Clare League 2006/07

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Originally Posted by leftie

I think he was being sarcastic. Perhaps it's not Moher's doing, maybe the only ref who will travel to Moher is a devout catholic so won't work on a Sunday.

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Thank god someone realised that :) :) its rubbish to expect a team to travel friday night to Liscannor play match at seven

lads would all this moher crap still be going on if they were bottom of the league with no points? honestly would ye ever give over

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Originally Posted by 3rd booking

lads would all this moher crap still be going on if they were bottom of the league with no points? honestly would ye ever give over

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Yes it would and should.2 years ago the same stroke was pulled when mountshannon declared they could only play on Friday night.

Why dont all the other clubs ring Mike Lydon and Jim Madden and say they only want to play on Sunday!!!!But if we all just keep moaning on this website nothing will happen

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Originally Posted by 3rd booking

lads would all this moher crap still be going on if they were bottom of the league with no points? honestly would ye ever give over

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Its probably would, But the fact is they are fighting for the tital and are getting every chance to win it because they don't have to play when it clashes with GAA. They are located in the back of nowhere so trying to get out there to play on weekdays is a joke, at least at weekend (sunday) teams can make the journey with no problems. They (Mohar) are getting favour's because they have GAA players on their team, Lets not forget GAA is a different sport so why accomadate it.Ive said this before, If the GAA have a game on that clashes with Football "soccer", do they refix or cancel their games, NO, and rightly so, so why do the Clare League:confused:

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Originally Posted by shelbourne1904

Yes it would and should.2 years ago the same stroke was pulled when mountshannon declared they could only play on Friday night.

Why dont all the other clubs ring Mike Lydon and Jim Madden and say they only want to play on Sunday!!!!But if we all just keep moaning on this website nothing will happen

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Thats my point the ways its goin we might as well call it bitchfest.ie

A piece of history will accurr tomorrow evening that may ripple through the anals of time. A group of young men will head to the fabled and feared land of the north west of Clare to battle the now mythical giants of the men from Moher. A group of men known as the Olympians, they carry the hopes and fears of many on their young shoulders, that they can vanquish this monster whose tentacles are spreading to the once powerful bastions of a game called soccer in Clare. Hopes are high that at least a wound can be inflicted on these giants so that the job can be completed by another formerly feared group of men from Tradaree. This is ever looking less and less likely because the stories abound of sorcery and witchcraft been part of the armoury of the men who worship the cliffs.They have taken over the minds , it is said of the leaders and organisers of said battles and have managed to engage all comers at times when they are at their weakest. This they say is only happening because of these giants worship of another God known far and wide in the country of Hibernia as the GAA. Let us hope that these barve 11 from Olympia do not become the latest sacrifices to the Gods that live , it is said at the bottom of the cliffs and only rise as the sun rises on the day of the Moon and again on the twilight of the week.

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Originally Posted by hairy

that is the best piece of writing I have ever seen on this site. EXCELLENT. Some people might say you have too much time on your hands but me I think its a stoke of genius.

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These mythical giants can only be seen on Mondays and Fridays

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Originally Posted by First

A piece of history will accurr tomorrow evening that may ripple through the anals of time. A group of young men will head to the fabled and feared land of the north west of Clare to battle the now mythical giants of the men from Moher. A group of men known as the Olympians, they carry the hopes and fears of many on their young shoulders, that they can vanquish this monster whose tentacles are spreading to the once powerful bastions of a game called soccer in Clare. Hopes are high that at least a wound can be inflicted on these giants so that the job can be completed by another formerly feared group of men from Tradaree. This is ever looking less and less likely because the stories abound of sorcery and witchcraft been part of the armoury of the men who worship the cliffs.They have taken over the minds , it is said of the leaders and organisers of said battles and have managed to engage all comers at times when they are at their weakest. This they say is only happening because of these giants worship of another God known far and wide in the country of Hibernia as the GAA. Let us hope that these barve 11 from Olympia do not become the latest sacrifices to the Gods that live , it is said at the bottom of the cliffs and only rise as the sun rises on the day of the Moon and again on the twilight of the week.

