The eloquence and clarity of thought of that paragraph is something I haven't see from that POS in the 10 or so years I've been on here. Copy and paste job, gan dabht.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
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The eloquence and clarity of thought of that paragraph is something I haven't see from that POS in the 10 or so years I've been on here. Copy and paste job, gan dabht.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
of course it is and you both read the same and then tried to play it off to make yourselves look good.
I can't seem to quote on this thing properly.
I still don't know what you're talking about.
He looks like a promising player, but he really does need to pull his socks up.
A landmark day for the potentially eligible players thread, as Bamford and Garner win the player of the year awards for the Championship and League One respectively.
Who's this Danny Mayor that won the League Two award? We're slacking...Quote:
Originally Posted by DeLorean
Cant wait to see the Twitter Universe go into overdrive when Grealish is seen belting out God save the queen in the cup final like Matty Holland
I had club Wembley compos today, talk amongst the suits is England will be calling.......Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
"I don’t think everything that has happened with Grealish is entirely his fault. I think the FAI have been too eager to cap players in order to stop them playing for other countries and Grealish may well be in demand, although maybe not as in demand as he would have expected at the start of the season.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
I agree with Martin O’Neill’s comments in today’s paper and I think it’s a good sign that he isn’t planning to bring him into a squad before he’s ready. It is good for the other players too. Getting into an Ireland squad has to mean something. It’s no good if it’s just a political game with other associations".
Stephen Hunt
He has been bog standard whenever he has played in the Championship. He's 27 now, so there is marginal room for improvement. Crazy stuff that he would be considered for selection over Eoin Doyle when there are no question marks over his eligibility but hey he's (Garner) English so he must be better right?!Quote:
Originally Posted by Deckydee
Cox, Jutkiewicz, Best & Folan all have substantially better records than Garner at Championship level and they patently aren't good enough for Intl. level. Even Paddy Madden has a better record at League One level and is younger to boot. Give him a bloody chance even. At least he has a bit of time on his side.
David Thompson - Twitter
Hope you're right Dave!
Hard to trust a non-yank who writes 'Mom'.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeLorean
Garner also won goal of the year
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=16&v=hKkMethUf4M
Grealish's dad and Shay Given are on 5 live at some point between 7pm and 8.30pm. The old 'who's he gonna play for?!' is bound to come up.
Grealish's dad is making quite a name for himself for someone who never kicked a ball at any levelQuote:
Originally Posted by SwanVsDalton
Supposedly dodged the question on 5 live re Jack and his allegiance. Is this true?
Missed it myself. Anything of note said?
Not much substance to it, but Sam Wallace of the Independent is saying the FA "will push its Irish counterparts all the way for the services of the dual-nationality Aston Villa midfielder Jack Grealish who will be eligible for the England Under-21s following this summer’s European championships": http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/f...-10190827.html
Roll on one:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footba...hasing-4196817
"Although he is already an Irish U21 international, Grealish is unsure about accepting an offer to play for the Republic’s full side while there is still a possibility of wearing the Three Lions instead"
"MirrorSport understands he politely declined a chance to train with Martin O’Neill’s full Irish squad during this international break"
"Keane - who is also No2 to O'Neill with the Republic - has described him as a “really, really good player” and is keen for him to join the boys in green. But Grealish is prepared to disappoint him by committing to England if they come calling"
From 10th September 2014..
on newstalk earlier as well mentioning that he dodged it. but don't worry he is still ours to lose.
Fully expect him to be in the squad for the England game.
based on what Nigel?and if he isn't what say you then?
http://m.independent.ie/sport/soccer...-31157862.html
Possibly - Hodgson might see a trip to Dublin as a good chance for Jack to impress.Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
Glad someone got it!Quote:
Originally Posted by SwanVsDalton
Apparently sherwood expects grealish to go with England. Kinda sense that myself. Fine if that's what he wants but feel it's a little cheap that he played with us all the way through to u21 level and then fecks off. Of course this could all blow over in a few weeks if he has a quiet end to the season.
I am afraid he'll become another Kevin Gallen in terms of being impelled to choose England because it will increase his value to everybody else. Good luck to him whatever he chooses but no point losing sleep over it.
We have to be Grealishtic here.
