Saw this on twitter (it's still twitter to me dammit!) earlier, nice of Connolly to do that
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Somewhere like AZ would be good for Parrott alright. He's going to be outside of Excelsior's price range and deserves to be further up the table, but I'd rather that he didn't go to another club where he might get locked out of the first team, which would maybe happen if he went to the likes of PSV or Feyenoord.
AZ could be a very good move for him. Vangelis Pavlidis has been there 3 season's now and in the league he's P37_G18, P25_G12, and P34_G29. AZ finished 5th, 4th, and 4th with Pavlidis as top scorer in each season.
Has a hat-trick inside the first half-hour tonight - 5-1 on aggregate now. That'll nicely help him in the shop window.
Still a final against NAC Breda to come, so they're not safe yet. Though NAC were eighth in the second tier, so you'd fancy Excelsior to be big favourites there.
Idah playing a massive part in a double for Celtic in Scotland and Parrott banging them in in the Eredivisie. About five years on from their initial breakthroughs, and having both been through some lean times in-between, the two of them are starting to come good.
Seems like the game's currently suspended? Flares on the pitch (how familiar...)
Presume it'll get back underway soon and the hattrick will stand!
Edit - It looks like the game was interrupted with 2/3 minutes to the break, so the ref called halftime early with the plan of playing 2/3 minutes extra in the second half
But I don't think the players have come back out yet
It's Den Haag fans causing the trouble, so at worst you'd imagine the score (currently 4-0; 6-1 on aggregate) will be let stand?
Yeah they'll either end the match with the score as it is or maybe bring them back tomorrow to play the second half without fans if that's an option.
Another goal for Parrott tonight in the first leg of the play off, a penalty to make it 3-2 just before half time, but Excelsior had a nightmare. Two red cards, and lost 6-2. Need a miracle in the second half this season
It's a pity Parrott wasn't one of the players sent off. Would have allowed him join up with us sooner.
Crikey - 3-0, so 5-6 on aggregate with 45 to go. Amazing tie. Two for Parrott in the first half. 16 for the season now; 9 in the last 8 games. 6 of those against second-tier opposition, but still. That's a great season's work (so far!) for relegation candidates
Would guess this match will have a reasonably high profile in the Netherlands too, so could be a useful shop window for him looking towards next season.
If Spurs were being linked with a 22 year old from Holland with a goal every 2 games or so their fans would be pretty excited. What's his contract situation at Spurs?
There's the hat-trick
4-0 now
Not to dampen excitement because what he's doing is brilliant but NAC Breda are a second tier side presently and so were Den Haag.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
Still, though, he's in a side that have played themselves into having to compete in this play off and he's had a good record even before the play offs.
He's doing himself a whole pile of good. Interesting summer ahead.
Yeah, Spurs is a very high bar, and I think he'd be better off going elsewhere for now even if this piqued their interest. He's done enough to generate a really good opportunity for himself.
Yeah but it's not just on today's game. This is 2 hattricks for them in playoffs on top of a pretty good goal record for a bad team in league all season... stepping up when he's needed most is something!Quote:
Originally Posted by Olé Olé
It'll be an interesting summer for him, I'd rather he moved on from Spurs personally but I'm just wondering if they'll be interested to see how he goes in preseason before making decision on himQuote:
Originally Posted by John83
4-1 in the end, so they do go down.
Not that that's really relevant for Troy. The links with a better team in the same division (AZ, Twente) sound interesting. But there's surely a lot more positivity than this time last year. I like the way he finds those tap-ins a lot; sign of a good striker. We could do with one of those!
Who's had the better loan, Parrott or Idah? Given the goals against Rangers I'd prob lean Idah, but Parrott has had a good overall season
Parrott was scoring goals for a small fish. I'd value that over scoring goals for a big fish/little pool team.
Though they've both had good loans
Both excellent to be fair to them. Probably notable though that both loans came about after mediocre stints in the English Championship with Norwich and Preston. Arguably they both dropped to League 1-ish level (in terms of much of the opposition they were playing) with the result that they both were able to score more.
So, although he's had a lower profile season, I would argue that Tom Cannon remains ahead of both of them right now. He went for around £8m and I don't know that either Parrott or Idah would fetch that just now. If either or both are sold by their parent clubs this summer it will likely be for less than that. I could see Celtic paying around £5m or so for Idah. Not sure anyone will pay that just yet for Parrott.
Exciting to have the three of them all 23 or under coming through like this together. And Sinclair Armstrong too. Not too mention a 19 year old fella at Brighton that's meant to be quite highly regarded...
Mark O'Mahony?Quote:
Originally Posted by Eirambler
Idah had 7 goals for Norwich this season before his move, Cannon only had 3 all season... so I don't buy that Cannon is ahead of himQuote:
Originally Posted by Eirambler
Cannon's season was heavily disrupted though. On the only metric you can truly compare them - Championship form - Cannon's minutes per goal rate was better last season than Idah's despite his injuries, and of course was miles ahead of him the season before that when Cannon was fully fit.
And Idah has shown he can score goals in the Premiership before he got a season ending injury. I just think you're logic is flawed... but the good news is that the 3 of them look like good players and hopefully they all continue to improveQuote:
Originally Posted by Eirambler
Assuming you mean the English Premiership he has actually only shown he can score goal. :)
Not plural he hasn'tQuote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
Hadn't realised Cannon's minutes per goal ratio was almost the exact same this season as last. Though of course you'd have been hoping for him to kick on given how well he finished his first season.
I assume Parrott is confirmed as missing Tuesday's game?
It’s a good group:
2000 Obafemi (Connolly)
2001 Idah
2002 Parrott, Cannon
2003 Armstrong (Emakhu)
2004 Ferguson (Pearce)
2005 O’Mahony, Fraser
2006: Okosun
2007: Melia
2008: Noonan
It's one more goal than Cannon ever got at that level:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Eirambler
I'm not to start sh1tting on Cannon because he's a player I like, I just disagree with you that he's ahead of Idah right now
Parrott has timed his run of goals perfectly and it should mean he'll be playing at higher level next season. The only thing for sure the pair of hattricks tells us is that he's definitely too good for the Dutch second tier, so we've established his floor. Would love to see him stay in the Netherlands, especially if he could get into a side who are playing in Europe.
Interesting summer ahead for both him and Idah who've both done their reputation no harm in the last 6 months.
Fair enough, we can agree to disagree. I suppose to phrase my argument another way, Idah has shown he can score consistently in the SPL. Parrott has shown that he can do it in League 1 and the Eredivisie. But neither of them have shown they can do it in the Championship, where the average opponent would be consistently stronger than any of those leagues, other than the top couple of teams in each. Cannon is the only one of the three (four if you include Armstrong) that has shown he can score consistently in the Championship. I will give Idah some extra marks for scoring a couple against the Rangers, who are a Championship standard team, but as he has never done it consistently in the Championship and Cannon has, personally I'd still have Cannon ahead of Idah at this point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
Tom Cannon had a goal every 209.75 mins last season. Idah had a goal every 212.5mins this season for Norwich and fans were talking about selling him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eirambler
At the end of his first season in the championship when he was the same age as Cannon he had a goal every 108.3 mins. Think Cannon needs to improve that number before we can say that he's the only one that has scored consistently in the championship.
If it was because all of his goals that season start to finish happened in 11 games apologies. Would still wait to say he's done it more consistently. One swallow doesn't make a summer.
Also I hate puns, but a little disappointed that nobody made a Parrott pun. To score the goals he's scored in this playoff and still get relegated I'd be massively sickened....... I'd be as sick as a parrot.