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excellent has to be the best post yet ,,, hail the olympians

A few questions i hope the wise men of the forum can answer.

Does anyone know the date of the A.G.M?

What has to be done to get Summer football discussed/ratified at said meeting? Shels perhaps you can guide us on that one if you were involved in schoolboy move to summer season.

Has anyone heard the facts on the "reserve" league proposed for next year consisting of only "b" teams?

p.s...great post First!

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Originally Posted by First

A piece of history will accurr tomorrow evening that may ripple through the anals of time. A group of young men will head to the fabled and feared land of the north west of Clare to battle the now mythical giants of the men from Moher. A group of men known as the Olympians, they carry the hopes and fears of many on their young shoulders, that they can vanquish this monster whose tentacles are spreading to the once powerful bastions of a game called soccer in Clare. Hopes are high that at least a wound can be inflicted on these giants so that the job can be completed by another formerly feared group of men from Tradaree. This is ever looking less and less likely because the stories abound of sorcery and witchcraft been part of the armoury of the men who worship the cliffs.They have taken over the minds , it is said of the leaders and organisers of said battles and have managed to engage all comers at times when they are at their weakest. This they say is only happening because of these giants worship of another God known far and wide in the country of Hibernia as the GAA. Let us hope that these barve 11 from Olympia do not become the latest sacrifices to the Gods that live , it is said at the bottom of the cliffs and only rise as the sun rises on the day of the Moon and again on the twilight of the week.

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POTM, Well done First, well done old chap;)

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Originally Posted by First

A piece of history will accurr tomorrow evening that may ripple through the anals of time. A group of young men will head to the fabled and feared land of the north west of Clare to battle the now mythical giants of the men from Moher. A group of men known as the Olympians, they carry the hopes and fears of many on their young shoulders, that they can vanquish this monster whose tentacles are spreading to the once powerful bastions of a game called soccer in Clare. Hopes are high that at least a wound can be inflicted on these giants so that the job can be completed by another formerly feared group of men from Tradaree. This is ever looking less and less likely because the stories abound of sorcery and witchcraft been part of the armoury of the men who worship the cliffs.They have taken over the minds , it is said of the leaders and organisers of said battles and have managed to engage all comers at times when they are at their weakest. This they say is only happening because of these giants worship of another God known far and wide in the country of Hibernia as the GAA. Let us hope that these barve 11 from Olympia do not become the latest sacrifices to the Gods that live , it is said at the bottom of the cliffs and only rise as the sun rises on the day of the Moon and again on the twilight of the week.

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so its oly v moher tomorrow then??

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Originally Posted by Sweetchips

A few questions i hope the wise men of the forum can answer.

Does anyone know the date of the A.G.M?

What has to be done to get Summer football discussed/ratified at said meeting? Shels perhaps you can guide us on that one if you were involved in schoolboy move to summer season.

Has anyone heard the facts on the "reserve" league proposed for next year consisting of only "b" teams?

p.s...great post First!

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It is a lot simpler to do junior football than schoolboys because you dont have to take into account a scenario where kids are forced to make a decision on which game they will play before they are old enough.

After that you could look at the GAA programe for the year and where there is no need to clash,avoid the days they play on.You might offer to meet the GAA at board level out of courtesy.Advise the clubs to do this at local level.If this cant be done so be it, decide a start and end date.Say May to October.Decide whether you will include or exclude weekdays,there maybe no need as you will get little or no weather cancellations.Talk to the referees so they know whats going on.Use Friday Saturday Sunday nights and days.You could ask the clubs to decide their home preference and give it to them.
You could include a holiday break but not absolutely neccessary as you will not agreement on which weeks due to the old "last week in July 1st week in August" no longer being the norm.Would suggest no games on August BAnk holiday weekend.
As far as I know this is being included in Liffords proposals to the AGM this year.This needs to be confirmed with them.If it is not then get them or some other club to do it written on the proposal form not verbally on the night.Get it seconded and voted in.Marjority rules so if you do an accesment of the real footbal clubs versus the half GAA lads,counting per team because its a vote per team,make sure you get a delegate per team there on the night then itshould be passed.Dont forget it cannot be talked down if it has a seconder.Make sure it is proposed to come into play for next year(May).
Appoint a summer soccer committee to discuss any other minor issues and plan the implemetation for next May with monthly progress reports back to the clubs at delegate meetings(do they still have them??).