Don't think Sherwood was really in the know if you're referring to his comments the other week.Quote:
Originally Posted by elroy
It's not as if this situation has ever been beyond our control though. We've been happy selecting Grealish in full knowledge of his dual eligibility. If we didn't want the circus we have now, we could have given him an ultimatum long ago and taken the option out of the equation. If we're happy enough selecting him under present circumstances however and without any sort of assurance/commitment from him, we can't really complain if he takes advantage of the situation/his rights, of which we're very well aware, and then declares for England.
That's not necessarily to say I think he will; it'd be quite a u-turn after saying he hoped to be back in the green by September just a month ago. I'm not necessarily saying giving him an ultimatum would have been the right way to deal with a young lad either - it'd be pretty hardline - but we shouldn't make out like we're going to be poor hapless victims in this if he does switch when we're happy prolonging the matter ourselves in hope.
There is a sudden change here in the mindset without anything linked to jack himself which was always the barometer and stick used to beat down the naysayers.nothing at all has changed with regard to him being in exile from international duty which was decided upon ages ago. so why the sudden change of belief /opinion on here now?
its clear that he enjoyed playing for Ireland, it always has been, but it's also just as clear from the outset over a year of so ago that the lad is waiting because he doesn't see his future wholly with Ireland and could easily have his head turned by England.
The fact that we gave him the chance at senior and he hasn't taken it, if England offer the same at this stage then I can't see him turning it down.
The only hope I have at this stage is that England don't call him up for senior by September if/when he makes his decision.
Ah stop.Kevin Gallen was never in the same league as grealish. If he continues on as he is now it doesn't matter a jot who he plays for internationally. stop covering yerself now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
One good performance (coupled with, admittedly, bags of potential) and the English hype-machine has been cranked into motion, close to over-heating.
This hysteria has spilled over to Ireland and it's difficult to tell if that's justified. The lad did say a month ago he'd be back with us in September. I'm sure the English FA were aware of his potential prior to the Liverpool game, so is it really a case that they're only now employing a more aggressive approach to getting Grealish to switch? Newspapers are reporting they'll try to bring him into the under-20 squad. Well I think that anyone who followed English football could have told you for a while that Grealish was more than good enough to make this squad: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/England...m#Latest_squad
If all of this has turned Grealish's head then I'm very disappointed. For a lad of his ability and confidence then I'm sure he and his father always knew that a day like Sunday would come- even before he collected that award and stated he looked forward to rejoining the fold in September.
Article in today's Daily Telegraph about the tug-of-war over Grealish http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...d-England.html
I must have missed the board memo...Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
In seriousness, I don't think there's any consensus here on this matter. Posters have varying thoughts on it. I don't know why you think there is some Foot.ie orthodoxy that happens to be the exact opposite of what your own position on whatever the topic might be. Yourself and TOWK (and others who suspect a switch is a near certainty) are members of this forum too.
Regarding Grealish, I don't see anything as having changed. The media explosion contains very little substance. He's told us he hopes to be back wearing the green in September. That was a very clear expression of intent, so I'm willing to put my faith in him.
Before September, they'd have to call him into their senior squad. He isn't re-eligible for their under-21s until then as he's already played competitively for our under-21s this campaign.Quote:
The only hope I have at this stage is that England don't call him up for senior by September if/when he makes his decision.
Excellent Article: http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/s...ne-325159.html
from that article:Quote:
Originally Posted by Deckydee
Giggs never snubbed England for Wales, he never qualified for them in the first place.Quote:
So effective was Grealish’s performance in helping Aston Villa secure an FA Cup final place on May 30 that some commentators in the English media were likening the potential “loss” of the winger to another nation in the same realm as the case of Ryan Giggs snubbing them for Wales 24 years ago.
And even if he did qualify, this notion that they could have got him if only they tried is ridiculously arrogant. Born in Wales to Welsh parents, absolutely nothing to suggest he would even have considered playing for England.
It talks about England possibly hoping to bring him into their under-20 squad. As far as I know, that isn't a competitive FIFA/UEFA-recognised age-level, at least not in Europe anyway, so he'd neither have to request a switch nor would he be tied by playing at that level for England. I'm pretty sure he'd be able to play for us again after.Quote:
Originally Posted by Deckydee
It's not like you to jump in without reading a comment first. I said "in terms of being impelled to choose England because it will increase his value to everybody else." I never compared their quality.Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
Please do try to read Paul.