrates that his powers haven't waned completely.

I agree. To single him out is unfair. At least you know JOS will put a shift in and won't let you down for commitment. His best days are behind him now but still he has being a key player for SAFC. Sunderland are more or less a Championship side playing in the Premier League.
20/05/2015, 8:52 PM
Charlie Darwin

Josh will be a Premier League player for another year. A clean sheet at the Emirates helps Sunderland to get the points they need to stay up. Man of the match too.
03/08/2015, 1:18 PM
TheOneWhoKnocks

Analysis - Will it be Kaboul or O’Shea in defence for Sunderland at Leicester?

http://www.sunderlandecho.com/sport/...ster-1-7388912
08/08/2015, 2:26 PM
TheOneWhoKnocks

Looks like they should have went with O'Shea....
15/08/2015, 2:29 PM
TheOneWhoKnocks

Now 5 goals conceded in 2 hours of football for Sunderland.

Come on, Dick. You are being stubborn. Redeploy O'Shea.

Edit: 6 goals conceded in just over 2 hours of football for Sunderland.

Tick tock, Dick. Tick. Tock.

Edit: A combined 7 goals conceded against the mighty Leicester and Norwich now.
17/08/2015, 8:07 AM
GypsyBlackCat

If your manager thinks Younes Kaboul is better than you it's time to retire John!!!

JOS legs have gone and may that's the reason but he still has it up top. You can see how badly organize the defence and the team is without O'Shea.
17/08/2015, 11:42 AM
Charlie Darwin

His legs seem OK when he plays for Ireland. Perhaps more legs are required for the sort of aimless running about Sunderland specialise in.
21/08/2015, 5:11 PM
Ol� Ol�

http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/n...-previews.html

John O'Shea to return to the Sunderland side. Advocaat stating he was dropped due to pre-season performances. I reckon they were just a blip because, I'll say it again, he was pretty imperious against Scotland quite recently.
22/08/2015, 1:51 PM
DeLorean

Yeah, starts instead of Kaboul.
22/08/2015, 2:21 PM
Charlie Darwin

0-0 after 20 minutes so his legs seem to be holding up.
22/08/2015, 3:01 PM
Colbert Report

Two and a half matches into the season and Sunderland are now two to one on to get relegated.
24/08/2015, 1:51 PM
GypsyBlackCat

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Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin

0-0 after 20 minutes so his legs seem to be holding up.

What are you on about broken brain? He's 34, of course he's not going to have the same level of fitness as he did 3/4 years ago. He looked a yard or two of the pace in pre-season. But his experience and leadership is vital. You could see how well the defense was organized on Saturday. He's an intelligent player so he knows he has to have those '5 yards of pace' in his head. You're making it out as if I said he was in a wheelchair!!!!
26/08/2015, 9:10 AM
OwlsFan

Saw him being out jumped for one of the Exeter goals last night. We need O'Shea at the top of his game.
03/10/2015, 2:17 PM
DeLorean

Starts at home to West Ham as Sunderland take an early lead through Fletcher.
25/10/2015, 11:37 AM
DeLorean

Gone off with hamstring injury in derby!
16/12/2015, 9:39 AM
tetsujin1979

Didn't see it posted here, made his 400th Premier League appearance last weekend. According to OptaJoe, Richard Dunne and Shay Given are the only other Irish players to have done this: https://twitter.com/OptaJoe/status/675678683689033730?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

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400 - John O’Shea will be the third Republic of Ireland player to reach 400 PL apps after Shay Given (443) & Richard Dunne (431). Charm.

I looked up who the Irish player with the next highest amount of Premier League appearances, and currently playing in the Premier League, is.

Was a little surprised actually, any guesses?
16/12/2015, 9:45 AM
DeLorean

Glenn Whelan or James McCarthy? I'd probably go with Whelan out of those two for obvious reasons but McCarthy has a serious amount played for his age, so wouldn't be surprised if it was him.
16/12/2015, 10:09 AM
OwlsFan

Right so we have a choice of Coleman, McCarthy, Gibson, Wilson, Brady, Hoolahan, McLean, Whelan, McGeady, Long and Walters (hope I haven't forgotton anyone obvious there). Has to be Whelan ??
16/12/2015, 10:11 AM
DeLorean

Just thought of Given? Is he considered 'in the squad' seeing as he only missed out through injury? Technically he's still in the PL too, if not quite 'playing' in the PL.
16/12/2015, 10:12 AM
tetsujin1979

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Originally Posted by DeLorean

Glenn Whelan or James McCarthy? I'd probably go with Whelan out of those two for obvious reasons but McCarthy has a serious amount played for his age, so wouldn't be surprised if it was him.

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Originally Posted by OwlsFan

Right so we have a choice of Coleman, McCarthy, Gibson, Wilson, Brady, Hoolahan, McLean, Whelan, McGeady, Long and Walters (hope I haven't forgotton anyone obvious there). Has to be Whelan ??

Nope, none of those. Whelan was my first thought too, but he's second on the list.

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Originally Posted by DeLorean

Just thought of Given? Is he considered 'in the squad' seeing as he only missed out through injury? Technically he's still in the PL too, if not quite 'playing' in the PL.

Given's ahead of O'Shea on 443 appearances, I'm looking for the player who's after O'Shea, and currently in the Premier League

Keane has 343 Premier League appearances, but is playing in MLS so it's not him either
16/12/2015, 10:18 AM
DeLorean

Had a look through the most recent squad and I'm completed baffled. Can't see how anybody else in it could have played more than Given/Whelan/McCarthy. Extended squad member, perhaps?
16/12/2015, 10:21 AM
Yard of Pace

Stephen Ireland perhaps?
16/12/2015, 10:24 AM
Yard of Pace

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Originally Posted by DeLorean

Had a look through the most recent squad and I'm completed baffled. Can't see how anybody else in it could have played more than Given/Whelan/McCarthy. Extended squad member, perhaps?

The original question just asked for a Republic of Ireland player still playing in the EPL.
16/12/2015, 10:51 AM
tetsujin1979

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Originally Posted by Yard of Pace

Stephen Ireland perhaps?

Very good, its Stephen Ireland, with 235 appearances. He's not the first player you'd think of, but he's been playing regularly since 2005, and never outside the PL.
Whelan's just behind him on 226, then Walters, McCarthy and Long
16/12/2015, 11:36 AM
Yard of Pace

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Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

He's not the first player you'd think of,

He actually was the first player I thought of! I knew it'd be someone odd, and not only do they not come much odder than Mr. Ireland, but he's been playing EPL football for the best part of 10 years now.

Y'know, I bet at the time, with Stan in charge, he never thought his stayaway antics would mean he'd miss playing in a tournament for Ireland. Fair chance it'll be four by the time he hangs up his boots and flys off into the sunset with his angel wings and Superman y-fronts....
13/02/2016, 1:57 PM
DeLorean

BT's man of the match in Sunderland's 2-1 win over Man Utd today.
13/02/2016, 2:21 PM
SkStu

Only saw the last 20 minutes and he was very good. The only leader on the park actually. I think he'll have enjoyed this win too.
13/02/2016, 3:17 PM
DeLorean

I only saw second half and to be honest it wasn't exactly backs to the wall stuff for Sunderland, they were comfortably the better side.
06/03/2016, 12:43 PM
OwlsFan

Brought on as a sub with a couple of minutes to go to protect the 0-1 advantage for Sunderland and loses his man for the goal :(

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