Cork City denied a licence; club to be wound up; FORAS to enter First Division

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05/08/2009, 3:16 PM
Mr A

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Originally Posted by John83

They're paid monthly, but are two weeks overdue. Whatever hack journalist who wrote 6 weeks unpaid needs a good beating. That means that �120k is owed, with the same bill coming again in a few weeks.

But, yes, Cork limp on.

I'm aware of the monthly aspect, I was looking at it from the point of view that 2 weeks of the month have passed so that money is already owed.

What it boils down to is that they need to shed as many players on decent wages as quickly as possible and it's not clear whether that's even possible.
05/08/2009, 3:17 PM
DeLorean

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Originally Posted by EalingGreen

Certainly no LOI team, but Cork is not Ireland's 2nd biggest city. According to the 2006 Irish Census, the population figures are:

Cork City = 119,418
Metropolitan Cork = 274,000
County Cork = 481,295

By contrast, the latest population figures from NI are:
Belfast City = 267,374
Greater (or "Metropolitan") Belfast = 645,536.

Yeah I think everybody was aware that Belfast is bigger than Cork but I think in LOI terms it's fair to call it our second biggest City (it is bigger than Derry as far as I know).

Anyway the news is good-
http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2009/0805/corkcity.html
05/08/2009, 3:18 PM
micls

Rumours flying around that he has sold up.
05/08/2009, 3:26 PM
pineapple stu

Better the devil you know?
05/08/2009, 3:27 PM
micls

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Better the devil you know?

Not when it's Coughlan, no.
05/08/2009, 3:30 PM
pineapple stu

Could have said that about Arkaga too. Especially with this Quintas crowd getting mentioned. That's all I'm thinking.

Assume it's not FORAS who're being linked?
05/08/2009, 3:33 PM
micls

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Could have said that about Arkaga too. Especially with this Quintas crowd getting mentioned. That's all I'm thinking.

Ive no doubt with Coughlan in charge we'l be run into the ground sooner or later, so it's worth a shot imo.

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Assume it's not FORAS who're being linked?

No.
05/08/2009, 3:34 PM
Dodge

Personally can't wait to start getting back to slagging the l@ngers now that they've been saved a winding up by revenue
05/08/2009, 3:44 PM
adamd164

Great news. :) Shels and Rovers fans must be gutted.
05/08/2009, 3:55 PM
Fester

Great news... for now......
05/08/2009, 4:07 PM
Cici900

What holds in the future for city? Whens the next tax bill due? Another few weeks and the same thread will be here but there won't be a lifeline because they've pulled all there stops out now. The players can't get by without being paid so he'll have to leave them go. Cork only way out is go to the bare bones of a team and spend a minimum of cash. That way they mightn't deliver on the pitch for a couple of years but in that time they'll have built a good enough base to build a strong team again. Its that or have no club. Unless T.C sells.....
05/08/2009, 4:18 PM
RoversHead

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Originally Posted by adamd164

Great news. :) Shels and Rovers fans must be gutted.

wrong on both counts ,are you and marinobohs related?
05/08/2009, 4:33 PM
John83

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Originally Posted by Dodge

Personally can't wait to start getting back to slagging the l@ngers now that they've been saved a winding up by revenue

Well, someone has to be winding them up.
05/08/2009, 6:26 PM
brianw82

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Originally Posted by eamo1

When its put like that with 200k STILL owed then you'd have to wonder why the plug wasnt pulled last Friday.It's just prolonging the agony.The only way they can possibily get out of that hole is put out a youth team for the rest of the season.How are the Cork players getting by having not been paid for 6 weeks??

Is there any reason why football players can't just be made redundant en masse like employees in any other industry?
05/08/2009, 6:40 PM
Sheridan

They can if the club gets liquidated! Otherwise, their contracts are too lucrative for a football club (as opposed to a massive multinational) to pay off.
05/08/2009, 6:45 PM
GalwayRed

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Originally Posted by brianw82

Is there any reason why football players can't just be made redundant en masse like employees in any other industry?

You cant make somebody redundant unless you can prove you dont need them or anyone else to do the job theyre doing anymore afaik. Ie. if cork city make a midfielder redundant to cut the wage bill and then replace him with a player on amateur terms than thats grounds for unfair dismissal as cork city did actually need a midfielder they were just trying to cut costs. They would have to pay off the midfielders contract in full to release him.
05/08/2009, 6:50 PM
christo

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Originally Posted by brianw82

Is there any reason why football players can't just be made redundant en masse like employees in any other industry?

They'd still owe the overdue wages and probably have to pay a % of their remaining contract though wouldn't they
05/08/2009, 6:56 PM
John83

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Originally Posted by brianw82

Is there any reason why football players can't just be made redundant en masse like employees in any other industry?

Possibly the same one that means an employee may be sold like an asset. Football's relationship with labour law is... difficult.
05/08/2009, 7:07 PM
Hairy Bowsie

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Originally Posted by adamd164

Great news. :) Shels and Rovers fans must be gutted.

Don't flatter yourself. I'm disappointed that cheating isn't being punished but it would be the same no matter what the club.
05/08/2009, 8:52 PM
marinobohs

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Originally Posted by RoversHead

wrong on both counts ,are you and marinobohs related?

Nope. its only in Tallaght that everyone is related (ask your parents) :D

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Originally Posted by GalwayRed

You cant make somebody redundant unless you can prove you dont need them or anyone else to do the job theyre doing anymore afaik. Ie. if cork city make a midfielder redundant to cut the wage bill and then replace him with a player on amateur terms than thats grounds for unfair dismissal as cork city did actually need a midfielder they were just trying to cut costs. They would have to pay off the midfielders contract in full to release him.

Legal definition of redundancy relates to the job so technically a player made redundant could not be replaced (as outlined above),effectively the job must be redundant There would also be legal issues around breach of contract (under contract law not Labour law),

Congrats again to Cork on the latest great escape (no celebrating though, you know how it upsets some people :rolleyes:)

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