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Even if McShane did turn down a call-up, I'm sure people would chastise for turning his back on his country. It's a no-win situation for him. Ultimately, responsibility lies with Trapattoni. If anyone's to be criticised for McShane lining out for us, unfortunately, it's Trap. Obviously, nobody in their right mind is going to turn down playing for their country. Unless they're Stephen Ireland. Then again, it's debatable as to whether or not he has a right mind at all...
debatable?
I don't think anyone would seriously wish injury on him, but if he misses out and Kelly/Foley get the chance to show what they can do in a competitive international, it would be of enormous benefit to us in my opinion
Wish ill-will on McShane and something bad is bound to happen to someone crucial. Like Shay, or Robbie, or Dunney Monster.
Karma's a coont like that.
Our system is stagnant without a full back in the vein of Coleman, but of course he would have to be competent at defending.
Indeed. He must be one of the greatest professionals of all time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sullivinho
Amusing beginning to this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1g_X...eature=related
Paul McShane has signed for Barnsley on loan
Barnsley Website
Call this guy up!
Wonder if Crosby, Charlie Darwin, Geysir etc still reckon McShane belongs in the Premier League. Think its time to accept you were wrong.
He only moved down 6 league positions. Not that big of a drop.Quote:
Originally Posted by ofjames
I don't remember saying he was good enough for the epl.Quote:
Originally Posted by ofjames
When he was at Hull in the epl, I said he had every chance to be good enough, but the odds were against it happening.
I thought he would have gone straight back down to the championship level when struggling with Sunderland.
I dont remember saying anything about him ever! But then again, I do like the occasional internet sports message board/ pimms cup combination. No one listens to me anyway so no harm no foul I guess.
Not a fan of 'I told you so' posts, especially given McShane has many years ahead of him. I'm not a McShane fan but I wouldn't be surprised to see him play in the Premier League again.Quote:
Originally Posted by ofjames
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Originally Posted by joe_denilson
Did you say the same when Andy Reid went out on loan to a team in the Championship even worse than Barnsley (i.e. the Blunts)? Sean St Ledger, our incumbent centre half, is playing for the bottom team in the Championship.Quote:
Originally Posted by ofjames
Too early to write his Irish obituary particularly since we're not exactly flush with cover in the defence.
It's not, he's ****e.Quote:
Originally Posted by OwlsFan
Sorry that was immature. We've plenty of cover across the backline now.
Right full, Josh, Kelly, Foley, Coleman
Centre half Dunney, Ledger, Josh, kelly (at a push) O'Dea, Clark
All of those players are better options than Paul McShane. Even at centre half, Duffy if we were really stuck. Wilson has EPL experience at centre half.
McShane's time in the Irish squad should be coming to an end.
I still think McShane is good enough for the Premier League but he'll have to earn his way back.
Premier League in Scotland maybeQuote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Yep i remember some mentioned how its early days and his timing, concentration were suspect.Quote:
Originally Posted by ofjames
That's only 8 for 4 places and I for one would not select O'Dea ahead of McShane. At least the latter has some pace to make up for his mistakes and he's also better in the air but the point I was making anyway is that the mere fact that he's gone to Barnsley doesn't mean he's finished as an Irish international.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kingdom