fixed that for you �� Leave the made up bullsh1t to you.Quote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
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fixed that for you �� Leave the made up bullsh1t to you.Quote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
R u suggesting they aren't planning for promotion and don't want to be the primary tenant
He specifically said Dublin city in his original post and he is right. Tallaght is not within Dublin city borders as MB stated. Neither is UCD but they’d have a stronger claim due to proximity. You’re club is a Dublin county club. And very far south.Quote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
As for your prediction of Shels relegating us and passing it off as “their plan”, it’s laughable from a whole host of perspectives. Its actually funny if you’re not making it up. Your prediction is built on lazy assumptions which require all of the following to happen
1) Bohs don’t improve their squad/results at all
2) Derry get 7 points better
3) Sligo get 7 points better
4) UCD come up already stronger than Bohs
5) Harps/Limerick don’t improve
6) Shels make the 1st Division playoff
And there’s about a half dozen more variables I could have thrown in there but didn’t. Enough interweb wasted already.
Maybe a new manager who plans to have Shels have in the Premier Division in 2020 and won't require a 34/35 year old winger in the Premier Division that seasonQuote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
Conan is a great player and would do a very good job on the First Division next season but he would be short-term signing for Shels or Bohs or Drogheda or whoever, new manager may very well be thinking 2 or 3 years ahead signing any players. He had a very poor disinterested season with Shels in 2012, could have been Alan Mathews-style inflicted, which may go against him making a return
Yeah Derry and Sligo being better next season and ucd being better then limerick is very far fetchedQuote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
Bohs for all the hype also finished a place lower this season than last, they'll have to arrest this downward trajectory to prevent themselves from being First Division bound...
Hallalujeh it's not just me that has noticed. Beating q couple of first division clubs on a cup run and serving nice craft beer doesn't a successful season make, the pr is excellent though for a club going backwards
Point is that it your wet dream scenario would require all of those 6 things happening. It is built on a foundation of us not improving at all which we should and despite the fact that we have consistently performed at a level that exceeds where we should expect to finish. I’d be reasonably hopeful we can turn a few of those draws into wins and a few of those defeats into draws. With a little more continuity in our squad for next season already assured, there’s no reason why we can’t aim to have a better first and second series next season than we did this season.Quote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
As I said, it’s really lazy stuff you’re throwing out man.
My suggestions of possibilities is "lazy" but your suggestions of improvements while others don't is something else...... Its ten team.league pats are going full time Sligo have bucko at the helm Derry can't be much worse......I hope you stay up but I wouldn't be confident
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Originally Posted by Jack B
Derry dropped four places over last season lads. Where does that leave them for 2018? We finished with a point more in 2018 than we did in 2017. What does it all mean?Quote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
It means the off season is to long......what the **** are we going to talk about for the next 4 months :)
I haven’t suggested anything at all related to other teams. I have not speculated at all on how others will or will not improve. I’ve just pointed out that I have faith in ourselves to improve over this season for a multitude of reasons, some of which I’ve touched on others I’ve stayed silent on.Quote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
If I’m right then the likelihood of the other 5 factors also coming true for you gets increasingly more difficult thereby reducing the likelihood of your scenario happening.
It’s not really that controversial.
Luke Byrne leaves Shamrock Rovers.
I would think that the budget at Bohs will increase a little bit more while still falling into the , live within your means type of scenario.
Most of our revenue streams are up I think and should rise slightly again next year.
Still very much a part time model but I think we will be slightly more competitive.
Slow start has killed us last 2 seasons .
Does that leave Rovers short of top left backs now?Quote:
Originally Posted by Shearer
Will Gilchirst get a new contract now?
Can Ethan Boyle convert to left back?
http://www.extratime.ie/articles/218...er-five-years/
If Gilchrist gets a new contract I'll wear a Bohs Marley top to every game next season ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezeikial
edit: I won't
No one in Division 1 is going to have a 2 or 3 year planQuote:
Originally Posted by total hoofball
Heard from a Hoop that he is one of a big clear out of players in Tallaght.The soft loan/Roadstone investor has also called in repayment of that money earlier than planned so presumably cutting the wage bill.Shels could pick up s few of those players?Quote:
Originally Posted by Shearer
Lol lol lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Dalymountrower
So Luke Byrne and others haven't been released?.Quote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
The loan hasnt been repaid?