Do not allow the threat of country clubs folding to stop you.Various reasons are put forward for this including farmers fields not being available as well as the GAA clash.It was not allowed stop the show in schoolboys despite this early scaremongering.
Lastly stress the fact that flooded pitches is no longer the problem.Long grass is

So basically you need to send a proposal to the commitee in writing A.S.A.P. and all proposals are heard on the night?

Anyone heard about this reserve league?
From what I hear (2nd hand), the 3rd division will be scrapped and the reserve division will consist of only B teams and there will be no promotion or relegation!! Except for current B teams in 1st and 2nd Division who will be relegated. The function it seems is to allow A team players play for the reserves if they need to!
Correct me if I am missing something here.......the Clare league on one hand cancel all Premier games for OT (who get hammered), then fix cup games for the day after and then try to drive any lad who plays for a B team out of the game so an out of sort A team player can get a game. Who are they actually serving?

Or am I wrong and could a reserve league change everything!!!

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Originally Posted by 3rd booking

so its oly v moher tomorrow then??

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Yes Olympic v Moher tomorrow night 19.00 kick off

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Originally Posted by hairy

POTM????:confused:

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Post Of The Month.

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Originally Posted by Spudd

Post Of The Month.

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Clever :)

"then try to drive any lad who plays for a B team out of the game so an out of sort A team player can get a game. Who are they actually serving?"

The reason our club started a second team was as a reserve team to give any player ,who was not choosen in the first team,a game.In other words all signed players were open to selection for the first team.NEVER and I repeat NEVER to only be available for selection for the second team.

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Originally Posted by smellyfeet

Clever :)

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As long as you liked it,thats all thats matters to me....In the famous words of a Ms.Bette Midler....

''Did you ever know that you're my hero, and everything I would like to be? I can fly higher than an eagle, for you are the wind beneath my wings''

Oh so true..;)

If the Clare league did get rid of the sides who have GAA players it would be a massive incentive to players to come back to the league. reason being travelling to moher on a friday evening because they have a GAA match saturday and the boys want to go on the lash afterwards. its a disgrace.[/QUOTE]

There is a clear prejudice here. I notice this site is anti GAA. We have a couple of players playing both codes and are very committed to both. I also think that while moher shouldn't get preferential treatment on what days they play games, many people posting are annoyed a team from north clare can win the league. Soccer doesn't just exist to serve clubs in shannon and ennis.

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Originally Posted by Young Lad

If the Clare league did get rid of the sides who have GAA players it would be a massive incentive to players to come back to the league. reason being travelling to moher on a friday evening because they have a GAA match saturday and the boys want to go on the lash afterwards. its a disgrace.

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There is a clear prejudice here. I notice this site is anti GAA. We have a couple of players playing both codes and are very committed to both. I also think that while moher shouldn't get preferential treatment on what days they play games, many people posting are annoyed a team from north clare can win the league. Soccer doesn't just exist to serve clubs in shannon and ennis.[/QUOTE]




Dont think people mind a team from north clare winning or doing well the problem here is the fact teams are been made to make the long journeys to Liscannor on friday nights and monday nights why cant they arrange fixtures for sat or sunday so it would be easier for teams to travel. There is no point in a club saying they dont want to travel to Liscannor on those nights as they will be told that is when game is on.

many people posting are annoyed a team from north clare can win the league. Soccer doesn't just exist to serve clubs in shannon and ennis.[/QUOTE]

Rubbish, Not true at all.

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Originally Posted by hacker

any truth newmarket told clare league they won't travel to moher on monday..

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Fair play to them if they did.

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Originally Posted by hacker

any truth newmarket told clare league they won't travel to moher on monday..

