Is the carling nations cup a UEFA/FIFA recognised compeition i.e. if we beat macedonia/scotland and NI would it make any difference to getting into top 18? How would we have looked had we beaten Uruguay?
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Is the carling nations cup a UEFA/FIFA recognised compeition i.e. if we beat macedonia/scotland and NI would it make any difference to getting into top 18? How would we have looked had we beaten Uruguay?
Yes friendlies count so it makes the NI, Scotland, Macedonia and potential friendly in New York against Italy absolutely crucial. Had we beaten Uruguay we probably would have climbed substantially considering they are 7th in the world. I know not many people pay attention to FIFA rankings but they are vitally important when it comes to seedings for qualification.
They are now, thats not how it used to be. I think it should go on qualification on previous tournaments like it used to. That said we would still probably be 3rd seeds this time around, but assuming we finish 2nd again this year then we would have been 2nd for 2016.
I'm pretty sure any friendly in the US will not be FIFA recognised.
The seeding for the 2010 WC qualification draw was based on the FIFA rankings for the first time, afaiaa.
All official international friendlies are counted in the FIFA rankings.
The Carling/Celtic cup games are not FIFA/UEFA competitions but have the same status in regards to points in the FIFA rankings, as our friendlies in the USA, no more - no less.
Correct me if I'm wrong but were the wc2010 qualifiers drawn in January 2008?
If that's the case why are these qualifiers for 2014 being drawn so early?
Has there been some change? Usually the draw for the WC qualifiers happens a few months after the Euro qualifiers are finished and vice versa.
Echo... yeah what he said... maybe its to ensure we're Defo in the 3rd pot, you know how Sep loves us, the cwiss sunt.
Yes it is crazy that the draw is being made before the outcome of the Euro qualifiers is even known but the reasoning behind it is that this world cup will be in South America and the South American qualification having 18 games during the qualifiers is much longer than the European qualification procedure and thus always starts much earlier in advance of the tournament, thus why all the other federations draws are being made so early.
I agree with you paul o shea, the old system would have benefited us more but in saying that the current system would have benefitted us much more in the Brian Kerr era, in that he left when we were 14th in the world (primarily due to an impecable record in friendlies and always playing our strongest XI in them and not treating them for the desired purpose of experimentation).
Like for example Norway have not done anything for years, all of a sudden, they are doing well half way through their campaign and are now top seeds. But in fairness its good to see little old Montenegro getting reward for their efforts so early in their existence as a footballing nation. I think I might be right in saying Croatia beat their seeding to qualify for their first tournament ever as an independent nation in Euro 96, so it would be equally impressive if Montenegro could almost emulate such an achievement.
Why might Bosnia be disqualified?Quote:
Originally Posted by French Toasht
They were suspended from competition on the 1st of April over their football association failing to appoint a single president in place of its three-man set-up where a Serb, Croat and Bosniak-Muslim all shared power. FIFA have since imposed a "normalisation committee" of their own to govern the association, however, enabling Bosnia to compete once again, so I don't know how likely disqualification is at this current moment in time. Probably not very.
Think you're right there. I don't recall a European nation ever being disqualified (for reasons other than out and out war). Some (Greece most recently) have been suspended and have fairly quickly done what UEFA wanted, and so were let back in. I'd imagine Bosnia will do the same (and I think I saw somewhere that they already have taken steps).Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
Draw time again though; love that time! :)
Vladimir Weiss out for the season. Who do Slovakia play in June?
Lazy! :p
Andorra at home.
Andorra, in Slovakia. So all in all, it matters little. He is a decent player though, so if it means that his pre-season is only a recuperation and he's under-par for the start of next season, when we play them, then happy days. Not that I'd wish ill-will on him, or them, karma etc....Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
I have you with 0.03% chance of landing in the second pot :)Quote:
Originally Posted by French Toasht
2014 FIFA World Cup seeding (UEFA): 10000 simulations
What other friendlies besides the Nations Cup do you have planned? I know Italy canceled their USA tour.
so you're saying there's a chance...Quote:
Originally Posted by Edgar
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_gAwTMATXyB...pc/s320/dd.bmp
I love that moive, thats exactly what i thought when i read the 0.03%. Brilliant.
You mean, not good like one out of a hundred? I'd say more like one out of a million. :D
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