Trapattoni - who would you replace him with?

Ah anytime i used to hear the term "reliable source" or a "confirmed source" etc, i thought it was made up mickey mouse journalism. Now I know it means they have Data, gathered usually through dirty means but generally its correct.

I wouldnt be surprised in years to come there is a "secret" department in bookies working with police/journos/jon on the street to get information before anyone else, its just a matter of time before we get "insider trading" in the betting world, its why its regulated just like Investment Banks.

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Originally Posted by paul_oshea

Ah anytime i used to hear the term "reliable source" or a "confirmed source" etc, i thought it was made up mickey mouse journalism. Now I know it means they have Data, gathered usually through dirty means but generally its correct.

I wouldnt be surprised in years to come there is a "secret" department in bookies working with police/journos/jon on the street to get information before anyone else, its just a matter of time before we get "insider trading" in the betting world, its why its regulated just like Investment Banks.

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How about it is as reported, the betting shops took precautionary measures after getting inundated by punters placing a flood of bets on MON.
No secret hotline to a FAI source, just good old fashioned bookmaking principles.
Could be an overreaction by the bookies, but they like most others are considering that the FAI might well want to appoint somebody before the friendly. If MON is going to happen, he will happen soon.

Only a matter of time before we get insider trading in the betting world? At what point on your travels did you miss the entrance to the real world?!

Something like this is such a thin market it only takes a few bets to change the odds I reckon.

Yes. They most likely had a larger than expected volume of bets on the next Irish manager so they decided to suspended betting. Odds are up again anyways - O'Neill is very short.

O'Neill 1/9 with McCarthy second favourite at 9/1.

No way would they be offering 9/1 on McCarthy if this wasn't a done deal.

I don't think 1/9 is a done deal, just a red hot tip.
A done deal is 1/20 onwards.

The McCarthy odds are telling though

I think the 9/1 for McCarthy is more telling than the 1/9 for O'Neill though, especially seeing as he was the hot favourite himself a day or two ago.

When I say done deal, obviously I mean more or less certain... but not actually certain.

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Originally Posted by DeLorean

I think the 9/1 for McCarthy is more telling than the 1/9 for O'Neill though, especially seeing as he was the hot favourite himself a day or two ago.

When I say done deal, obviously I mean more or less certain... but not actually certain.

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I would not recommend using that definition when proposing a more permanent status in a relationship with a loved one.

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Originally Posted by geysir

Are any of them claiming that they know for sure?

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You were the one implying they did?

With them, it's pure chance. Or by accident rather than any great design. As in MO'N looks the best candidate, albeit by default.

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Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy

You were the one implying they did?

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Who are they? they being the media reports or the bookmakers?
The answer is no, on both counts.

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With them, it's pure chance. Or by accident rather than any great design. As in MO'N looks the best candidate, albeit by default.

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Who are them? them who wrote the media reports or the bookmakers?
Doesn't make any sense if it's the latter.

Read your earlier post.

Was replying to your point about, er, the FAI?

if all else fails....

http://balls.ie/football/weve-let-sc...irish-manager/

If only...

St Ledger didn't make any of those line-ups. That's football manager and thescore.ie off the doc's Christmas list then.

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Originally Posted by geysir

I would not recommend using that definition when proposing a more permanent status in a relationship with a loved one.

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I'll keep that in mind, whilst knowing deep down my loose definition will apply then more than ever.

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Originally Posted by ifk101

Yes. They most likely had a larger than expected volume of bets on the next Irish manager so they decided to suspended betting. Odds are up again anyways - O'Neill is very short.

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Its also a way of reigniting betting on other candidates.

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Originally Posted by ifk101

O'Neill is very short.

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Heightist, but that's Brian Flynn you mean...

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Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy

Read your earlier post.

Was replying to your point about, er, the FAI?

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In that case, ignore anything I wrote in reply.

Pat Fenlon anyone?

No!!!

No to Nutsy!

Let him wreck Rovers instead!!

Why all the grief towards Fenlon?

O'Neill and keane

An aging Italian would make more sense.
http://thescore.thejournal.ie/opinio...facebook_short
Or even Pat Fenlon. Actually that bit was a lie. Hibs fans tell me he's 'pish'.

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Originally Posted by geysir

Why all the grief towards Fenlon?

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Let's start with his European record...despite one good run, it is extremely underwhelming. Probably the best yardstick by which to judge his suitability for international management.

Also, he'd be devoured by RTE and the general meeja. It would be ugly. Somewhere closer to King than Kerr.

I'd be interested in hearing the case for Fenlon.

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Originally Posted by paul_oshea

O'Neill and keane

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Not sure how id feel if true
Starting to get some life in last cpl of hours

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/republic-of-ireland/10422085/Martin-ONeill-lines-up-Roy-Keane-to-form-dream-Republic-of-Ireland-manager-coach-duo.html

James McClean's dream partnership...
:rolleyes:
http://sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphoto...20060118_n.jpg

F##K ME! O 'Neill and Roy to work together. Could be a match made in heaven or hell.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/roy-...-29719931.html

Poll here...
http://thescore.thejournal.ie/roy-ke...57484-Nov2013/

And the BBC's take.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24770300

O'Neill and Keane wont please everyone but I am buzzing at even the prospect of it

This for real?? I can't see it working... One of them is bound to feel undermined by the other.

There will only be one person doing the undermining. And won't be a man from Doire.

Alan Partridge and David Brent in the same role.

Id rather try something like this than go for a journeyman European coach who will spend the first 2 years getting to know the players, or going back to an ex Manager who was a limited success.

Its a ballsy appointment if it happens and it might not work, but O'Neill is a proud Irishman and a fantastic manager in my opinion and if he wants the job I dont see any other better candidates queuing up for it. Keano could go both ways, if he is as good as he was a captain then it will be brilliant.

One things for certain, the players will at least get it out of their friggin heads that they arent good enough to compete against who ever they are playing

Roy Keane anywhere near Irish management is an absolute timebomb.

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Originally Posted by SkStu

Let's start with his European record...despite one good run, it is extremely underwhelming. Probably the best yardstick by which to judge his suitability for international management.

Also, he'd be devoured by RTE and the general meeja. It would be ugly. Somewhere closer to King than Kerr.

I'd be interested in hearing the case for Fenlon.

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I wasn't thinking of him for the 'big' job, but I thought you were taking the píss out of him as a LOI manager.

He walked out of the team when he was captain....

Keane walked out on his country then club if he was in the army he would have been shot as a deserter and rightly so imo, never liked what I saw of him myself but don't know him, thought he was a good player and a brilliant captain, I would never let him manage any team why would you listen to him spouting on about us against them we're all in this together etc etc

This seems a bizarre appointment if true; hard to immediately grasp what the thinking might be behind it. We can speculate about the psychology of the dressing room for sure, but it's all conjecture and just from a purely technical point of view about what the two men might bring to the set-up, I don't see the logic. Very strange stuff altogether - it feels like it would either be a fantastic success or spectacular failure.

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Originally Posted by paul_oshea

He walked out of the team when he was captain....

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Everyone has their opinion on that and its pointless arguing, no one will change their mind at this stage. He came back as a player after that and as far as Im concerned its ancient history.

The man was one of the greatest players we ever had, he was a leader and brilliant motivator and I cant think of anyone better to try get the best out of the likes of McCarthy and Gibson...... But yeah it could go pearshaped:cool: