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Originally Posted by pineapple stu
If he plays great!
If he plays great, great!
Reports suggesting that Duffy will sign for Fulham on a permanent deal. Part of the reason is Fulham's desire to bring Cedric in on loan from Arsenal.
Why though, hes not getting a kick there. I thought there would be more of a chance they would cancel the loan, but maybe the rules dont allow for that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Predator
No rules would allow for it but they'd then only have three senior CBs and one of them is linked with a move away.
Will be a similar situation as Randolph, Maguire, and Kevin Long. Fulham will sign him on a short term contract till the summer to get around the loan rule.
Isn’t that a premier league rule? Can’t championship clubs have more loans?
Yeah PL clubs can only have two from other English clubs at the one time but a max of four from English clubs in a season. Loans from abroad there's no limit I believe.
Clubs in the EFL can have as many as they want but only five are allowed be named in match day squads. Burnley will have eight if Obafemi is a loan signing.
Made his loan permanent till the summer when he'll be a free agent. Has made a grand total of four league appearances coming on in the 90th minute in each one and one EFL cup game against Crawley back in August.
Will be heading for the Championship next season I'd say. He doesn't have the all round game to be a Premier League centre back but I'd still expect him to be successful at Championship level.
Can see another PL team picking him up as back up cover and that might even be Fulham. Don't really agree with him not having the all round game to be a PL CB cause I doubt for one second Potter would have given him games in one of the top ball playing sides in the PL if he didn't have what's needed for the PL.
Potter moved him on and Fulham don't seem willing to trust him in a PL game either. Maybe there are lower PL teams who could accommodate a Duffy-type player. Everton perhaps?
The financial power of Premier League clubs now means that, if you have any obvious flaws in your game, teams will just pass on you and spend £20m on someone else without a second thought. Looking at the spending stats for Premier League clubs vs the rest of world football in January the disparity is off the charts now. Even La Liga and Serie A are just nowhere near to competing.
There's almost nobody left in the league who will want or need to accommodate a 31 year old centre back who is as uncomfortable on the ball as Duffy is. Everton probably the only ones and that's purely down to Dyche - and they might get relegated anyway.
I'd like to see him go play in Italy, Spain or Germany. He's plenty good enough.
Just on this, I believe that in this transfer window, Chelsea spent more than all top flight German, Spanish, French and Italian clubs combined.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eirambler
18 of the 20 biggest value transfers in January were to English teams. None of the 20 were to Italian, Spanish or German teams. The European Super League is happening by its own accord.
Starts tonight in the FA Cup…
Man City case is getting very interesting now. PL has no natural incentive to prosecute one of its biggest attractions, nor is it an organisation with any great interventionary ethos. Richard Scudamore, ex-CEO of the PL, said on Newsnight after City were first sanctioned by UEFA “it’s hard to say they’ve done anything wrong” - context being they’ve spent money locally but ignoring whether their spending was within established rules - showing just how relaxed the PL was about its financial dominance in Europe.
Saved off the line and assisted third goal
Fulham have Leeds at home in the next round so hopefully gets that game and a couple of others including Latvia before we play France.
It may seem uncouth these days but I'd have Duffy on the bench at least. He can be thrown on up front if we're in need of a goal late in games then.
elatedscum made a good case for him starting recently. I think it was along the lines that while he might make mistakes with distribution, we don't make the defensive mistakes that have crept into our game with him in the side.
It seems to be Collins making those mistakes. The old, less high profile lads like Egan, O'Shea and also lenihan. Seem more solid. But it's Collins who u would fancy being a star in 5 years
Just to add I would play lenihan ahead of Duffy.
I watched the match. I appreciate Sunderland are a Championship team but Duffy looked very comfortable and had moments where his positioning neutralized their attacks. Looked comfortable on the ball and hit a couple of nice long passes including one diagonal ball which created a goalscoring opportunity.
Definitely eases the mind a bit if he does end up starting for us, even if France is on a different planet in terms of attacking firepower.
A mistake in midfield is not as bad as a mistake in a centre back position. We've enough cover in defence to experiment with collins
There’s a comment on the Fulham forum that praises Duffy as an “old-school” defender. But that’s the issue – he is too old-school for the modern game. As much as he is brilliant in the air, getting in blocks, putting his body on the line, the game has moved on and you can’t overlook how uncomfortable he is on the ball and how limiting this is for team flexibility.
There's a line on a Fulham fan website commenting on the game that said: "Even before his second half heroics, Shane looked majestic at the heart of defence - calm, stoical, vigilant."
It seems he played how you might expect an accomplished, 55-cap international who has regularly tussled with the best attackers in the world, to play.
In the last few years, a narrative has set in that Duffy can't or could never play football, that he is lucky if he completes a pass, but it is a myth. He has a mistake in him like any defender, but the truth is that Duffy's distribution (see irishfan86's diagonal ball) and reading of the game have been features of his game since he made his debut for Everton in the Europa League at 17. His out-and-out defensive attributes are indeed his trademark, but that doesn't mean the other side of his game is necessarily bad. He wouldn't have played so many games for Stephen Kenny if that was remotely true, nor would he have excelled when he got back into the Brighton team following the Celtic shambles.
If he gets a run of games for Fulham in the Premier League and plays well, I think he is right back in the conversation to start - and captain - the team.
Its nice words from them and everything, but I'd say Fulham will let him go on a free at the end of the season to be honest. I've seen him pass the ball straight to opposing attackers under minimal pressure, I've seen him give the ball straight to them with his first touch, because it landed about three yards away from him, and then get himself booked trying to slide tackle to get the ball back from his earlier mistake. I've seen him play 50 yard cross field balls that have re-entered the earth's orbit about 15 yards over the touchline. All while playing for Ireland.
It's not like every pass he makes is a disaster or anything, his pass completion rates (one of the most overused stats in football) are probably fine. It's that he's constantly a mistake waiting to happen, and he doesn't seem to even need to be under that much pressure to make the mistake.
Fulham trust him so much that they've given him 4 minutes of Premier League game time all season. That says it all really. I'm sure Kenny will probably have him in the squad for March because, well, Kenny, but he has no business being in our starting team and his remaining days in the squad are limited too I'd say.
Signs a three year contract with Norwich.
3 years is good going. I would been expecting a two year deal somewhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by JR89
Really is.
Though added competition for Omobamidele now, so hopefully it isn't a case of one or the other
Maybe a sign that Omobamidele is going to be sold !Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
I think thats almost definitely the caseQuote:
Originally Posted by seanfhear
What surprised me about the three year deal is that he accepted it. Thought he'd only go for a two year deal which might have left his options open to get a better move.
Grant Hanley likely out for awhile and them needing to use Omobamidele to raise funds if he pushed for a three year deal I'd say they couldn't afford to say no. Don't think they could have gotten a better defender than Duffy for free. Beggers can't be choosers as they say
He'll be Norwich's player of the season next year. This is a great move for them.
If I was a betting man I'd put money on it. Norwich complained about how players looked uninterested at times. How they didn't care. Duffy is going there with a point to prove. To regain his Ireland spot and can see him putting in some big performances for Norwich.Quote:
Originally Posted by John83