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No there is no truth in this. Newmarket had requested this weekend off as 1 of the lads involved with the club is having his stag this weekend, then they find that they are down to play Moher on Monday evening when most of the group are only scheduled to comeback on Monday.
It looks again as this is another indication of Moher receiving beneficial treatment from the League. And before anyone else starts harping on about people having a problem with Moher winning the league, I can tell you no one from Newmarket has a problem with it. If they win the league , good luck to them , but as most would agree the treatment of other clubs by the Clare League in facilitating Moher leaves alot of open questions. Newmarket will fulfil their fixture but with a very weakened side , unfair on the other clubs challenging for the league and also unfair on Newmarket who need points to avoid having the best facilities in the first division. :mad:

[QUOTE=First;673878]No there is no truth in this. Newmarket had requested this weekend off as 1 of the lads involved with the club is having his stag this weekend, then they find that they are down to play Moher on Monday evening when most of the group are only scheduled to comeback on Monday.
It looks again as this is another indication of Moher receiving beneficial treatment from the League. And before anyone else starts harping on about people having a problem with Moher winning the league, I can tell you no one from Newmarket has a problem with it. If they win the league , good luck to them , but as most would agree the treatment of other clubs by the Clare League in facilitating Moher leaves alot of open questions. Newmarket will fulfil their fixture but with a very weakened side , unfair on the other clubs challenging for the league and also unfair on Newmarket who need points to avoid having the best facilities in the first division. :mad:[/Q Sounds like you need to get this match cancelled if obviously doesnt suit ye.Time to play the olde moher card worth a try anyhow

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Originally Posted by 3rd booking

[/Q Sounds like you need to get this match cancelled if obviously doesnt suit ye.Time to play the olde moher card worth a try anyhow

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Do you actually know how the whole thing works???. Newmarket have already put their case to Lydon and he has refused...yet he allows Moher play when they want. They do not play ANY sundays because it doesn't suit them. Newmarket did not want a game THIS Sunday or Monday..a one time request...and guess what...they have a match on Monday ...................... go figure that one out:eek: :mad:

"The reason our club started a second team was as a reserve team to give any player ,who was not choosen in the first team,a game.In other words all signed players were open to selection for the first team.NEVER and I repeat NEVER to only be available for selection for the second team."

I never implied your club restrict players playing for the A team. My point is that if you are a player not good enough for your club A team and "current" A team players get a run ahead of you to get fit or whatever you would get tired of this and either go elsewhere or give up.

At my club the set up is the same any b team player has the opportunity to make it on to the A team but the reality is that if you are not getting a game you will get fed up, add to that the prospect of no promotion then what is the motivation for a lad who is not A team material........in my opinion this will drive out the honest lads who always turn up on a Sunday morning for a div 3 game as opposed to some of the prima donnas that are around....

I am interested to hear what exactly are the facts, at the moment i think its a bad idea but perhaps once the rules are known it could be the way to go...but all the factors for ALL the players have to be discussed not just the needs of OT and premier teams.

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Originally Posted by papa-j

Do you actually know how the whole thing works???. Newmarket have already put their case to Lydon and he has refused...yet he allows Moher play when they want. They do not play ANY sundays because it doesn't suit them. Newmarket did not want a game THIS Sunday or Monday..a one time request...and guess what...they have a match on Monday ...................... go figure that one out:eek: :mad:

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Sounds like you dont know how it works either pops.It was just a suggestion didnt realise they tried to get it called can the powers of the clare league be overthrown and maybe a democracy can finally rule???:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Sweetchips

"but all the factors for ALL the players have to be discussed not just the needs of OT and premier teams.

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no matter what you do it will upset somebody...its how you do it. Any decisions should be openly discussed,explained and voted for within the clubs an then voted for by the club delegates at the league meetings. Clubs need to decide the fuction of their B or C teams...are they there

1. exist completely separately from the A team and accomdate players of all levels who want to enjoy a game of football. Including ex A team players who have stepped down for what ever reason.

2. exist to develop / improve players who aspire to play for the A team and help them make the step. Including youth players who might be stepping up to junior football for the first time.

I dont think any decisions can be made until clubs decide the role of B teams.

I'm delighted to hear about this reserve league and hope it happens...

Currently players with Lifford B, well capable of playing in the Premier, refuse to play with the Lifford A. They want to get promoted with their teammates on the B team, which I understand, but they are hurting the club doing so.


