One of the better results in LOI history, Fair play Pat's they'll die on their feet in Turkey, but great to have something to play for, and the co efficient!
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One of the better results in LOI history, Fair play Pat's they'll die on their feet in Turkey, but great to have something to play for, and the co efficient!
Pat’s just so suited to Europe. Still in with a chance and they know how to score away from home.
Lol group stages 4m in prize money , the humiliation is hard to deal with. Put down that vinegar lol lol lolQuote:
Originally Posted by RealJohn91
Are there full coefficient points in playoff games?
It's great having that money, but you had it in 2022 too and didn't exactly push home your advantage like you should have. Does your fanbase trust Bradley with the rebuild that you obviously need in the next year or two? Does he even have the stomach for it?Quote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
Ha no, as much as im on foot.ie id not be when at a game, currently Id wear any jersey to any game to get some live football and yup I agree on the atmosphere on tv point and something id have said to barstoolers that they are missing ot on. The atmosphere did lift after St Pats hit the post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Acornvilla
Couple of heart attack moments 2nd half, Anang trying to get an angle to clear and was nearly caught out, the short back pass that Anang swept up but other than that kept things at arms length. Basaksehir I felt were settling for a result to take home after that chance as they sat back more after. Their one big chance near the end, fluffed in to the side netting was they type of LoI chance that id be critical of for not making more of, a ball across the 6yrd box and that was a very good chance wasted. Pats were anxious to get on with things, Basaksehir by contrast went in to game management mode like their keeper irritating me after he dropped a cross and behaving like he'd just done a cruciate. The spat the dummy a bit though there wasnt a nastiness. Body language at FT was St Pats disappointed and Basaksehir job done tinged with relief.
Not wnating to sound like just a SK fan, it is one very good performance, but there was no sense of inferiority from St Pats and they will think they can win away also. Its a contrast with the frustration with Rovers and Derry this year, that they are capable of better but with Rovers especially are all safety first which so often backfires on any side. St Pats looked like a well coached side tonight, contrast with couple of months ago and before the break. Games can run to 100mins these days but SK is still slow to freshen things up with subs. I dont get the thinking at times when players are looking fatigued espeically in times past there was someone of similar quality on the bench to bring on. My thoughts on them being likely in the title mix next season is that there was the basis of a squad already there that could be moulded. For sure there needs to be more depth to the squad but its not a major overhaul, expensive clearout and start with a blank canvas imo, a need to thow a fortune around.
Watching the Turkish coverage was interesting, 3 panelists, big studio, live feed to Tallaght after the game, I wish I knew what the pundits were saying but they seemed to have expected a win, no easy games lines probably being rolled out. I know RTE are in the midst having their expense accounts cut and its a shock to the system, other stations didnt pick up games either and there is the scale between the numbers between Greek and Turkish leagues and LoI, but present the product half as it was by the Turks and it would see growth.....not getting battered helps too!
Just looking at potential conditions to be played in in Istanbul - if St Pats were away tonight it would have been between 25 and 30C and 81% humidity which is the killer. Thats a serious ask for 90+ minutes, they will need to hold on to the ball for good spells and are unlikely to be able to chase and press like tonight, though it wasnt really a full high press. Were Pats hardly away anywhere training during the break?
It was a very good result for them, but it will be 27-30c min at kick off next week, that will be tough, but still 0-0 so they have a chance, albeit would be a major surprise if they won.Quote:
Originally Posted by Acornvilla
SK is at his best in Europe, so who knows, I'd still be surprised if they went through, but they should enjoy tonight, that was decent by them.
Thought we were great tonight. Basaksehir are a serious side compared to our level but you wouldn't have thought it. We started excellently in the first half but the intensity was always going to be difficult to maintain and I feel like they woke up a bit in the second half after probably taking us lightly initially, but still and all there wasn't a point where they really looked like scoring. Can only imagine they'll win the tie next week but a great effort thus far nonetheless.