There's some amount of ****e posted on here but my god that's up there with the worst of itQuote:
Originally Posted by Dalymountrower
Lol.....lol ...lol players are released and new ones signed every year, and the loan isn't due for payment for 7 or 8 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dalymountrower
The thoughts of a strong ucd Derry and pats plus Sligo improving must have you worried if your posting this nonsense.
Gary Shaw gone too
Sam Bone too?Quote:
Originally Posted by Shearer
Surely Rovers will have Sean Kavanagh and Trevor Clarke battle it out for LB nxt season so no point hanging onto Luke Byrne really regardless of injuries
We have yet to hear about the annual approach for Dane Massey among many others of the Dundalk squad that are going to be made the top paid players in the league. I dont get the defensiveness of the possible repayment of the laon though, if it was possbible to repay early, ending a chunk of debt and assuring full supporter pwnership remains well why the scoffing? Even if it did mean cutting some deadwood from the squad to help that happen.
Who is being defensive? It's a ten year interest free loan to allow the club continue to invest in the academy, why would the club pay it back early. I expect the usual 4 or so out mostly the guys who haven't played much. Probably sign for other Dublin clubs as usual. We need a striker id gladly drop 4 or 5 players and put it all into a top striker.
Point is the loan legally can't be called in early, it was specifically set up that way and that's why it was accepted. It's not being defensive to point out obvious bull**** when you see it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
A few weeks ago we were trying to make Duffy the highest paid player in the league, now we're reducing our budget. Make up your mind lads.
Every Rovers fan knew Byrne Shaw and McAlister wouldn't be given new contracts Miele probably wont be either. Why would the club keep players that aren't wanted/needed?
A smashing talented player who rarely reached his potential since signing his last contract.Quote:
Originally Posted by Asterix
Had a few injuries and niggles stopped him getting a run of games. Lots of talent , frustrating guy
I didnt give the Duffy talk any airtime at the time and I mentioned about cutting deadwood from the squad not cutting the player budget. Laughing at a post and calling things bs is defensive in nature even if it is bs and deserves such scorn. If the means exists to pay back the loan early without affecting development at Roadstone and that isnt possible thats a little concerning. What if the year the loan matures happens to be a particularly poor one yet there was ample opppertunity to eliminate that debt during the ten years previous? I wil accept that the chances of that perfect storm happening are slim but it still has an element that the investor is in a win win and that his preffered outcome would be to have half ownership of the club than the loan repayed. That would be a common sense thing where with limited risk on a loan there is the chance of picking up 50% equity in the club and by extension 50% of any monies that the original loan generates via youth player sales in due course.Quote:
Originally Posted by Asterix
I have always thought it remarkable how Rovers manage to keep every Hoops fan fully informed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Asterix
Do you think that Miele will be upset about the doubts around a new contract considered that he still has another year to run on his current one?
It makes sense to clear your debts if you have the money available.Quote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
I assumed that with the cash from the Burke and Bazunu sales you'd be paying back a portion of the loan. Is that not happening at all?
Miele looked brilliant when he first signed for Rovers, like he'd be the next of an increasingly long line of players that find their feet after coming back and quickly play themselves into moving away again. Seems strange that he trailed off quite quickly from there.
Wouldn't if mind if we took a chance on him all the same, can't be any worse than Dean Clarke who I'd like to think at the very least won't be starting for us next season even if he gets another deal. Outside of Markey we don't really have a natural 10 either so there's the possibility he could play his way in there too. I'd rather him over McCabe anyway, who a few Pats fans are debating on whether would be worth taking a punt on or not.
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Originally Posted by Ezeikial
Sorry, you are right. He has another year. Your obsession with Rovers is paying off.
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Originally Posted by Asterix
No need to apologise.
But you are right that Bradley is trying to off-load Miele. He also punted him around in the July window.
Talk of more facilities being built in roadstone, I'd rather the club keep investing there, the long term good is always for the best.
So laughing as something you know is wrong and pointing out just how wrong it is is defensive? As opposed to what? Letting everyone think its true? The loan isn't being paid off in one big chuck it is/will be a gradual process then if in the last year a perfect storm happens and we can't pay the last chuck a millionaire life long fan owns a minority share of the club, hardly a catastrophic thing to happen, not completely ideal but not too bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
Tends to happen when your fan owned and just had the annual meeting a few months ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezeikial
There's plans drawn up for extensions to the building for permanent changing rooms, physio, etc, just a case of getting funding and sorting leases I'd guessQuote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
So they discuss players who are being let go or who they'd like to get rid of at the AGM?Quote:
Originally Posted by RathfarnhamHoop