Hopefully the reserve league might change this situation!

Why would anybody prefer to play at a lower level than they are capable of playing in the Premier?

The Moher manager is a ref in Clare, is it any wonder they are getting special treatment.

newmarket1 bridge celtic 3




it will be interesting to see if moher be happy about coming up to o briens bridge on a monday or friday night or will they look for it to be played on a sunday......

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Originally Posted by Ice-man

The Moher manager is a ref in Clare, is it any wonder they are getting special treatment.

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Iceman, just to clear up your mis information for you. Registered Clare Referees are not allowed to be involved with Clubs, which is why most of them are ageing ex players.
Clubs were given the option of sending in representatives to do a Referee's Course at the start of the Season, to help out with Schoolboy fixtures due to the shortage of Referees. These candidates who did the course were to help out at Schoolboy level, they were not intended to be used in Junior Football but like everything else the League tries, it seems to have back fired.
The Moher Manager, or any other manager is not a member of the Clare League Referee's and doesn't get, nor will he get special treatment from Registered Referees.

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Originally Posted by gaffer

We requested a free weekend but were not given it had to travel to Moher reason we were given by the clare lge was there was an official ref down for the match and could not reschedule. Got down to Moher and Moher manager was the ref. Lyden just laughed when we question this. Any other club allowed to do this.

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INTERESTED - Just going by what I've read on this site.

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Originally Posted by Ice-man

INTERESTED - Just going by what I've read on this site.

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As stated before, the Moher Manager or anybody affiliated with any Club is not a member of the Clare League Referee's Association.
The point being made in the post you highlighted was that an Official Referee was appointed to do the game, but as he had not obviously turned up, the Moher manager did the game.
The away team could have refused to play the game without an Official Referee, but I know from my own playing days that if you travel a long distance for a game, the last thing you want is to refuse to play and have to travel back again at a later date.
If you win the game, no problem. Its when you dont that you start blaming the diabolic decisions of the home town referee or something/anything else.

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Originally Posted by Ice-man

INTERESTED - Just going by what I've read on this site.

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By the way, don't believe all you read on this site:rolleyes:

clareleague.com link offline but you can see it on www.freewebs.com/clareleague/index.htm

Any more club scorer updates guys - only Bridge Celtic and Rineanna scorers all accounted for...

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Originally Posted by Pretender

I'm delighted to hear about this reserve league and hope it happens...

Currently players with Lifford B, well capable of playing in the Premier, refuse to play with the Lifford A. They want to get promoted with their teammates on the B team, which I understand, but they are hurting the club doing so.


Hopefully the reserve league might change this situation!

Why would anybody prefer to play at a lower level than they are capable of playing in the Premier?

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I think this is a problem with most clubs that have an A and B team, players not wanting to play for the A team for what ever reason.
Some players would leave the club rather than play for the A team not something you would want in a local community.
How many B team managers would be happy to be involved in a situation where the players available to them each week is dictated by the A team manager not many I would guess.

Caught some of the Newtown Avenue match last night.
Credit to both teams for a very entertaining game but the quality of some of the football was poor - miskicks and mistakes from both sides - probably because of the pitch. The surface was absolutely awful - what has happened to Lees Road - bumps and holes all over it. You would expect these 2 premier sides to be able to string good passing moves together but with the surface that was impossible.
If summer soccer means having to play on bumpy pitches like that its time to forget it.

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Originally Posted by townie

and if avenue beat ye which is the more likely and ye lose yer game in hand ye will be about 2 places off relegation which is where ye finish most years after a season of talkin yerselves up for nothin! :)
we are nicely placed but sayin that i wudnt be overly confident as in a newtown way of winnin the league! still hve lots of tough games left :cool:

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well what happened the overhyped / talked up newtown beat the mighty inform avenue last night :(

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Originally Posted by chappie

newmarket1 bridge celtic 3




it will be interesting to see if moher be happy about coming up to o briens bridge on a monday or friday night or will they look for it to be played on a sunday......

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Well done to bridge celtic last night.Well worth the win and never stopped attacking.Can someone tell me who scored bridge celtics second goal.One of the best goals i have ever seen.