Fair play to Pats on a credible result and all, but do people need to be reminded that this is the 3rd tier European competition that Kenny has somehow "bested".
As they say, levels.
I’m sure Pats fans would much rather the European Pedigree of the mighty Brasdster right now.
They are indeed levels above the LOI, so it was a very good performance from Pats, and not a backs to the wall effort either. We were the width of a post away from winning. Don’t know why you feel the need to be so snarky (and the inevitable dig at “Kenny”) Still sore from Rovers getting humped ?Quote:
Originally Posted by placid casual
Not snarky at all, just thought it was worth reminding people on here that the level your playing at is below both champions league and even Europa league.
Best of luck in turkey next week you'll need it.
Ah you’re very good. Thanks for the insightful reminder that the conference league is a lower level than the champions league and Europa league. I must keep that one in the bank to discredit any result rovers may pick up in the group stages on the basis of it not being as good a level as those competitions regardless of opposition.Quote:
Originally Posted by placid casual
Pull the other one ffs, by that logic, as a one off result (not talking prize money wise) if Pats had drawn 0-0 with Bosnian side Borac Banja Luka in the Europa league tonight it would’ve been a better result than drawing 0-0 with Chelsea in the conference league
Bang on. I thought Forrester was the best player on the pitch tonight. Leavy did well when he came on too, hopefully Palmer's injury isn’t serious. Great shift out in by everyone, here’s hoping for one more push next week to do the unthinkableQuote:
Originally Posted by Jack B
What does the "level of the competition" have to do with anything? Did IBFK not try as hard because TNS and Lincoln Red Imps happen to be playing in it? They're ranked higher than any team in the EFL Championship bar Leeds, and they're paying their striker €100k+ a week.
Tonight's was up there with the best performances I've from an Irish side in Europe. Desperately unlucky not to secure the win, and it would have been well deserved.
I watched the first half tonight almost in disbelief with how St Pat's were playing compared to my own perception of how the match would go, based on the status of both clubs and watching about an hour of the Turkish club's game last week vs the Georgian team. Fair play. Definitely up there with one of the best LOI performances I've seen. It's a real shame they couldn't put one away and take a lead over to Istanbul.
P.S. I hope we destroy your u19s in Oriel. My 5 year old son was watching the 2nd half with me and recognised the St Pat's crest and I had a nightmare trying to explain to him why I wanted St Pat's to do well tonight but lose miserably on Sunday...
"Coefficients son, that's for another day."
Very impressive by Pats tonight, and another welcome notch on the coefficient bed post.
not so much fun for Rovers in Greece, but hopefully PAOK will take the foot off the pedal for the 2nd leg and Rovers get a draw at home. To again boost the aul' coefficient.
Lol yeah we didn't push it home at all shame we missed out on winning the league in 23 and 24......lols. missing out on winning the champions league last year was disappointing but I think real Madrid had a bit to much for usQuote:
Originally Posted by RealJohn91
the only Irish manager to qualify for 2 group stages as well,as having the most wins in European ties Of any Irish team is…….. a terrible European manager(also only manager to win 4 leagues in a row). Ok real John , send the cv into Tolka or the Brandy and qualify for CL next season so.Quote:
Originally Posted by RealJohn91
ya clown
So I take it you don't trust Bradley seeing as you didn't actually answer that question.Quote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
No pressure then going in to the Conference League for Rovers. Unless Roers get horror draws (there is this new format for Conference also isnt there), if they struggle in games against the lower seeded sides this wont age well.Quote:
Originally Posted by placid casual
He's pretty clearly a terrible European manager. What's his landmark result? Brann? And that was five years ago now. With a couple of dreadful defeats to Estonian and Icelandic teams along the way. Almost never being remotely competitive against even marginally better teams too. Just look at the result Kenny got tonight in Tallaght of all places, not a chance Bradley could've done similar.Quote:
Originally Posted by Knocklyonhoop
Pats U19s, I'm not sure if you're joking or not?Quote:
Originally Posted by holidaysong
After all the moaning Kenny did, they could still play a very competent XI against us with 9 changes. Most of the players that started against us would walk into teams outside the top 4: Kazeem, Leavy, Nolan, Kavanagh, Turner, Keeley. It probably puts the level of under performance at Pats this season into context.
They're pumping serious money in and with the 5 year contract Kenny has received and the backing he got in July, it's obvious they will be a force next year.
Your getting better :). Landmark result 5 years ago???? I thought LAST WEEK was pretty good ....Quote:
Originally Posted by RealJohn91
On the trust question, of course I don't trust Bradley, how could you trust a fella who has only won 4 leagues and a cup in 5 years as well as group stages twice.
Any chance you'd step up, champions league win is minimum expectation though and 5 in a row
Great performance by Pats going to be tough out there but you would have probably took going out there with a draw pre match. at least they are still in with a shout of groups. If they did could we draw each other? Is that allowed?
No, you can’t play clubs from your own country in the group stages in the past or the league stage nowQuote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
Should be noted for those that think Kenny looking for the game on Sunday to be postponed is ‘moaning’ that Istanbul Basaksehir have had their game postponed on the weekend to give them the best chance to get through…
Larne have had the same done. Haven’t looked at any other leagues but they’re just two that I’ve heard of for the ‘no other leagues in Europe would postpone games’ brigade
Same for Galatasaray and the Swiss clubs who don't play over the weekend.
Viktoria Plzen, who play Hearts, have had their weekend match postponed.
I wasn't seeking to discredit the commendable 1st leg draw at home to superior opposition in any way. Pats played well and as mentioned before id imagine they'll be a threat in the league next season.Quote:
Originally Posted by 2 Year Contract
It's the fawning over kenny getting a good 1st round draw after getting a commendable win over 2 legs against 10 men, twice.
The real test will be next week in Turkey and I'm not being snide or snarky when I say best if luck to you - it'll be great to have 2 LOI teams in the Conference league.
A seriously bitter post when there is no need for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by placid casual
..... In the First Division....?Quote:
Originally Posted by Olander
On an unrelated note, would dundalk not be amenable to postponing the upcoming game on Sunday against Pats- I always got the impression there's still a lot of goodwill towards Kenny,no?
I mean, they're also unbeaten in it whereas Rovers were a penalty kick away from being knocked out by a part-time Icelandic side for the second year in a row and have just been absolutely ****ed on by the first half-decent team they've met.Quote:
Originally Posted by placid casual
I think you can pick your fights slightly better than that tbf.
I was exaggerating alright. But their team will surely be weaker on Sunday now based on that result, than it might have been if they'd been tanked 4-0.Quote:
Originally Posted by Olander
In our current predicament, we need to take any extra opportunity to get some points.
There's no place for goodwill in a relegation battle. I've not seen one Dundalk fan suggest that we should agree to postpone.Quote:
Originally Posted by placid casual
A response that only highlights the skewed view of most on here about Rovers "achievements" , citing PAOK as the 1st half decent team Rovers met. A real student would have noted that of the teams Rovers have faced in Europe this year ,ALL of them are still in European competition so perhaps,just perhaps it wasn't just pub teams Rovers have faced.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Unless I'm mistaken Rovers have only played teams who have won their leagues so far.
Not a chance Dundalk would agree. They are in a relegation dogfight, with a chance to play against a probably weakened Pats team. They’ll do what’s best for them, and I don’t really have an issue with that tbh. Ideally we wouldn’t have to play on Sunday, but so be it. I don’t think Kenny is uniquely “whinging” btw. I expect most managers in his position would make the same point.Quote:
Originally Posted by placid casual
Word is the game is going to be called off anyway at some stage today.Quote:
Originally Posted by holidaysong
Them clowns are protesting about migrants in town on Sunday and supposedly the Gardai haven't the numbers to police both events
That's an absolute disgrace if that happens, guarantee I'd there was a GAA match on it wouldn't be cancelled. Typical of the contempt we are held in, although I'll postpone my rant until it happens :)